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Starfire Revo
DUST University
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Posted - 2014.05.16 16:15:00 -
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What Nappia said about damage profiles is spot on, projectile based weapons are at an advantage because of their superior damage profile.
Scrambler rifles are in a pretty good place, their low usage could come from the heat mechanic making them harder to use and their name being really, really dumb. Renaming them to 'Pulse Rifles' might see an increase in usage.
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Starfire Revo
DUST University
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Posted - 2014.05.16 17:40:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:[quote=Starfire Revo]What Nappia said about damage profiles is spot on, projectile based weapons are at an advantage because of their superior damage profile.
Scrambler rifles are in a pretty good place, their low usage could come from the heat mechanic making them harder to use and their name being really, really dumb. Renaming them to 'Pulse Rifles' might see an increase in usage.
Combine that with the fact that it no longer holds a range advantage like it did over the AR and there's little point to using it./quote]
On the range advantage note, I'm looking at the effective ranges now. The AR sits at 65/71.5/78m and the ScR sits at 80/88/96m according to Protofits. So ScRs have roughly 23% more effective range compared to assaults. The only reference to optimal ranges I could find tells a similar story.
The damage profile thing is more to do with CRs being too good with their profile and armour being straight up better than shields right now. I've been using the ScR recently and it tears shield users to shreds, there's just so few people using shields right now that it has issues.
Quote:the name scrambler came from the pistol, it got bonus critical damage for head shots, hence scrambling your brains.
I know that, but the rifle doesn't get the same bonus. The Magsec SMG, the Bolt Pistol and the Rail Rifle function in a similar manner but also have different names, I don't see why the Amarr weapons should follow that same pattern.
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Starfire Revo
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.17 13:52:00 -
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Musta Tornius wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Luther Mandrix wrote:You know what's funny about this thread is that the Laser Rifle is still no good when compared to the next weakest gun of the game.
Its so broken still you guys are not even bringing it up when comparing weapons. It's actually an excellent weapon, I have no clue what's your problem with it. The Laser is stronger than it ever has been, except maybe that bug with the viziam back in chromosome. But overall it's in really good shape atm.
The lasers biggest weakness right now is that people are favouring armour over shields at the moment. I tend to bring it out to fight people who are normally just out of range of other rifles and it works great.
On a different note, do the consumption figures include BPOs? I realized after my earlier posts that the 2 least consumed rifles are also the rifles that have BPO variants.
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Starfire Revo
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.05.17 17:31:00 -
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John Demonsbane wrote:Yeah, like I said earlier, maybe a change to 15/15 damage profile instead of 20/20 would be nice, more for the ScR, but the LR can still put the fear of God into armor tanked suits.
Your point here made me realize something as well. The higher the -x%/+x% go, the worse the weapon will perform on average because a negative % will reduce damage the higher the number goes. I tried doing the math for this, but the higher the positive and negative multipliers go, the more shots it will take to kill someone who has equal shield:armour.
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