no you twit, most people moved because they want to relax on the sofa and use a controller with a driver that works. raises a real question: does anyone know of a good controller which is likely to work flawlessly? (Avoiding keyboard and mouse).

It is not official supported and you have to search for drivers or use 3rd party programs to get it to work and that in itself is not a guaranteed it would work .

Also a ps4 has dedicated hardware specifically designed in the ps4 . Saying a ps4 is a pc is oversimplification . It uses pc-like architecture but it is not a pc. You also forgetting the fact that consoles decrease prices as well.

Yeah. That happened. Get over it.

To be fair, there's no issue with doing this with a PC. Steam Big Picture or SteamOS would make that a viable possibility with a PC. Plus, you could just use a PS3 or XBox 360 controller, I use a DS3 for some of my PC gaming.

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As for that PC build, even though it is theoretical, it costs way more than it should. There's no use for an APU if you bought a graphics card, and you can't use both at the same time. An SSD is an unnecessary luxury, it's nice to have, but it's a horrible idea if you're trying to keep the cost down and if you're planning on using it for more than one game (120GB of storage for an entire PC isn't going to get you anywhere). Don't buy Windows, there are better, "cheaper", ways of going about that. It should have cost the same as the PS4.

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Honestly, I don't see the huge deal solely in the fact that they're "moving" to PC. The way they handled this ordeal was terrible, and people have a right to be pissed about that, and I am as well. If I am satisfied with the way they transfer all of our progress, then I'll probably play Legion.

Yes they could have gone to the PS4, but it is apparent that CCP's experience with Sony was not exactly ideal. Almost in a similar way that our experience with CCP did not turn out to be entirely pleasant. In response, they are moving to PC, and many of us are leaving Dust.

Better low cost builds are out there. You just built an obsolete computer that may or may not run Project Legion.

Build a PC that has:

1.) Equal or greater power than a PS4
2.) <$550USD price tag for the whole package
3.) Bluray Drive
4.) HDMI port
5.) Small size (doesn't need to be tiny like a PS4, but small enough that you can take it places easily and without hassle)
6.) Dualshock 4 price included (+$60) Sixaxis support as well.
7.) Comes with 1 new AAA title(+$45)
8.) A decent mouse keyboard will be required for doing non-gaming activities(+ aprox. $30)
9.) Capture Card.(Share button yo!)
10.) Runs "Legion"

These next two three may be a bit difficult.
11.) Runs PlayStation's Exclusive titles such as Killzone and Gran Turismo, titles that I am a fan of.
12.) Still runs brand new games in 5-7 years without needing to be upgraded.
13.) For an extra $20ish it comes with full part failure coverage for 2 years.

If your magical box meets all of these requirements, I'll get a PC.


I hope now you guys can see why consoles are what some people want.

Build a PC that has:

1.) Equal or greater power than a PS4
2.) <$550USD price tag for the whole package(shipping included)
3.) Bluray Drive
4.) HDMI port
5.) Small size (doesn't need to be tiny like a PS4, but small enough that you can take it places easily and without hassle)
6.) Dualshock 4 price included (+$60) Sixaxis support as well.
7.) Comes with 1 new AAA title(+$45)
8.) A decent mouse keyboard will be required for doing non-gaming activities(+ aprox. $30)
9.) Capture Card.(Share button yo!)
10.) Runs "Legion"

These next two three may be a bit difficult.
11.) Runs PlayStation's Exclusive titles such as Killzone and Gran Turismo, titles that I am a fan of.
12.) Still runs brand new games in 5-7 years without needing to be upgraded.
13.) For an extra $20ish it comes with full part failure coverage for 2 years.

If your magical box meets all of these requirements, I'll get a PC.


I hope now you guys can see why consoles are what some people want.

Build a PC that has:

1.) Equal or greater power than a PS4
2.) <$550USD price tag for the whole package(shipping included)
3.) Bluray Drive
4.) HDMI port
5.) Small size (doesn't need to be tiny like a PS4, but small enough that you can take it places easily and without hassle)
6.) Dualshock 4 price included (+$60) Sixaxis support as well.
7.) Comes with 1 new AAA title(+$45)
8.) A decent mouse keyboard will be required for doing non-gaming activities(+ aprox. $30)
9.) Capture Card.(Share button yo!)
10.) Runs "Legion"

These next two three may be a bit difficult.
11.) Runs PlayStation's Exclusive titles such as Killzone and Gran Turismo, titles that I am a fan of.
12.) Still runs brand new games in 5-7 years without needing to be upgraded.
13.) For an extra $20ish it comes with full part failure coverage for 2 years.

If your magical box meets all of these requirements, I'll get a PC.


I hope now you guys can see why consoles are what some people want.

This is actually a very helpful post from a PC gamer as well. It doesn't make me want to go back to PC gaming but it is appreciated much more than the posts from PC guys that equal "Ha ha ha console peasant" Thanks for that.

I already have a PS4 I prefer exclusive Sony games, the ability to unplug my system and move it anywhere in my house, and knowing any game I purchase will work as intended on the system over the advantages PC offers.

Would be totally doable if it weren't for #2

Or I could just get a PS4 for cheaper than even what I have a a requirement.

Legally, 11 is impossible.
Also, 12 should be extended to " Still runs brand new games with medium graphics settings in 5-7 years without needing to be upgraded."

But then look at all the things you can to besides gaming on a PC, that you can to do with a PS4/XB1. It just isn't fair to compare them like that.

Build a PC that has:

1.) Equal or greater power than a PS4
2.) <$550USD price tag for the whole package(shipping included)
3.) Bluray Drive
4.) HDMI port
5.) Small size (doesn't need to be tiny like a PS4, but small enough that you can take it places easily and without hassle)
6.) Dualshock 4 price included (+$60) Sixaxis support as well.
7.) Comes with 1 new AAA title(+$45)
8.) A decent mouse keyboard will be required for doing non-gaming activities(+ aprox. $30)
9.) Capture Card.(Share button yo!)
10.) Runs "Legion"

These next two three may be a bit difficult.
11.) Runs PlayStation's Exclusive titles such as Killzone and Gran Turismo, titles that I am a fan of.
12.) Still runs brand new games in 5-7 years without needing to be upgraded.
13.) For an extra $20ish it comes with full part failure coverage for 2 years.

If your magical box meets all of these requirements, I'll get a PC.


I hope now you guys can see why consoles are what some people want.

Easy when you forget:

player made content 4 free (mods & maps), Steam offers, the chance to play all genres (like mmo or strategy), liberty of use controllers, mouse/keyboard, occulus rift, be able to do anything and play/use all kinds of extensions (mp4, avi, etc), not need to pay a monthly fee to play content you have already paid with your purchase (online), the chance to update and If you re not a graphic ***** at an amazing good price, the compatibility of most of PC games (not like on consoles where you must wait and pay a new time to get a HD/ stupid update version of your games), its own exclusives (example Star citizen), etc etc....

If your magical PS4 get this I'll get it.

Two different kinds of people. I'm not as interested in what you are and vice versa.

Build a PC that has:

1.) Equal or greater power than a PS4
2.) <$550USD price tag for the whole package(shipping included)
3.) Bluray Drive
4.) HDMI port
5.) Small size (doesn't need to be tiny like a PS4, but small enough that you can take it places easily and without hassle)
6.) Dualshock 4 price included (+$60) Sixaxis support as well.
7.) Comes with 1 new AAA title(+$45)
8.) A decent mouse keyboard will be required for doing non-gaming activities(+ aprox. $30)
9.) Capture Card.(Share button yo!)
10.) Runs "Legion"

These next two three may be a bit difficult.
11.) Runs PlayStation's Exclusive titles such as Killzone and Gran Turismo, titles that I am a fan of.
12.) Still runs brand new games in 5-7 years without needing to be upgraded.
13.) For an extra $20ish it comes with full part failure coverage for 2 years.

If your magical box meets all of these requirements, I'll get a PC.


I hope now you guys can see why consoles are what some people want.

It is true that PC allows upgradability and modding of games, and while modding some games sounds like fun, its not a huge selling point for me. I'm also more interested in not having to upgrade than being able to.
What I am trying to say is that just telling us console players to go get a PC to play Legion is having no effect. I don't want a PC it isn't my thing. I want Legion on PS4.

I don't want a PC because I have to upgrade every 5-7 years complaint..




but I will go out and buy the next generation of whatever console every 5-7 years.. people that is called upgrading.

so stop saying you don't want a PC because you don't want to pay for upgrades.. if you are a real gamer you already own a PC and a PS3 and a xbox360. As well as looking at getting a PS4 on top of that... and you do upgrade the computer every 5-7 years.


no you don't want a PC because you are PS fan boys and think that's all you need..

now stop lying to yourselves and just admit it.


me I have a pc 360 and ps3... and getting a 2nd generation PS4.. why??


because I game a lot and want as many options as possible.

Question time

Say I get a PS4, because I see it as a better alternative to current PCs.
2 years after I get it, the warranty expires and it begins truly lagging behind gaming PCs as far as quality is concerned.
Would it be possible for me to upgrade and jailbreak my PS4 at that point to basically turn it into a PC/PS4 hybrid monster?perhaps even jury rig a bit...

Maybe if you have a degree in electronics, but then what would be the point if no game for the platform would allow you to increase the quality.

Question time

Say I get a PS4, because I see it as a better alternative to current PCs.
2 years after I get it, the warranty expires and it begins truly lagging behind gaming PCs as far as quality is concerned.
Would it be possible for me to upgrade and jailbreak my PS4 at that point to basically turn it into a PC/PS4 hybrid monster?perhaps even jury rig a bit...

I don't think you understand. What I have in mind is to keep the PS4 working as a PS4, but have the option to switch out hardware/hard drive so I could just turn it directly into a PC with the ability to switch back to a PS4 for exclusive titles.