I don't want a PC because I have to upgrade every 5-7 years complaint..




but I will go out and buy the next generation of whatever console every 5-7 years.. people that is called upgrading.

so stop saying you don't want a PC because you don't want to pay for upgrades.. if you are a real gamer you already own a PC and a PS3 and a xbox360. As well as looking at getting a PS4 on top of that... and you do upgrade the computer every 5-7 years.


no you don't want a PC because you are PS fan boys and think that's all you need..

now stop lying to yourselves and just admit it.


me I have a pc 360 and ps3... and getting a 2nd generation PS4.. why??


because I game a lot and want as many options as possible.

#PCmasterrace

Another thing is that the hardware alone isn't really that powerful compared to an average PC. It works well because PS4 games can optimise for the specific hardware, but generic Windows games would not run nearly as well.

Here you go plebs

What most people (and some ego boosted idiot like the guy above) don't understand IT'S NOT ONLY MONEY.

I play FPS since they were born. FPS many of you have only ear about like Doom, Doom2, Quake and Quake 2-3 ETC ETC.

That was only on PC. There is a reason why many people switched over console.

It's Competition. When i get kill i want to know that the guy that kill me was in an equal play field.

2 problems rise with a PC game: the first and MOST important in a FPS are AIMBOT-TRIGBOT-WALLHACKZ, they are a nuisance in every Battlefield/COD etc etc
Now imagine that ****** things in a MMOFPS where very death count.
Cant possibly go well.

The second one is that a consolle is a equal play field. You come with the same controller, the same CPU etc etc.
On consolle you don't have to worry about 1000000 DPI mouse, or MACRO-keybord that can put you at disadvantage even before logging the game.


And there is no way to balance this 2 thing.

The difference being in those games, getting banned on a server doesnt matter. However, itll matter here. Get banned from the server, your character is really dead.

Here you go plebs.

http://i.imgur.com/5RoUDJ8.png

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/171158-can-you-build-a-gaming-pc-better-than-the-ps4-for-400

From the get-go, we have a problem: The APU in the PS4 is unique. It pairs an 8-core Jaguar CPU with, essentially, the Radeon HD 7850. The best AMD APU currently on the market (the Richland A10-6800K) has about one third of the processing power of the PS4GǦs GPU. There are no 8-core Jaguar parts on the market GÇö only the quad-core Kabini A6-5200, which is paired with an even weaker GPU than the A10. Kaveri, when it comes to market in January 2014, will be a closer match GÇö but the PS4 will still have around twice the graphics grunt. In short, weGÇÖre forced to use a CPU and discrete GPU. It just got a lot harder to hit our $400 target.

The other big problem is the 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, which has an utterly insane peak bandwidth of 176 gigabytes per second. There is no way to build a PC with such a configuration. In the PS4, the RAM is used by both the CPU and GPU in a HSA 2.0 configuration, providing a sizable speed boost GÇô an option that isnGÇÖt available to the PC world until Kaveri launches. ItGÇÖs important to note that even if we could slot some GDDR5 RAM into a PC motherboard, it would probably be much more expensive than conventional DDR3.

so we lost all the "PCMASTERRACE" crowd??

don't forget this part too

"The other big problem is the 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, which has an utterly insane peak bandwidth of 176 gigabytes per second. There is no way to build a PC with such a configuration. In the PS4, the RAM is used by both the CPU and GPU in a HSA 2.0 configuration, providing a sizable speed boost GÇô an option that isnGÇÖt available to the PC world until Kaveri launches. ItGÇÖs important to note that even if we could slot some GDDR5 RAM into a PC motherboard, it would probably be much more expensive than conventional DDR3."

and


So, there you have it: It is just about possible to build a PS4-comparable PC for $400. You make a lot of concessions, though: We havenGÇÖt included the price of an operating system, nor a keyboard/mouse/gamepad. The DM-387 case is a lot bigger than the PS4. ThereGÇÖs no optical drive, so youGÇÖre forced to load games via USB or digitally download them via Steam. But everyone has an old copy of Windows XP/7 and a spare Xbox 360 or DualShock gamepad kicking around, right?

If Legion were to use Unreal Engine 4, here are the specs required:



And this is based on: https://www.unrealengine.com/faq

This is a mismash of parts that would "work together" to run Unreal Engine 4:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22254751

This is just to illustrate price (w/ Windows license). There are much better builds out there where the parts work together best. I am by no means an expert, so DO NOT buy this build. Don't go buy a computer now because we don't know what Legion's future will be.

From what I gathered it costs at least $500-600 to build a PC that will run Unreal 4. It costs $399 to buy a PS4.

I know that there are more issues involved with Legion than moving platform. But a number of people have claimed they will not play Legion solely because of the platform change. What I want to emphasize is the PS4 is a computer too! You can build a slim PC with an HDMI port and use a PS3/PS4 controller on it too. You can even use a flight stick for those drop ships. A PC can be just as much of a console as a PS4.

If Legion were to use Unreal Engine 4, here are the specs required:



And this is based on: https://www.unrealengine.com/faq

What are Unreal Engine 4's system requirements?
You will need a powerful setup to get started developing with UE4 right now.

Here's what we recommend:

Desktop PC or Mac
Windows 7 64-bit or Mac OS X 10.9.2 or later
Quad-core Intel or AMD processor, 2.5 GHz or faster
NVIDIA GeForce 470 GTX or AMD Radeon 6870 HD series card or higher
8 GB RAM

don't forget this part too

"The other big problem is the 8GB of GDDR5 RAM, which has an utterly insane peak bandwidth of 176 gigabytes per second. There is no way to build a PC with such a configuration. In the PS4, the RAM is used by both the CPU and GPU in a HSA 2.0 configuration, providing a sizable speed boost GÇô an option that isnGÇÖt available to the PC world until Kaveri launches. ItGÇÖs important to note that even if we could slot some GDDR5 RAM into a PC motherboard, it would probably be much more expensive than conventional DDR3."

and


So, there you have it: It is just about possible to build a PS4-comparable PC for $400. You make a lot of concessions, though: We havenGÇÖt included the price of an operating system, nor a keyboard/mouse/gamepad. The DM-387 case is a lot bigger than the PS4. ThereGÇÖs no optical drive, so youGÇÖre forced to load games via USB or digitally download them via Steam. But everyone has an old copy of Windows XP/7 and a spare Xbox 360 or DualShock gamepad kicking around, right?

Most people who bought consoles bought them because they don't want to think beyond putting square peg into square hole.

It's been like that since the beginning. PCs are far more versatile, of course, but most people don't really like to do much beyond look at the price tag and plug n play.

Having built PC's before, I find your comment slightly ironic as building a PC is much like putting a square peg into a square hole. I always tell people it's like building with Legos. Especially with a quick Google search bringing up hundreds and thousands of builds at different price ranges.

No one is concerned about the game being offered on PC. It's the outright lies and misleading info leading all the way up to Fanfest. For many people, myself included, it's a choice between a mediocre gaming PC or a console. $500 bucks simply provides a better console experience than a PC experience(Steambox may or may not change this). For many of us, CCP just put a $500+ price tag on their game. And that's the bottom end.

TLDR: CCP Lied to their customers and allowed Dust players to travel to Fanfest knowing full well that they had no intention of sharing anything more then a PC concept.

But then look at all the things you can to besides gaming on a PC, that you can to do with a PS4/XB1. It just isn't fair to compare them like that.

You can buy a gaming rig too, http://www.alienware.com/

If you don't mind paying 50% more.

so we lost all the "PCMASTERRACE" crowd??

And what else can you do with a PC?

-do your taxes
-manage your bank account
-surf Wikipedia and TVTropes
-communicate with friends and family
-store important data
-type up reports and essays for college classes
-apply for jobs
-shop for things you can't find at local stores
-plan a vacation
-research things
-learn
-plan a budget
-find your next future ex wife on match.com (they have a special setting to help you find only redheads..... very useful)
-listen to music
-waste time on Twitter, Tumblr, and LOLCats
-p0rn
-turn yourself into a twitching hypochondriac on WebMD
-argue with antivax derpists
-play classic games from long-dead consoles as well as classic PC games (original Fallout series, FTW!)
-post on these forums
-play EVE
-etc, etc....

You can use a PS3 / PS4 controller on a PC.

You can buy a gaming rig too, http://www.alienware.com/

If you don't mind paying 50% more.

If Legion were to use Unreal Engine 4, here are the specs required:



And this is based on: https://www.unrealengine.com/faq

This is a mismash of parts that would "work together" to run Unreal Engine 4:

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=22254751

This is just to illustrate price (w/ Windows license). There are much better builds out there where the parts work together best. I am by no means an expert, so DO NOT buy this build. Don't go buy a computer now because we don't know what Legion's future will be.

From what I gathered it costs at least $500-600 to build a PC that will run Unreal 4. It costs $399 to buy a PS4.

I know that there are more issues involved with Legion than moving platform. But a number of people have claimed they will not play Legion solely because of the platform change. What I want to emphasize is the PS4 is a computer too! You can build a slim PC with an HDMI port and use a PS3/PS4 controller on it too. You can even use a flight stick for those drop ships. A PC can be just as much of a console as a PS4.

reddit.com/r/buildapc

If you're interested in building your own.