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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:15:00 -
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The Gallente scouts are monsters my Caldari scout cant find them the unscanable ones 2 complex damps...... *starts hitting head on wall*
But really thats a bit unfair thats like a heavy with more hp than what damage the game has to offer to us an imortal heavy.
Or in this case an unscanable scout.
and theres also the cloak bonus.
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
988
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:18:00 -
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But it wouldn't be unfair for you to be able to scan everyone no matter how much SP and slots they devote to dampening?
Your game f'ing sucks, but I'll still play it.... damn you!
Henchmen21: Infantry
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castba
Penguin's March
396
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:18:00 -
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Would it be more fair if the cal scout could passively scan everything? |
keno trader
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:20:00 -
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Just shield tank the caldari scout and make yourself light assault. You might find yourself profiting more often than not.
1.8 --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes.
1.8 --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
R 0 N 1 N
1268
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:20:00 -
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So I can either brick tank and be picked up by anything, or damp tank and never be picked up at the sacrifice of HP?
Guess which choice I'll make.
Sidearm and Light Weapon Scout, I use 'em all.
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1mil SP and counting
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J0LLY R0G3R
Dirt Nap Squad.
768
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:23:00 -
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2 complex dams or 2 enhanced while cloaked and i'm sneaking up on u XD
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
226
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:24:00 -
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Amazingly the Gal scout can't stack enough precision mods to see a Cal scout with 2 damps and a cloak so WHAAAAAA that isn't fair, WE should be ABLE to SEE EVERYTHING TOO AND HIDE from you. Gal's are basically blind, (why can't Cal's understand this, this is like the 200th post about this crap from these whiners) We turn a corner and BLAM, there is another scout. You are whining that it's only 1 suit that you have this problem with, when with us, its ALL scouts. |
JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
273
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:25:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:But it wouldn't be unfair for you to be able to scan everyone no matter how much SP and slots they devote to dampening? dude we can only scan so far there in a zone beyond us. At this point I cant even help but dream.
I'm saying we should be able to scan them counter them. When a person complains about scouts we usually say precision enhancers but wats the reason if you can never reach it.
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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keno trader
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:27:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:So I can either brick tank and be picked up by anything, or damp tank and never be picked up at the sacrifice of HP? Guess which choice I'll make. Ewar is fun, but when you want dumb fun....brick tank!
1.8 --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes.
1.8 --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
799
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:28:00 -
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I'll put it this way.
GalScout hunts down (and murders) CalScout. CalScout goes all predator on every other suit.
GalScout gets chewed up by any semi-decent Sent. Sent. Gets beaten up by CalScout and so on
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
226
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:29:00 -
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Because you can see all the others, or the ones who don't run a dampener, christ dude you are spoiled and whiny, why don't we all just run heavies with HMGs, and thats the only thing in the game, would you have anything to say then? Every class has a counter. |
JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
274
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:30:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:Amazingly the Gal scout can't stack enough precision mods to see a Cal scout with 2 damps and a cloak so WHAAAAAA that isn't fair, WE should be ABLE to SEE EVERYTHING TOO AND HIDE from you. Gal's are basically blind, (why can't Cal's understand this, this is like the 200th post about this crap from these whiners) We turn a corner and BLAM, there is another scout. You are whining that it's only 1 suit that you have this problem with, when with us, its ALL scouts. Okay I could understand that
But really man grow up and stop calling us whiners they made forums to make opinions to be listened to
Not for them to be stomped on and mocked by you
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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RuckingFetard
Better Hide R Die
799
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:31:00 -
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keno trader wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:So I can either brick tank and be picked up by anything, or damp tank and never be picked up at the sacrifice of HP? Guess which choice I'll make. Ewar is fun, but when you want dumb fun....brick tank! Yesterday , I got cut off from my teammates underground near A on that New Large gal socket, in my CalScout. The place was swarming with enemies( and I mean 10-14) . Guess which fit enabled me to escape?
Running pure shield tanked Caldari 'cuz me a hippy
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
274
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:32:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:But it wouldn't be unfair for you to be able to scan everyone no matter how much SP and slots they devote to dampening? dude we can only scan so far there in a zone beyond us. At this point I cant even help but dream. I'm saying we should be able to scan them counter them. When a person complains about scouts we usually say precision enhancers but wats the reason if you can never reach it. Because you can see all the others, or the ones who don't run a dampener, christ dude you are spoiled and whiny, why don't we all just run heavies with HMGs, and thats the only thing in the game, would you have anything to say then? Every class has a counter.
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
226
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:32:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:Aszazel wrote:Amazingly the Gal scout can't stack enough precision mods to see a Cal scout with 2 damps and a cloak so WHAAAAAA that isn't fair, WE should be ABLE to SEE EVERYTHING TOO AND HIDE from you. Gal's are basically blind, (why can't Cal's understand this, this is like the 200th post about this crap from these whiners) We turn a corner and BLAM, there is another scout. You are whining that it's only 1 suit that you have this problem with, when with us, its ALL scouts. Okay I could understand that But really man grow up and stop calling us whiners they made forums to make opinions to be listened to Not for them to be stomped on and mocked by you
Sorry I've had enough tonight, do a search, this has been beaten to DEATH, do you want to start a conv about how the Amarr scout is ganked up? Or how the PLC isn't buffed enough? Or how tanks are annoying |
JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
274
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:36:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Aszazel wrote:Amazingly the Gal scout can't stack enough precision mods to see a Cal scout with 2 damps and a cloak so WHAAAAAA that isn't fair, WE should be ABLE to SEE EVERYTHING TOO AND HIDE from you. Gal's are basically blind, (why can't Cal's understand this, this is like the 200th post about this crap from these whiners) We turn a corner and BLAM, there is another scout. You are whining that it's only 1 suit that you have this problem with, when with us, its ALL scouts. Okay I could understand that But really man grow up and stop calling us whiners they made forums to make opinions to be listened to Not for them to be stomped on and mocked by you Sorry I've had enough tonight, do a search, this has been beaten to DEATH, do you want to start a conv about how the Amarr scout is ganked up? Or how the PLC isn't buffed enough? Or how tanks are annoying And thats there opinion if you dont like it post your opinion.
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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keno trader
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
150
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:38:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:keno trader wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:So I can either brick tank and be picked up by anything, or damp tank and never be picked up at the sacrifice of HP? Guess which choice I'll make. Ewar is fun, but when you want dumb fun....brick tank! Yesterday , I got cut off from my teammates underground near A on that New Large gal socket, in my CalScout. The place was swarming with enemies( and I mean 10-14) . Guess which fit enabled me to escape? Yea yea I get your point. But in all seriousness, brick tanking is hilarious fun! Just went 9-0.
Btw, I do run both setups.
1.8 --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes.
1.8 --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
274
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:42:00 -
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keno trader wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:keno trader wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:So I can either brick tank and be picked up by anything, or damp tank and never be picked up at the sacrifice of HP? Guess which choice I'll make. Ewar is fun, but when you want dumb fun....brick tank! Yesterday , I got cut off from my teammates underground near A on that New Large gal socket, in my CalScout. The place was swarming with enemies( and I mean 10-14) . Guess which fit enabled me to escape? Yea yea I get your point. But in all seriousness, brick tanking is hilarious fun! Just went 9-0. Btw, I do run both setups. Every other Ewar loyalist scout hear of this and (Me being one of the but could care less about the tank) and flip there **** lol.
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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Izlare Lenix
Arrogance.
505
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:43:00 -
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If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it.
Gun control is not about guns...it's about control.
The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
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keno trader
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:46:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:keno trader wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:keno trader wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:So I can either brick tank and be picked up by anything, or damp tank and never be picked up at the sacrifice of HP? Guess which choice I'll make. Ewar is fun, but when you want dumb fun....brick tank! Yesterday , I got cut off from my teammates underground near A on that New Large gal socket, in my CalScout. The place was swarming with enemies( and I mean 10-14) . Guess which fit enabled me to escape? Yea yea I get your point. But in all seriousness, brick tanking is hilarious fun! Just went 9-0. Btw, I do run both setups. Every other Ewar loyalist scout hear of this and (Me being one of the but could care less about the tank) and flip there **** lol. Ahahahah
1.8 --- Still getting spawntrapped by boxes.
1.8 --- Smart deployment = letting a 2 year old handle spawns.
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JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
274
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:46:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it. He gets it.
Caldari Loyalist
I speak for the rabbits
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
228
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:51:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it.
I have repeatedly posted that I believe that if CCP reverted all scouts back to pre 1.8 stats 40 profile 45 precision, and did away with the cloak bonus and changed it to all scouts get a 5% damp per level like the min and gal used to have then it would balance EWAR. We would have to stack a damp to get under your precision. Also, it would make the cloak a strictly visual thing rather than needing to equip it for the damp bonus. |
JARREL THOMAS
Dead Man's Game
274
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:53:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it. I have repeatedly posted that I believe that if CCP reverted all scouts back to pre 1.8 stats 40 profile 45 precision, and did away with the cloak bonus and changed it to all scouts get a 5% damp per level like the min and gal used to have then it would balance EWAR. We would have to stack a damp to get under your precision. Also, it would make the cloak a strictly visual thing rather than needing to equip it for the damp bonus. Also very tru
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I speak for the rabbits
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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
2902
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:13:00 -
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You need 3 precision enhancers on a CK.0 scout to see a a GK.0 scout that has 1 profile dampener on. And then he just puts his cloak on and you will never find him.
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Toby Flenderson
research lab
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:21:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:The Gallente scouts are monsters my Caldari scout cant find them the unscanable ones 2 complex damps...... *starts hitting head on wall*
But really thats a bit unfair thats like a heavy with more hp than what damage the game has to offer to us an imortal heavy.
Or in this case an unscanable scout.
and theres also the cloak bonus.
You can still kill the gal scout. That's pretty different than being an "over the top" invincible heavy. |
DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
519
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:23:00 -
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JARREL THOMAS wrote:The Gallente scouts are monsters my Caldari scout cant find them the unscanable ones 2 complex damps...... *starts hitting head on wall*
But really thats a bit unfair thats like a heavy with more hp than what damage the game has to offer to us an imortal heavy.
Or in this case an unscanable scout.
and theres also the cloak bonus. a gallente cannot see you either if you damp correctly
see how that balances out
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Miokai Zahou
The Southern Legion Final Resolution.
201
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:25:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it.
This merc speaks commons sense but people want easy mode gal scout so will fight to the bitter end or the next FOTM. (Except the peeps who always ran scouts before 1.8 your all awesome!)
Noob isn't really a status, it's the online equivalent of a 5-year old calling you a poopy fart head.
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
519
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:28:00 -
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try this also
run two complex precision and 2 complex range on an advanced cal and stick with a squad
the gallente is great at lonewolf infiltrator type gameplay but the cal is great at squad play
with the range and precision you have there is no need for damps as long as your with your squad
your passives will pick them up way out in no mans land and your squad mates will pick them off
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DozersMouse XIII
Ultramarine Corp
521
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:31:00 -
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Miokai Zahou wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it. This merc speaks commons sense but people want easy mode gal scout so will fight to the bitter end or the next FOTM. (Except the peeps who always ran scouts before 1.8 your all awesome!) wrong
the cal can see everthing but the gal and thats how it should be
people forget the gal cannot scan a damped cal even with both highs filled with enhancers
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Take some bacon and I'll put it a pancake
Bacon pancakes thats what it's gonna make
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Arcturis Vanguard
Red Star. EoN.
88
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Posted - 2014.04.26 04:35:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it. I have repeatedly posted that I believe that if CCP reverted all scouts back to pre 1.8 stats 40 profile 45 precision, and did away with the cloak bonus and changed it to all scouts get a 5% damp per level like the min and gal used to have then it would balance EWAR. We would have to stack a damp to get under your precision. Also, it would make the cloak a strictly visual thing rather than needing to equip it for the damp bonus.
Precision enhancer modules need to be the same percentage as dampening modules with the current base states of scout suit via 1.8. With this 5% difference it amplifies the gap between calscout and calscout between ewar evasion. I agree that cloaks shouldn't have a dampening bonus because an individual already has the visual advantage of being able to be lost in the heat of battle when used in appropriate times.
The intended purpose of the calscout is to seek and destroy dampened targets. The galscout should be able the evade the calscout only if they running full dampening modules while the calscout is running full precision modules. What allows the gal to beat cal is the 5db difference in base stats.
As it stands the galente scout outclasses the caldari because they can still tank while being king of ewar. |
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