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Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 226	Posted - 2014.04.26 03:24:00 - [1] - Quote Amazingly the Gal scout can't stack enough precision mods to see a Cal scout with 2 damps and a cloak so WHAAAAAA that isn't fair, WE should be ABLE to SEE EVERYTHING TOO AND HIDE from you. Gal's are basically blind, (why can't Cal's understand this, this is like the 200th post about this crap from these whiners) We turn a corner and BLAM, there is another scout. You are whining that it's only 1 suit that you have this problem with, when with us, its ALL scouts.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 226	Posted - 2014.04.26 03:29:00 - [2] - Quote Because you can see all the others, or the ones who don't run a dampener, christ dude you are spoiled and whiny, why don't we all just run heavies with HMGs, and thats the only thing in the game, would you have anything to say then? Every class has a counter.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 226	Posted - 2014.04.26 03:32:00 - [3] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: Aszazel wrote: Amazingly the Gal scout can't stack enough precision mods to see a Cal scout with 2 damps and a cloak so WHAAAAAA that isn't fair, WE should be ABLE to SEE EVERYTHING TOO AND HIDE from you. Gal's are basically blind, (why can't Cal's understand this, this is like the 200th post about this crap from these whiners) We turn a corner and BLAM, there is another scout. You are whining that it's only 1 suit that you have this problem with, when with us, its ALL scouts. Okay I could understand that But really man grow up and stop calling us whiners they made forums to make opinions to be listened to Not for them to be stomped on and mocked by you Sorry I've had enough tonight, do a search, this has been beaten to DEATH, do you want to start a conv about how the Amarr scout is ganked up? Or how the PLC isn't buffed enough? Or how tanks are annoying
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 228	Posted - 2014.04.26 03:51:00 - [4] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak. A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies. A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it. I have repeatedly posted that I believe that if CCP reverted all scouts back to pre 1.8 stats 40 profile 45 precision, and did away with the cloak bonus and changed it to all scouts get a 5% damp per level like the min and gal used to have then it would balance EWAR. We would have to stack a damp to get under your precision. Also, it would make the cloak a strictly visual thing rather than needing to equip it for the damp bonus.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 232	Posted - 2014.04.27 02:18:00 - [5] - Quote JARREL THOMAS wrote: castba wrote: Would it be more fair if the cal scout could passively scan everything? If the gal scout can evenly counter it. 4 precision enhancers = 4 damps That is ridiculous, sure you COULD, but whats the point? They made it so Gal's could use a cloak and one dampener and USE THE REST of the SLOTS for BEING A SCOUT. Cal's use one precision and SEE 99% OF ALL SUITS IN THE GAME, use your OTHER THREE for BEING A SCOUT. This whole revolving conv about trying to beat a gal, and you should need this and that, for what, you want to see them ALL if you wear 4 precision if the Gal isn't using 4 damps? Who wants to play the game where you have to use ALL OF YOUR SLOTS for EWAR, ITS ONE SUIT if you die, then those tactics are known and over, and countered. Move on, use a heavy, play the game, get on with life.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 232	Posted - 2014.04.27 02:22:00 - [6] - Quote If at the end of going slot for slot, the Gal will STILL get below the CAL, why don't you quit bitching about the HOW MANY modules it would require, this whole topic is about defeating the one suit you aren't meant to defeat. Accept it and you will find that you are extremely powerful against the other 99%, ALSO, its not like the Gal doesn't have its own weaknesses.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 244	Posted - 2014.04.29 12:48:00 - [7] - Quote I cannot believe this conversation is still going on, I understand what the OP and all the supporters are saying, they want EWAR more balanced where if they put a precision mod on, they can see a Gal unless the Gal puts on a dampener. The reason I am getting pissed off is because this is the way it CURRENTLY WORKS for EVERY SCOUT other THAN the GAL. You are the ONLY suit that can see other scouts so easily because YOUR BONUS IS TO PRECISION, but OUR bonus is to DAMPENING. SO NO, it doesn't work the same for us. We are unscannable, why don't you stop trying to make a gimped fit that can see one suit and be happy that 95% of the Gal don't put a single damp on anyways and be happy that you CAN scan them (cause I don't think it's FU@KING FAIR that ONE suit can put 4 precision mods and 2 dampeners and SEE AND HIDE FROM EVERY OTHER SUIT IN THE GAME). Look, maybe if your crutch BK42 Combat Rifle didn't slow me down as much as a HMG and stunlock me I would care about your arguments. But I run an advanced suit with a 10.77 sprint. I picked Gal for the slot layout and the damp bonus, not to run around like a turtle with sh!tloads of armor plates and dampeners on. My point is, there are many things to ***** about in this game, but you Cal's keep coming back to this EWAR imbalance between precision and dampening when there are so many bigger problems right now. Your argument that you should be able to see an unscannable suit is invalid, that's what AN UNSCANNABLE SUIT MEANS. I suppose you whiners were the guys stacking 4 complex damage mods pre 1.8 like a douche too. Anything to kill people that don't have 40mil SP and drive away any possible new players. THE PLAYERS ARE THE ONES RUINING THIS GAME, NOT CCP.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 245	Posted - 2014.04.29 13:10:00 - [8] - Quote Ok, let me put it to you this way, pre 1.8 scouts profile/precision was 40/45, the Gal AND the Min scout got a 25% bonus to dampening (the MIN is the ONE getting SCREWED in this bitchfest). 40 * 25 dampening * lvl 5 dampening = 26 db. IF scouts HAD a cloak it would have been another 25%, add that PLUS ONE dampener to the Gal suit and you had a 14 db signature. So you could hide from the most focused scanner in the game (the only thing that had a chance of scanning you) with a cloak and a damp OR two damps. IT DIDN'T TAKE FOUR FU@KING DAMPS to do your job as a scout. Just because there is a new suit that provides a WAY BETTER PASSIVE WAY of scanning people than an active scanner telling you someone is looking for you; doesn't mean it should take the Gal MORE Damps to get under the radar. The radar and precision that Cal's have shouldn't be greater than what was available pre 1.8. And pre 1.8 it took a maximum of 2 damps to hide from ANYTHING. Game. Set. Match.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 249	Posted - 2014.04.29 16:21:00 - [9] - Quote DozersMouse XIII wrote: ok then let my gal scout dampen everyone in my squad to whatever db I dampen to. Hahahaha, I ******* LOVE YOU. <----- YEA this too.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 250	Posted - 2014.04.29 16:52:00 - [10] - Quote I just posted this, but Gal's were unscannable with only 2 damp prior to 1.8, just cause Cal's are out now, doesn't mean they should need to stack a dozen damps to become unscannable again. Cal's get to share their passive scans, making them MORE powerful than a focused duvolle scanner PERMANENTLY. I have 322 eHP on my Gal, but I can outrun a HMG, apparently though a BK42 combat rifle with a firing while cloaked Cal can stunlock me to death before I even know what's going on. See right there, I mentioned 3 more messed up things that need a look at more than this tired post. let my Gal dampen everything around us then.

Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 250	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:00:00 - [11] - Quote D legendary hero wrote: minmatar scouts... thats all i got to say. dnt complain That dangerous talk there, Cal whiners don't like perspective......... it's alright, there will be another post along shortly to start this whole whinefest all over again.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 250	Posted - 2014.04.29 17:58:00 - [12] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: I run a caldari scout, and it's pretty great. It needs a counter though, and that counter is the gallente Scout, just like the counter to the gallente Scout is the gallente logi. Until that Scout wises up and equips a measly two Dampners, rendering him UNSCANNABLE BY NY MEANS. OP OP OP. Nerf it CCP, I believe in you. Sigh, the Gal was unscannable with 2 complex dampeners BEFORE 1.8. Your whine is invalid.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 251	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:15:00 - [13] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: Dexter307 wrote: Medical Crash wrote: Dauth Jenkins wrote: I run a caldari scout, and it's pretty great. It needs a counter though, and that counter is the gallente Scout, just like the counter to the gallente Scout is the gallente logi. Until that Scout wises up and equips a measly two Dampners, rendering him UNSCANNABLE BY NY MEANS. OP OP OP. Nerf it CCP, I believe in you. So your saying there should be something that can scan everything? That would be balanced Just because you can't scan them at all times dosen't mean their OP. Learn 2 eyes You can remain unscannable, but must be at A HIGH cost. At proto ALL Low slots must me fitted with Complex Dampners, and you are not undetectable until you use your cloak. This would only work if cloak duration times were lowered as well. So this way you CAN be scanned, but not 24/7. You would have "waves of opportunity" to roam scan free. L3arn to balance. You are ****** and clearly don't WANT to read any of the 6 pages of posts I wrote about this. Why? WHY? make it come at an extreme cost? cause YOU want it that way. That's what the Gallente DO MAN, they hide, thats why the CAL DO, they scan. YOU BASICALLY want a suit that can see everything and hide from everyone and can share ALL that permanently scanning information with your squad, do you realize how insanely overpowered that is? It's not like I can throw on 4 dampeners and damp my entire squad. CCP IN THIER WISDOM said, hey, 2 will do the job, now use your other slot TO SCOUT. TO HACK, TO RUN FAST, TO HAVE LOT's O STAMINA. Medical Crash wrote:** L3arn to balance. BALANCE REALLY???? FINE, you can see us with 4 precisions and 2 ARMOR PLATES, if we can dampen with FOUR DAMPENERS AND 2 ARMOR SHIELDS? WHAT's THAT? Armor gives THREE TIMES THE AMOUNT THAT SHIELDS DO? SO YOU WILL HAVE AN EHP ADVANTAGE OVER US TOO? AWESOME.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 252	Posted - 2014.04.29 18:37:00 - [14] - Quote Soooo, cool I ran the numbers so we can appease the Cal whiners. Gal's can run 4 complex dampeners, 2 complex shields, hide from everyone, see NO other scouts in the game or mediums with a dampener on and have 223 shield + 162 armor = 395 eHP Cal's can 4 complex precision, 2 complex armor plates, see ALL other scouts, hide from all other scouts but another Cal or one running 2 complex precisions and have 235 shield + 373 armor = 608 eHP So, you want 33% extra health, share your prema vision with everyone, be able to see all scouts, and hide from almost everyone. Can this please be the last post in this thread? Stop asking CCP to give you a bigger crutch, its pretty fracking big as it is.
Aszazel R 0 N 1 N 253	Posted - 2014.04.29 19:22:00 - [15] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: Henchmen21 wrote: But it wouldn't be unfair for you to be able to scan everyone no matter how much SP and slots they devote to dampening? I thought that the math works out to even if Caldari spent all slots on scanning and with all skills V, the Gallente scout still wins out invisibility. What is the response now that the Caldari spent all his sp/fitting on scanning and still comes up short? That's what they are saying, that it's fine that Gallente remain unscannable, but they want Gallente to ONLY be unscannable to a Caldari that has 4 complex precision i.e if the Gal was only running 3, then a Cal with 4 would pick them up. It's stupid, this whole thread is that it doesn't take us ENOUGH damps to become unscannable, (only 2 with a cloak). When that was the same number of damps it took us to become unscannable prior 1.8 to active scanners. Basically, even though they SAY there are fine with Gal not being scannable, they want to BE ABLE TO SCAN GAL's that ARENT devoting their entire FIT to damps, its dumb, they want to dump down the entire EWAR, EVERY SINGLE SLOT needs to be devoted to ONE job. They can't be happy that a Cal with 1 complex precision and 3 shields can see every single scout WITH a cloak on that isn't running at least 1 complex dampener. It's such a whine fest. I use a codebreaker + cardio + kin kats + dampener = I am SOO much BETTER of a SSSCCCCOOOOUUTTTTTT than someone stacking 4 precision mods and running with a group to give them a perma scan of the battlefield. Go back to a playing a Logi, you clearly have on idea what SCOUTS DO.

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