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JARREL THOMAS
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:15:00 -
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The Gallente scouts are monsters my Caldari scout cant find them the unscanable ones 2 complex damps...... *starts hitting head on wall*
But really thats a bit unfair thats like a heavy with more hp than what damage the game has to offer to us an imortal heavy.
Or in this case an unscanable scout.
and theres also the cloak bonus.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:25:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:But it wouldn't be unfair for you to be able to scan everyone no matter how much SP and slots they devote to dampening? dude we can only scan so far there in a zone beyond us. At this point I cant even help but dream.
I'm saying we should be able to scan them counter them. When a person complains about scouts we usually say precision enhancers but wats the reason if you can never reach it.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:30:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:Amazingly the Gal scout can't stack enough precision mods to see a Cal scout with 2 damps and a cloak so WHAAAAAA that isn't fair, WE should be ABLE to SEE EVERYTHING TOO AND HIDE from you. Gal's are basically blind, (why can't Cal's understand this, this is like the 200th post about this crap from these whiners) We turn a corner and BLAM, there is another scout. You are whining that it's only 1 suit that you have this problem with, when with us, its ALL scouts. Okay I could understand that
But really man grow up and stop calling us whiners they made forums to make opinions to be listened to
Not for them to be stomped on and mocked by you
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:32:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Henchmen21 wrote:But it wouldn't be unfair for you to be able to scan everyone no matter how much SP and slots they devote to dampening? dude we can only scan so far there in a zone beyond us. At this point I cant even help but dream. I'm saying we should be able to scan them counter them. When a person complains about scouts we usually say precision enhancers but wats the reason if you can never reach it. Because you can see all the others, or the ones who don't run a dampener, christ dude you are spoiled and whiny, why don't we all just run heavies with HMGs, and thats the only thing in the game, would you have anything to say then? Every class has a counter.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:36:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:Aszazel wrote:Amazingly the Gal scout can't stack enough precision mods to see a Cal scout with 2 damps and a cloak so WHAAAAAA that isn't fair, WE should be ABLE to SEE EVERYTHING TOO AND HIDE from you. Gal's are basically blind, (why can't Cal's understand this, this is like the 200th post about this crap from these whiners) We turn a corner and BLAM, there is another scout. You are whining that it's only 1 suit that you have this problem with, when with us, its ALL scouts. Okay I could understand that But really man grow up and stop calling us whiners they made forums to make opinions to be listened to Not for them to be stomped on and mocked by you Sorry I've had enough tonight, do a search, this has been beaten to DEATH, do you want to start a conv about how the Amarr scout is ganked up? Or how the PLC isn't buffed enough? Or how tanks are annoying And thats there opinion if you dont like it post your opinion.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:42:00 -
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keno trader wrote:RuckingFetard wrote:keno trader wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:So I can either brick tank and be picked up by anything, or damp tank and never be picked up at the sacrifice of HP? Guess which choice I'll make. Ewar is fun, but when you want dumb fun....brick tank! Yesterday , I got cut off from my teammates underground near A on that New Large gal socket, in my CalScout. The place was swarming with enemies( and I mean 10-14) . Guess which fit enabled me to escape? Yea yea I get your point. But in all seriousness, brick tanking is hilarious fun! Just went 9-0. Btw, I do run both setups. Every other Ewar loyalist scout hear of this and (Me being one of the but could care less about the tank) and flip there **** lol.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:46:00 -
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Izlare Lenix wrote:If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it. He gets it.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 03:53:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it. I have repeatedly posted that I believe that if CCP reverted all scouts back to pre 1.8 stats 40 profile 45 precision, and did away with the cloak bonus and changed it to all scouts get a 5% damp per level like the min and gal used to have then it would balance EWAR. We would have to stack a damp to get under your precision. Also, it would make the cloak a strictly visual thing rather than needing to equip it for the damp bonus. Also very tru
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Posted - 2014.04.26 18:54:00 -
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castba wrote:Would it be more fair if the cal scout could passively scan everything? If the gal scout can evenly counter it.
4 precision enhancers = 4 damps
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:00:00 -
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Toby Flenderson wrote:JARREL THOMAS wrote:The Gallente scouts are monsters my Caldari scout cant find them the unscanable ones 2 complex damps...... *starts hitting head on wall*
But really thats a bit unfair thats like a heavy with more hp than what damage the game has to offer to us an imortal heavy.
Or in this case an unscanable scout.
and theres also the cloak bonus. You can still kill the gal scout. That's pretty different than being an "over the top" invincible heavy. I wasn't saying he was imortal I was saying he's to good like a blaster tank destroying a MCC= to good.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:05:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:Miokai Zahou wrote:Izlare Lenix wrote:If a cal scout sacrifices all four high slots with precision enhancers he still can not detect a gal scout with 2 com damps or one com damp and a cloak.
A gal scout should have to use three damps or two damps plus a cloak to hide from a cal scout using four precision enhancers. A gal scout only has to use one low slot and one equipment to hide from everything while cloaked. That is where the imbalance lies.
A gal should be able to hide from a 4 precision cal scout but it should take two damps and a cloak to do it. This merc speaks commons sense but people want easy mode gal scout so will fight to the bitter end or the next FOTM. (Except the peeps who always ran scouts before 1.8 your all awesome!) wrong the cal can see everthing but the gal and thats how it should be people forget the gal cannot scan a damped cal even with both highs filled with enhancers Exactly why the damps should be evened out to the precis.
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:09:00 -
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RuckingFetard wrote:axis alpha wrote:And for the record I can see 95% of gal scouts without cloaks. If you can't see them on your radar you ain't running good enough or enough precision enhancers and it's your own damn fault That's 'Cruz either they don't have skills in wear , or are brick tanked Dude I run all my highs with precision enhancers
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Posted - 2014.04.26 19:28:00 -
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No they should be equal we gave our reason for why they should be equal through out the thread.
So give yours why its fair that they should be unequal.
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JARREL THOMAS
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Posted - 2014.04.29 01:25:00 -
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DozersMouse XIII wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:DozersMouse XIII wrote:you ******* idiots dont get it
cal scout with dual damps can only be scanned passively by another cal scout
EVERY other scout in the game cannot passively scan a dual damped cal scout
how is it balanced to make the cal scout scan every scout and other suit in the game passively?
and not be scanned passively by any other then the cal? That's fine, as that's their role. I know its okay these guys want the cal scout to passively scan gal scouts (and I don't understand why) they dont get the fact that a cal scout cannot be scanned by a gal, minmatar, or amarr scout passively basically they are trying to unbalance balance lol If its equal to damps then if your not tanking and replace some highs with precision enhancers than it wont matter because by your logic your saying damps are only nerfed on gals.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 02:13:00 -
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Rifter7 wrote:you're comparing an indestructible suit to a suit that won't get picked up by ghetto wall hacks? that when you see looks like your lcd's on it's way out?
how about why cant my gal suit have batvision at 70m? i want everything, why cant i have it? That comparison was saying its to good at something and that the fact that cal scouts have to fit out there entire highs to scan them and they just use 1-2+cloak = unscanable ven by us. it should be equal
2 damps = 2 precision enhancers.
Anything else in need of explaining.
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Posted - 2014.04.29 20:51:00 -
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Flyingconejo wrote:Complaining about not knowing where the enemy is all the time. What is wrong about using your eyes? Now, if the suit is overpowered, balance the suit. If the cloak is overpowered, balance the cloak. But complaining about the stealth specialist not being detected is ridiculous. I would prefer a game without scanners or even passive scanning, over a game where people is 360-¬ scanning all the time, passive or active. I would prefer a game where no one could be scanned over a game where everyone could be scanned. Because the enemy not appearing all the time on the map is obviously cheating. EDIT: Just eliminate the 25% bonus to dampening from the cloak, or at least give it stacking penalties, and it should be ok. +1
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Posted - 2014.04.29 21:14:00 -
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My thread has lived to long simple solution take away cloak 25% bonus. And if the damps and precision enhancers are uneven even them. And also something not even to the other but stomping it easily but barley trying with only using 2 slots isnt a counter but a stomp.
And if you guys fit your precision enhancers you guys should be able to scan cals aswell if this is imported.
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