And people wonder why I support teiricide.

Why?

Artificial segregation of players and gear might help level the playing field in each little pond you split the game into. But if you want a dynamic, organic system of warfare wherein choices about what to bring to the fight are seriously made based on loss and gain potential then tiericide, gear restrictions and other mechanisms won't help


These approaches could make each game mode you apply them to more 'balanced' within that smaller segregated portion of Dust. But you give up that open sandbox nature that CCP has promoted.

IWS, I will admit that I my opinion of how to balance the sandbox has evolved over the years but recently I see potential for an open sandbox with the primary restriction being Isk scarcity.

If CCP wants to keep player options unrestricted then they must keep isk scarce and valuable.

Alternatively they can create little walls throughout our playpen and tell us where and with what toys we can play.

I rather not make the proto stomp issue bigger than it really is by resorting to higher pay.

What you should be demanding is cheaper fits on the lower end.

I rather not make the proto stomp issue bigger than it really is by resorting to higher pay.

What you should be demanding is cheaper fits on the lower end.

I rather the game be more about roles over bling.

Current System
Copper = bling
Silver = moar bling
Gold = much bling
Platinum = mostest bling

Purposed System
Rock vs Paper vs Scissors

I rather the game be more about roles over bling.

You're missing the point.

I rather not make the proto stomp issue bigger than it really is by resorting to higher pay.

What you should be demanding is cheaper fits on the lower end.

I rather not make the proto stomp issue bigger than it really is by resorting to higher pay.

What you should be demanding is cheaper fits on the lower end.

You are joking right?

Someone on here posted that iin like 10 days or so DNS made 30 bil isk.... 30 billion. That is 520,833 proto suits for doing nothing except bluing up. Yet you think higher pub payouts would be a problem.....

You do know protostomping existed well before PC existed right?

So the current system where a section of the playerbase has unlimited cash while the rest slowly go broke or are forced to run crap gear is better? Yes I understand that more people in proto is bad for new players, but lets be honest, there are very few new players.

Now how many newer players (mid Uprising to current) are going to stick with the game long term when they show stubbornness to play through this junk game long enough, getting stomped on by vets, they finally get the SP for proto suits and weapons.....and then they can't even afford to use them.

Pub payouts are too low, the only thing to play for in this game is SP for better and different gear and guns. If you can't even afford to use the stuff you played so long for then this game really has no point at all. Increase pub payouts or introduce other ways for the majority of the playerbase to make ISK.

Increasing isk wont increase stomping, it will help people use proto against them and not get Super-pissed-off from losing one.

Really?

I dont' see it fixing the problem just exacerbating it further.

I'd pull out my proto to combat proto if I didnt die once and go negative
Proto has a small increase if effectiveness for alot more price, not worth it
And lol proto doesn't stomp, ive stomped in std gear with my squad.

You're in the wrong game universe then.

Bling is required because destruction of bling is griefing, as is the use of bling to crush those without bling.

That has always been the first and most prevalent conflict driver of EVE, and it is the number one tear bringer of Dust. Conflict drivers are necessary, tear creation is necessary, and a steep barrier to entry is necessary. Even when it bars the majority of players. If you remove those things then the game becomes a different property altogether, and it no longer works as part of New Eden culture.


If anything at all needs to happen, there needs to be proper stat tracking and immediate feedback as far as ISK/AUR destruction goes. Griefing being the number 1 motivator for the game universe, when you can't measure just how much you're griefing someone the formula does not function as well as it does in EVE.

You do know protostomping existed well before PC existed right?

Thank you for defeating the OP's argument.

Really?

I dont' see it fixing the problem just exacerbating it further.

What you should be demanding is cheaper fits on the lower end.

I rather not make the proto stomp issue bigger than it really is by resorting to higher pay.

What you should be demanding is cheaper fits on the lower end.

I rather not make the proto stomp issue bigger than it really is by resorting to higher pay.

What you should be demanding is cheaper fits on the lower end.

Making things cheaper don't fix the issue, it's enough of a spam fest lag game now and you want to make it even more disposable.

NO !

INCREASE COST, make better payouts. be rewarded for less deaths not visa versa.

I rather the game be more about roles over bling.

FROM: DUST 514: WAR AND PROFIT

ISK is the primary currency in the EVE Universe and a necessity for fighting wars. You will earn ISK from each battle you fight. The size of the reward depends on your contribution and the cost of the battle. Those who contribute more are rewarded handsomely, but all mercs are guaranteed a solid income.

A portion of the reward pool for each battle depends on the value of items destroyed in the battle. If the battle saw countless vehicles and expensive prototype gear destroyed, everyone is in for bigger rewards. ISK rewards are calculated as follows for each participant:

Base rewards: Every mercenary receives basic compensation for each battle they fight. The size of the reward depends on the time you spent fighting, so joining a battle late will net you lower earnings. Value of objects destroyed in battle has no bearing on this part of the reward.

Team rewards: The total rewards calculated from the value destroyed are split between the participating teams, with the winning team earning a larger share. Then, each participant earns a cut of the total rewards that their team received based on the time they spent in the battle. If youGÇÖre late to the party, youGÇÖll earn a smaller cut.

Individual rewards: Finally, every participant receives a reward based on their individual contribution on the battlefield. Mercs earn war points based on their actions in the course of each battle, and the more war points you score, the higher your cut of the total payout.

Having a solid income is necessary, as you will be using the ISK you earn to buy upgrades, and to resupply any gear you lose during combat. Everything you take into battle in DUST 514 can get destroyed. Luckily, most items are in ready supply should you have the cash.