If you remove the bonus to damp then you ruin all the balance within scouts. A scout needs that bonus to remain hidden from cal scout scans. ...

Obviously nobody here runs a Minmatar Scout.

NO NO NO NO NO to number 1. I can barely fit my suit the way it is, and I have my passives MAXED.

Other scouts can fit whatever the hell they want, but I'm starved for PG already.

LOL

No. Let's increase that gap between the Gallente scout and every other scout some more shall we?

Cloak activates, shields go to 0.

Cloak de-activates, shields regenerate at normal rate after normal delay.

Needs a cool down, no mater how long it was in use. And some kind of detection when you are hitting them. I say it should drop when you take damage period because you shield is doing something. He'll even predators suit shimmered when he took damage.

there is nothing wrong with shotugun cloak combo, nothing wrong with the cloak either, the shotgun was and is horribly broken even before cloaks so all i hear is whinning, nerf nerf nerf

invest sp and isk into scanning skills and modules u WILL see them

You know what? F it, just take the cloak. I don't need it as a scout to curb stomp people, flanking people is plenty for me.

Do I like the cloak? Sure, I die from snipers less. This is the only real benefit I, as a life long scout, have gained. Oh, and I make it up ladders a little more often.

You guys are friggen crazy.

SG is OP huh? You mean a short range weapon excels at short range? At least your pretty little AR has a chance to kill a SG User up close, albeit a small one. How much chance does a SG User have at killing an AR User from range? That's easy, 0%, none.

Let's see, cloaks are OP huh? Don't worry, just wait until the racial variants come out and you will see they are not. Or how about, cloaks aren't OP, it's just your ability of perception is UP, buff perception radius. Wait, I got it, see Heavies are supposed to stay guarding objectives and destroy vehicles, Assault is supposed to run in packs and equip scanners. See you just aren't playing your class right. No wait, I was wrong, it was the fact you came into contact with a really good cloak user, you can't judge all cloak users because you probably came up against one of the elite ones. No wait, you used the wrong tactics, you aren't supposed to run TOWARD SG users, but back away from. I understand that since everyone was forced to pick up an AR/SCR to be competitive the last few months you probably just forgot what tactics to use against SG's.

Funny how everyone cries about the Scouts now that they don't hug the bottom of the boards. I've been back to playing since 1.8 came out and for some reason don't see this trend of Scouts at the top of leaderboards each match, which for about 7 months before 1.8 was dominated by AR Assault Cals and Logi Assaults. Instead I see a mix of heavies, tank users, scouts, true logis, even Assaults.

I ask you this, why all the QQ about Scouts and Cloaks? I have seen other classes use cloaks and no one is complaining about that. They use them the same way after all. You want shields to drop to zero when cloaked? Why, does it save you the one bullet it takes to drop my shields? lol gtfo. As the crippled Scouts heard soo many times, HTFU and Adapt or Die!

I'd love to see some changes/fixes to cloaks right now, but I think the bads are too happy that they can actually make kills with shotguns now.

All this does is allow you to turn around and see the person who kills you, since the vast majority of problem scouts are the ones that you can see, who also happen to have like 500+ ehp and take so long to kill that you don't stand a chance unless the shotgun scout has a poor shot.

Use your eyes and learn how to play, and don't constantly put the blame on statistics and mechanics... If you whine so much then you suck at gameplay. You can detect 80 % of the scouts just by using your eyes and watching out.. seriously. There are these things called tactics and modules too btw.

You're right. Armor goes to 0 as well.

The amount of stupid in this thread is appalling...


You know how I know Scouts and cloaks are broken?

Lets begin with the fact that 90% of PC A-TEAMS are composed of Scouts with cloaks.

Cloak activates, shields go to 0.

Cloak de-activates, shields regenerate at normal rate after normal delay.

If they could think for themselves, they would easily counter cloaked scouts with HMG-wielding amarr sentinels.

leave my cloak CRUTCH alone WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

@ Onesimus
This is terrible idea. It would put Min and Cal Scout at significant disadvantage, while simultaneously encouraging brick tanking over biotics and eWar among Gal and Amarr.

+1 just get rid of the damn thing before they nerf us again.

The amount of stupid in this thread is appalling...


You know how I know Scouts and cloaks are broken?

Lets begin with the fact that 90% of PC A-TEAMS are composed of Scouts with cloaks.

Does it make sense to totally change you suit just to try and see 1 person (class) on radar? (a good cloaker can avoid all detection)

The only thing I think needs fixing is that when a cloaked person receives weapons fire, the shimmer needs to become more obvious for a slightly longer amount of time, in the neighborhood of high shimmer for .75 seconds after last weapons fire. A proto Flux grenade should totally deplete all cloaks.

1. Change Racial bonus to 5-10% reduction of CPG/PG for cloaks, I can still fit PRO EVERYTHING on the suit since a STD cloak is enough to go on a rampage. If not this then lower duration/recharge.
2. If I shoot someone cloaked, THE CLOAK IS GONE. A 5 sec delay starts and after that the equipment slowly recharges.
3. Lower Shotgun damage to Chromosome build stats (33-35-37?), it's TOO EASY to kill other dropsuits thanks to cloaks (heavies are free kills, not even a slight struggle).