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ReGnYuM
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 05:05:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:The amount of stupid in this thread is appalling...
You know how I know Scouts and cloaks are broken?
Lets begin with the fact that 90% of PC A-TEAMS are composed of Scouts with cloaks. Correlation does not imply causation. Maybe they'd be running heavies if the first dev post 10 minutes after 1.8 dropped hadn't said 'heavy nerf' Maybe they'd be running assaults if they weren't so meh Maybe they'd be running logi's. Maybe they're just having fun with scouts and cloaks because they might as well have some fun now before it all gets nerfed to **** again cos of major QQ whilst holding on to the rest of their refunded SP and waiting for the next patch so they can go back to the assault/ar514 they know and love so well.
General Discussion...
Shakes head and just walks away
The Pathway to Hell is paved with good intentions
Total Molden Heath Domination Imminent: 90.31% Complete
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.04 05:15:00 -
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Master Smurf wrote:Minnie Scouts still have big fitting issues
Just putting that out there
So true.
"One does not simply" look for a scout, it looks for you.
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ratamaq doc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.04 05:41:00 -
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Dexter307 wrote:ratamaq doc wrote:[quote=Dexter307]
And lay off the "use your eyes" crap. I dampened last build and know far to well how easy it is to flank someone who you can clearly see on Radar that can't see you. Only, when I did it, I had to seriously gimp my tank. Scouts do not. I have Gal Scout proto and can now build a faster, damper, higher eHP, with higher tier weapons missing only one equipment slot from the flanking Logi fits I used last build for less ISK. Oh and I can be invisible to the naked eye, which with the resolution of this game as bad as it is, works pretty well. I wasn't even going to try the cloak until CCP gave us 25 for free. Do you guys realize that with the bonus that thing uses less resources than a K17 Nanohive? If your trying to passive scan with medium frames your doing it wrong. Scouts are supposed to be difficult to scan. The whole point of scouts is flanking/stealth/other sneaky things. Scouts are best at picking off people one at a time so if you stay in a group scouts cant get you. Also scouts have lower HP than any other suit so if you see them you can take them down easy.
You obviously did read or understand this part well. I gladly gave up 90 to 220 HP for radar invisibility, your 50 to 70 hit points lower base more than covers this.
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KingBabar
The Rainbow Effect
Negative-Feedback
2120
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Posted - 2014.04.04 06:22:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:Toby Flenderson wrote:[quote=Maximus Stryker] If you want to nullify an entire fitting, skills and all , you should have to do more than slap on a basic scanner. If you don't want to work as hard, get a suit that specializes in he task like the scout or logi.
Scouts should ultimately be completely invisible if they max out the fitting for dampening, unless being passively scanned by a fellow scout. People were all complaining that no one used the scout suit like a radar beacon and now that heir role role is solidified, people are unhappy that they need a scout suit to see other scouts. Scouts need a precision enhancer just to see other undamped, uncloaked scouts. I think a lot of the QQ will be solved if cloaks didn't give the -25% damp that it does now. If you want a plate or kin cat in that low slot, accept that it will be easier to be scanned. If you want to continue to be unscannable (even from other scouts), accept that you'll have to sacrifice a low slot (or two).
This.
And losing the ability to get of a shotty round before being uncloaked and we should be good.
FU and FU Dust community, you're mostly a bunch of moronic carebear crybabies. Get good.
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
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Posted - 2014.04.04 06:52:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:The amount of stupid in this thread is appalling...
You know how I know Scouts and cloaks are broken?
Lets begin with the fact that 90% of PC A-TEAMS are composed of Scouts with cloaks. Correlation does not imply causation. Maybe they'd be running heavies if the first dev post 10 minutes after 1.8 dropped hadn't said 'heavy nerf' Maybe they'd be running assaults if they weren't so meh Maybe they'd be running logi's. Maybe they're just having fun with scouts and cloaks because they might as well have some fun now before it all gets nerfed to **** again cos of major QQ whilst holding on to the rest of their refunded SP and waiting for the next patch so they can go back to the assault/ar514 they know and love so well. General Discussion... Shakes head and just walks away
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.04 07:46:00 -
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Quil Evrything wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:
Even with the cloak it is not that hard to see scouts and while they are cloaked you get roughly 1 sec of free damage before the scout can shoot back.
not true. I was going head to head with a cloaked scout. While I was taking my time lining up a good shot against the "cant shoot back" cloaked scout, he shot and killed me with SG while staying invisible the whole time. They need to fix that. (and this was after the perma-cloak-after-hack bug was patched)
The scout stays partly cloaked while the uncloak animation happens this is roughly 1 second or half a second after the weapon switch.
If you encounter a scout that can run cloaked while holding a weapon it's a (new) bug. I have heard rumor about that as well. So yes CCP need to removes all bugs related to the cloak. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
1545
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Posted - 2014.04.04 08:02:00 -
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Korvin Lomont wrote:Quil Evrything wrote:Korvin Lomont wrote:
Even with the cloak it is not that hard to see scouts and while they are cloaked you get roughly 1 sec of free damage before the scout can shoot back.
not true. I was going head to head with a cloaked scout. While I was taking my time lining up a good shot against the "cant shoot back" cloaked scout, he shot and killed me with SG while staying invisible the whole time. They need to fix that. (and this was after the perma-cloak-after-hack bug was patched) The scout stays partly cloaked while the uncloak animation happens this is roughly 1 second or half a second after the weapon switch. If you encounter a scout that can run cloaked while holding a weapon it's a (new) bug. I have heard rumor about that as well. So yes CCP need to removes all bugs related to the cloak.
there are three cloak bugs that let you shoot while staying cloaked all the time
no I am not going to post them
yes its broken
just going to chill in the forums to read the QQ threads from folks abusing the glitches after the nerf hammer hits.
Hey CCP get a PS4 client
Planetside 2 in June on PS4
Dust Deserters Alliance
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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.04.04 13:12:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:I'd love to see some changes/fixes to cloaks right now, but I think the bads are too happy that they can actually make kills with shotguns now. Whatsamatter? Did someone shotgun your tanked Cal boundless CR cloaked proto fotm scout?
That's adorable. Looks like one of the bads got offended.
FYI, I'm a Proto Assault and Logi. I have not allocated a single skill point into light frames or cloaks.
I understand that you might not understand the concept of not being skilled into Scout or Heavy, but try to keep up.
I have no problem being shotgunned and rest assured that I have enough ISK from PC farmville to indefinitely use prototype gear if I feel like it.
However as it stands I believe the cloak needs adjusting. I am not alone in this and plenty of reasonable and constructive suggestions have been mentioned in this thread.
But don't worry bro, I'm sure if you just cloak up and wait someone will eventually walk past, if you're lucky you might just be able to shotgun them in the back and then afterwards maybe crawl back to whatever hole you walked out of and get back to masturbating in shame.
Also your post is sort of self-defeating. I mentioned I'd like cloaks to be fixed and you call me a fotm cloaker? GG WP.
The Scrambler Rifle is dead, long live the Scrambler Rifle!
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Alldin Kan
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
1041
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Posted - 2014.04.04 14:12:00 -
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Scout Registry wrote:@ Cotsy
To keep things in perspective:
* Alldin sported the official loadout of Nyain San for an entire year.
* Alldin defended his "Slayer Logi" AR-514 Advantage at every opportunity.
* Alldin's EZ Mode is no more, and now he wants to talk to us about balance.
Are people not seeing the double-standard here?
Scouts want balance, not EZ Mode.
What do you think Alldin wants?
PS: Just in case it affects the algebra of the point you were trying to make, I'm at 38M SP.
The last time I played as a Logi was at Chromosome, AR wasn't even my primary...
Uprising 1.8 - Invisible War
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Tek Hound
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.04 17:04:00 -
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Happy Violentime wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Happy Violentime wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:The amount of stupid in this thread is appalling...
You know how I know Scouts and cloaks are broken?
Lets begin with the fact that 90% of PC A-TEAMS are composed of Scouts with cloaks. Correlation does not imply causation. Maybe they'd be running heavies if the first dev post 10 minutes after 1.8 dropped hadn't said 'heavy nerf' Maybe they'd be running assaults if they weren't so meh Maybe they'd be running logi's. Maybe they're just having fun with scouts and cloaks because they might as well have some fun now before it all gets nerfed to **** again cos of major QQ whilst holding on to the rest of their refunded SP and waiting for the next patch so they can go back to the assault/ar514 they know and love so well. General Discussion... Shakes head and just walks away Yep, that's right, cos you got no comeback fool.
Well lets see 90%,how did you calculate this?Then it's broken because people use it .Sorry but its effective because the community has no battlefield awareness. If I was to fight superman you better believe I'll bring kryptonite.Does this make kryptonite broken? No its just his weakness that he has was around.Your lack of awareness, tactics and willingness to adapt makes you the fool. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
Endless Hatred
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.04.04 21:50:00 -
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Cotsy8 wrote:Alldin Kan wrote:1. Change Racial bonus to 5-10% reduction of CPG/PG for cloaks, I can still fit PRO EVERYTHING on the suit since a STD cloak is enough to go on a rampage. If not this then lower duration/recharge.
2. If I shoot someone cloaked, THE CLOAK IS GONE. A 5 sec delay starts and after that the equipment slowly recharges.
3. Lower Shotgun damage to Chromosome build stats (33-35-37?), it's TOO EASY to kill other dropsuits thanks to cloaks (heavies are free kills, not even a slight struggle).
In all honesty you are a top 3-5 player in the game. You opinion should carry weight, but
I've seen him play, he just goes carebear and doesn't do **** unless the rest of his squad is guarding his ass.
I'm from the weird side of the internet
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