DUST Search - negative 1,000,000+ sp

Vespasian Andendare wrote:

Xander Mercy wrote:

Vespasian Andendare wrote:

No, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. If you wanted to skill into proto Amarr scout, then you did, no problem there. Then, you used the remaining sp on things you wanted as well. Where's the problem? If anything, it's that you got your stuff 1,000,000 SP before you should have. Your story of "I thought I had extra so I spent it"

exactly i thought i had extra so i spent it not "oh boy ccp ****** up now let me take advantage." the way i see it im a victim of a glitch in the system its like if i put $20 in a atm later bought a $40 headset cause when i checked my account it said i had $40 so i think oh i guess i had more in my account then i thought but really the atm counted the 20 two times. so the bank put my account to -20 dollars because their atm glitched. but id rather just return the headset and have the $20

Yes, but you spent the sp on things you wanted. So, there's no issue. If now you're saying you didn't want an Amarr proto suit (because it's not half price or whatever), why the hell did you spend sp into it in the first place? Either you got exactly what you wanted, and spent sp for, or suddenly you didn't want it all along because it's not half price. Either way, there's no issue. If you invested sp because its what you wanted, you have what you wanted early. And if invested because you were trying to get it for half price--a scam of the system of sorts--then you're getting exactly what was coming to you.

And btw, if your bank ATM messes up and gives you an extra $20, guess what--the bank is going to take out that additional $20 from your account when they discover the error.

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Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 348	Posted - 2014.03.27 17:58:00 - [1] - Quote so this is just messed up i would have rather had my sp refunded and the multiplier fixed. seeing negative 1 million sp is just making me not want to play. i'm going to send in a ticket to see if ccp will fix this but untill then i won't be playing much cause whats the point i can't work towards anything for about a month which i will then just be at 0 sp. I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7681	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:00:00 - [2] - Quote As long as you're being nice in the context of your ticket, CCP might be able to help you. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
Sana Rayya WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men. 1199	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:00:00 - [3] - Quote Well if you capped out you could clear that negative SP in 2 weeks or so, plus remember if you do the event over the next two weeks, that's an additional 750k SP. And wasn't this because the Amarr scout multiplier was 4x instead of 8x or something? So you went proto Amarr scout? Can you still use the suits and get the bonus? If so that's a pretty nice deal - you get access to the suit and bonuses early. Unless ofc you just wanted to skill it up and abuse it while the multiplier was low, and had no real intention to keep the suit ;)
Paran Tadec The Hetairoi 2079	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:01:00 - [4] - Quote Lol Bittervet Proficiency V thanks logibro!
neausea 1987 R 0 N 1 N 68	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:05:00 - [5] - Quote ha haaaaaaaaaaaa suck it amarr suuucccck iiitttttttttttttttt (Gò»°Gûí°n+ëGò»n+¦ Gö+GöüGö+ watches a scout activate cloak and laughes, i can still see you dummy.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 5319	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:06:00 - [6] - Quote neausea 1987 wrote: ha haaaaaaaaaaaa suck it amarr suuucccck iiitttttttttttttttt UP HIGH! Edit: Oh geez sorry Xander... Sinboto - The True Blood Minja Forum Warrior level 5 STB-Infantry (Demolition)
Yagihige Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 668	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:07:00 - [7] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: so this is just messed up i would have rather had my sp refunded and the multiplier fixed. seeing negative 1 million sp is just making me not want to play. i'm going to send in a ticket to see if ccp will fix this but untill then i won't be playing much cause whats the point i can't work towards anything for about a month which i will then just be at 0 sp. Well, did you or did you not want to skill up the scout skills? Because if you did, you already have them unlocked a month before you'd have the SP for them and you should actually be thankful this is CCP's solution. And if you didn't, you were just trying to take advantage of something you knew was a glitch and was bound to be fixed. em ta kool t'nod
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11831	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:08:00 - [8] - Quote I'm sure someone predicted that someone would end up with negative SP. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. Top Men. 342	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:09:00 - [9] - Quote Thats why you don't skill into stuff u know is bugged GG scrub "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Vell0cet SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1270	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:13:00 - [10] - Quote Yagihige wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: so this is just messed up i would have rather had my sp refunded and the multiplier fixed. seeing negative 1 million sp is just making me not want to play. i'm going to send in a ticket to see if ccp will fix this but untill then i won't be playing much cause whats the point i can't work towards anything for about a month which i will then just be at 0 sp. Well, did you or did you not want to skill up the scout skills? Because if you did, you already have them unlocked a month before you'd have the SP for them and you should actually be thankful this is CCP's solution. And if you didn't, you were just trying to take advantage of something you knew was a glitch and was bound to be fixed. People seem to see the glass as 1% empty instead of 99% full. shrug Best PvE idea ever!

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11833	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:16:00 - [11] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: Yagihige wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: so this is just messed up i would have rather had my sp refunded and the multiplier fixed. seeing negative 1 million sp is just making me not want to play. i'm going to send in a ticket to see if ccp will fix this but untill then i won't be playing much cause whats the point i can't work towards anything for about a month which i will then just be at 0 sp. Well, did you or did you not want to skill up the scout skills? Because if you did, you already have them unlocked a month before you'd have the SP for them and you should actually be thankful this is CCP's solution. And if you didn't, you were just trying to take advantage of something you knew was a glitch and was bound to be fixed. People seem to see the glass as 1% empty instead of 99% full. shrug Some people prefer to see the glass as full of air ~~and pathogens~~ rather than empty. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 348	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:21:00 - [12] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Thats why you don't skill into stuff u know is bugged GG scrub clearing i didn't know it was bugged or i would have waited i don't abuse broken stuff. i had enough sp to go proto off the bat without the glitch but when i saw i had extra sp i figured i had more sp saved then i thought. it wasn't till one of my corpmate told me about the multiplier bug that i found out but it was to late by then. plus i don't even use the proto scout cause i don't have proto scout mods so it would be a waste. I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 711	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:26:00 - [13] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Thats why you don't skill into stuff u know is bugged GG scrub clearing i didn't know it was bugged or i would have waited i don't abuse broken stuff. i had enough sp to go proto off the bat without the glitch but when i saw i had extra sp i figured i had more sp saved then i thought. it wasn't till one of my corpmate told me about the multiplier bug that i found out but it was to late by then. plus i don't even use the proto scout cause i don't have proto scout mods so it would be a waste. No, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. If you wanted to skill into proto Amarr scout, then you did, no problem there. Then, you used the remaining sp on things you wanted as well. Where's the problem? If anything, it's that you got your stuff 1,000,000 SP before you should have. Your story of "I thought I had extra so I spent it" doesn't make any sense; it sounds more likely that you were trying to get your proto scout suit for half price, and CCP said "no." But admittedly, from your story above, you spent your sp into everything you wanted. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 348	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:26:00 - [14] - Quote Vell0cet wrote: People seem to see the glass as 1% empty instead of 99% full. shrug OP: think of it as CCP giving you the skill on layaway for 50% down and 0% interest for as long as it takes to pay back. If that was a car in real life, you'd have a hell-of-a-deal. i'd rather just not have have the proto scout since i don't use it i just didn't want to skill into it later. I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
noobsniper the 2nd OLDSPICE. Top Men. 343	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:29:00 - [15] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Vell0cet wrote: People seem to see the glass as 1% empty instead of 99% full. shrug OP: think of it as CCP giving you the skill on layaway for 50% down and 0% interest for as long as it takes to pay back. If that was a car in real life, you'd have a hell-of-a-deal. i'd rather just not have have the proto scout since i don't use it i just didn't want to skill into it later. If you don't use it then why skill into it yet again your own freaking fault op is bad and should feel bad "things are made of stuff"-Bill Nye MAG vet raven ftw Pre 1.8 scout don't throw me in with that rift raft
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2123	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:32:00 - [16] - Quote You can now use a Proto suit which you couldn't use normally. What are you complaining about? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 1387	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:38:00 - [17] - Quote Don't forget that you're gonna get the full 75% cloak fitting reduction when you went proto with the Amarr scouts. Even if you're never going to be using proto, you're going to have a heck of an easier time fitting cloaks on your suits. Sure, you might not be able to skill into any other skills for a few weeks, but I consider that a reasonable drawback compared to what you're gaining. So what's the problem here? Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Mar. 22nd
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 349	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:43:00 - [18] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: No, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. If you wanted to skill into proto Amarr scout, then you did, no problem there. Then, you used the remaining sp on things you wanted as well. Where's the problem? If anything, it's that you got your stuff 1,000,000 SP before you should have. Your story of "I thought I had extra so I spent it" exactly i thought i had extra so i spent it not "oh boy ccp ****** up now let me take advantage." the way i see it im a victim of a glitch in the system its like if i put $20 in a atm later bought a $40 headset cause when i checked my account it said i had $40 so i think oh i guess i had more in my account then i thought but really the atm counted the 20 two times. so the bank put my account to -20 dollars because their atm glitched. but id rather just return the headset and have the $20 I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 349	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:47:00 - [19] - Quote noobsniper the 2nd wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Vell0cet wrote: People seem to see the glass as 1% empty instead of 99% full. shrug OP: think of it as CCP giving you the skill on layaway for 50% down and 0% interest for as long as it takes to pay back. If that was a car in real life, you'd have a hell-of-a-deal. i'd rather just not have have the proto scout since i don't use it i just didn't want to skill into it later. If you don't use it then why skill into it yet again your own freaking fault op is bad and should feel bad so i wouldn't have to skill into it later plus you still get the bonus but its not worth being so deep into negative sp id rather just stay at advance I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 349	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:48:00 - [20] - Quote Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: You can now use a Proto suit which you couldn't use normally. What are you complaining about? i still would have proto scout just not the advance radar mods I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style

Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 724	Posted - 2014.03.27 18:56:00 - [21] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: No, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. If you wanted to skill into proto Amarr scout, then you did, no problem there. Then, you used the remaining sp on things you wanted as well. Where's the problem? If anything, it's that you got your stuff 1,000,000 SP before you should have. Your story of "I thought I had extra so I spent it" exactly i thought i had extra so i spent it not "oh boy ccp ****** up now let me take advantage." the way i see it im a victim of a glitch in the system its like if i put $20 in a atm later bought a $40 headset cause when i checked my account it said i had $40 so i think oh i guess i had more in my account then i thought but really the atm counted the 20 two times. so the bank put my account to -20 dollars because their atm glitched. but id rather just return the headset and have the $20 Yes, but you spent the sp on things you wanted. So, there's no issue. If now you're saying you didn't want an Amarr proto suit (because it's not half price or whatever), why the hell did you spend sp into it in the first place? Either you got exactly what you wanted, and spent sp for, or suddenly you didn't want it all along because it's not half price. Either way, there's no issue. If you invested sp because its what you wanted, you have what you wanted early. And if invested because you were trying to get it for half price--a scam of the system of sorts--then you're getting exactly what was coming to you. And btw, if your bank ATM messes up and gives you an extra $20, guess what--the bank is going to take out that additional $20 from your account when they discover the error. >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2124	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:35:00 - [22] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Aikuchi Tomaru wrote: You can now use a Proto suit which you couldn't use normally. What are you complaining about? i still would have proto scout just not the advance radar mods You can now use advanced Radar mods which you couldn't use otherwise yet. What are you complaining about? Really: Everything it did was giving you SP before you couldn't normally have yet. You already got what you would otherwise only got next month. Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2015	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:38:00 - [23] - Quote At least you have your proto Scout. It could be worse.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8983	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:42:00 - [24] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Vespasian Andendare wrote: No, what you're saying doesn't make any sense. If you wanted to skill into proto Amarr scout, then you did, no problem there. Then, you used the remaining sp on things you wanted as well. Where's the problem? If anything, it's that you got your stuff 1,000,000 SP before you should have. Your story of "I thought I had extra so I spent it" exactly i thought i had extra so i spent it not "oh boy ccp ****** up now let me take advantage." the way i see it im a victim of a glitch in the system its like if i put $20 in a atm later bought a $40 headset cause when i checked my account it said i had $40 so i think oh i guess i had more in my account then i thought but really the atm counted the 20 two times. so the bank put my account to -20 dollars because their atm glitched. but id rather just return the headset and have the $20 Yes, but you spent the sp on things you wanted. So, there's no issue. If now you're saying you didn't want an Amarr proto suit (because it's not half price or whatever), why the hell did you spend sp into it in the first place? Either you got exactly what you wanted, and spent sp for, or suddenly you didn't want it all along because it's not half price. Either way, there's no issue. If you invested sp because its what you wanted, you have what you wanted early. And if invested because you were trying to get it for half price--a scam of the system of sorts--then you're getting exactly what was coming to you. And btw, if your bank ATM messes up and gives you an extra $20, guess what--the bank is going to take out that additional $20 from your account when they discover the error. Well wanted is a strong word.... I spent the SP values based on the formula as follows. I have 8.5 Million SP..... if I buy this I now have X Million SP with a halt on skilling at 5 Million which is what I did. Now I am told what I though was careful use of SP was not and I am down to about 3.3 Million. Look at it if the skill had been presented at their full value, and the fact that CCP would make a mistake like this never occurred to me, I probably would have held off of skilling to the Ak.0. I personally am unconcerned regarding the first 3 levels of Amarr Scout Operation...merely the last two for their massive SP investment which was not presented well. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis RISE of LEGION 724	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:45:00 - [25] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Well wanted is a strong word.... I spent the SP values based on the formula as follows. I have 8.5 Million SP..... if I buy this I now have X Million SP with a halt on skilling at 5 Million which is what I did. Now I am told what I though was careful use of SP was not and I am down to about 3.3 Million. Look at it if the skill had been presented at their full value, and the fact that CCP would make a mistake like this never occurred to me, I probably would have held off of skilling to the Ak.0. I personally am unconcerned regarding the first 3 levels of Amarr Scout Operation...merely the last two for their massive SP investment which was not presented well. I think that's a fair point, but I would again argue that if you didn't really want Amarr proto, then you shouldn't have spent sp into it, regardless of cost. For example, I have no desire to use Mass Drivers, so I haven't spent any into it, regardless of the cost. Yes, it's only 18,000 sp, but I don't have any desire to use them, so I haven't spent sp there "just because." >> Play Dust 514 FREE! Sign up for exclusive gear today! <<
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Dirt Nap Squad. 1521	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:46:00 - [26] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: so this is just messed up i would have rather had my sp refunded and the multiplier fixed. seeing negative 1 million sp is just making me not want to play. i'm going to send in a ticket to see if ccp will fix this but untill then i won't be playing much cause whats the point i can't work towards anything for about a month which i will then just be at 0 sp. Remember GM's(That handle Tickets) are different then Dev's from CCP Shanghai. They work directly with the Tranquility server cluster data bases for CCP. Depending on your wording and your tact. They may help you out.
DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 534	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:54:00 - [27] - Quote I honestly was hoping I would go negative I look at it like a car payment, cuz of this I got 4 proto scouts except minmatar cuz the pg sucks and I had 200 aur mins from the shinobi event, plus I got pro cloak, magsec, and scr, and with boosters and the event cap should be fixed in under a week Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
THE INFAMOUS Sniper Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 0	Posted - 2014.03.27 19:55:00 - [28] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: so this is just messed up i would have rather had my sp refunded and the multiplier fixed. seeing negative 1 million sp is just making me not want to play. i'm going to send in a ticket to see if ccp will fix this but untill then i won't be playing much cause whats the point i can't work towards anything for about a month which i will then just be at 0 sp. Hey you got to spend over 1m sp on things you shouldnt even have been able to try so look at it positively for a minute and just work towards it in (1 WEEK) with the event and weekly cap, stop crying you silly amarr youll make my nova knives rusty.
Altina McAlterson Pure Innocence. EoN. 949	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:02:00 - [29] - Quote If you have enough SP to be going proto for a suit you don't even want yet I have a hard time believing you didn't know that getting the racial suit skill up to lvl V takes almost 2,500,000 SP. And all of a sudden it's half that and you didn't notice? Why are you spending millions of SP without even paying attention to what's on the screen? Maybe I'm weird but when I go to train a skill all the way up to lvl V in one go I tend to look at the screen and see what's going on before I confirm it. The people that are deep into negative SP were either thinking they could take advantage of the mistake or not paying a damn bit of attention to what they were doing. Neither of those is a reason to refund anything. Running a blaster tank in ambush is like bringing Anthrax to a pillow fight.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8983	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:03:00 - [30] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: True Adamance wrote: Well wanted is a strong word.... I spent the SP values based on the formula as follows. I have 8.5 Million SP..... if I buy this I now have X Million SP with a halt on skilling at 5 Million which is what I did. Now I am told what I though was careful use of SP was not and I am down to about 3.3 Million. Look at it if the skill had been presented at their full value, and the fact that CCP would make a mistake like this never occurred to me, I probably would have held off of skilling to the Ak.0. I personally am unconcerned regarding the first 3 levels of Amarr Scout Operation...merely the last two for their massive SP investment which was not presented well. I think that's a fair point, but I would again argue that if you didn't really want Amarr proto, then you shouldn't have spent sp into it, regardless of cost. For example, I have no desire to use Mass Drivers, so I haven't spent any into it, regardless of the cost. Yes, it's only 18,000 sp, but I don't have any desire to use them, so I haven't spent sp there "just because." Indeed wholly understand where most of the player base is coming from and I already have HTFU about my stupid decision. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two



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