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Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 350	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:19:00 - [31] - Quote we all have our opinions all im saying is id rather make sp and work towards getting proto again then just work to get out of the red idc if you believe me when i say i didn't know the multiplier was broken because i know that its the truth so **** what you think I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 1169	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:20:00 - [32] - Quote U glitch U get punished. 30 Mil SP VET , TANK / DS PILOT CLICK HERE FOR ACTIVE DUST 514 YOUTUBE VIDEOS
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8984	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:21:00 - [33] - Quote GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Philipp Achtel Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 158	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:22:00 - [34] - Quote Paran Tadec wrote: Lol
Philipp Achtel Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 158	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:23:00 - [35] - Quote True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? Everyone knew that the 4x was a mistake, especially players who had enough SP to go straight to proto.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8984	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:24:00 - [36] - Quote Philipp Achtel wrote: True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? Everyone knew that the 4x was a mistake, especially players who had enough SP to go straight to proto. I didn't even know it was a 4x Skill until last night when I read the hot fix notes. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Philipp Achtel Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 158	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:24:00 - [37] - Quote double post
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 350	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:25:00 - [38] - Quote True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? exactly i knew i would have enough sp to go proto off the bat even without the glitch so y would i check the multiplier I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Philipp Achtel Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group 158	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:28:00 - [39] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? exactly i knew i would have enough sp to go proto off the bat even without the glitch so y would i check the multiplier You spent those 1,000,000 SP elsewhere. Sorry, this is on you, bud.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 350	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:30:00 - [40] - Quote Philipp Achtel wrote: True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? Everyone knew that the 4x was a mistake, especially players who had enough SP to go straight to proto. maybe if we saw that it was a x4 multiplier but most of us didn't till it was to late and already spent the rest of of our sp. i didn't know till i was 6 games into the day when babyshaker told me I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style

DEZKA DIABLO Inner.Hell 535	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:30:00 - [41] - Quote True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? It was all over the forums, jus sayin Dead trigger master , an ya I do that ISH ON PURPOSE!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8984	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:32:00 - [42] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Philipp Achtel wrote: True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? Everyone knew that the 4x was a mistake, especially players who had enough SP to go straight to proto. maybe if we saw that it was a x4 multiplier but most of us didn't till it was to late and already spent the rest of of our sp. i didn't know till i was 6 games into the day when babyshaker told me Meh I have submitted my ticket and that's in all honesty all I can do. I can certainly live with it.....but again I have to feel cheated by another build.....this time is actually related to an issue on CCP's end....and not just regarding Amarr HAV not being implemented. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 350	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:34:00 - [43] - Quote Philipp Achtel wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? exactly i knew i would have enough sp to go proto off the bat even without the glitch so y would i check the multiplier You spent those 1,000,000 SP elsewhere. Sorry, this is on you, bud. they shouldn't of just put us into the red they should of asked what a good fix would of been now we get nothing for play the next few weeks and even then we'll just be at 0 sp I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 350	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:37:00 - [44] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: Philipp Achtel wrote: True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? Everyone knew that the 4x was a mistake, especially players who had enough SP to go straight to proto. maybe if we saw that it was a x4 multiplier but most of us didn't till it was to late and already spent the rest of of our sp. i didn't know till i was 6 games into the day when babyshaker told me Meh I have submitted my ticket and that's in all honesty all I can do. I can certainly live with it.....but again I have to feel cheated by another build.....this time is actually related to an issue on CCP's end....and not just regarding Amarr HAV not being implemented. put my ticket in too. im pretty sure we'll get the refund to amarr scout skills I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 350	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:43:00 - [45] - Quote DEZKA DIABLO wrote: True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? It was all over the forums, jus sayin not everyone stay on the forums. most players don't even use the forums. i didn't go on till later that night i just went right to the game to see if the patch was up, it was, so i went to my skill and used my sp then played a few hours. not all of us check the forums every ten minutes I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8984	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:49:00 - [46] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: DEZKA DIABLO wrote: True Adamance wrote: GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote: U glitch U get punished. Punished for unknowingly skilling into a half SP modified skill then being punished for it later? It was all over the forums, jus sayin not everyone stay on the forums. most players don't even use the forums. i didn't go on till later that night i just went right to the game to see if the patch was up, it was, so i went to my skill and used my sp then played a few hours. not all of us check the forums every ten minutes I use the forums heavily and even I missed that.... Its like trying to commit fraud.... its stupid, unless you are insanely intelligent and canny you will be caught and punished. Same applies here except I suppose that some people didn't know. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
SgtDoughnut DUST University Ivy League 546	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:52:00 - [47] - Quote Multiple warnings on the forums that the Amarr suit skill was bugged, still specced into amarr scout. Now that you actually were forced to spend the right amount of sp you are bitching about it. You are honestly lucky you got to keep the skill, they should have removed your SP and left you with nothing.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8984	Posted - 2014.03.27 20:55:00 - [48] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Multiple warnings on the forums that the Amarr suit skill was bugged, still specced into amarr scout. Now that you actually were forced to spend the right amount of sp you are bitching about it. You are honestly lucky you got to keep the skill, they should have removed your SP and left you with nothing. Honestly would rather they did.... I hate feeling like SP was wasted. And would rather loose the 3 mill I earnt from the Million Clone event to remove those skill from my character. All I am saying it that I thought I was making an informed and correct choice with my SP.....apparently I did not. All I can do is submit a ticket to the GM and see how they respond. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 350	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:13:00 - [49] - Quote SgtDoughnut wrote: Multiple warnings on the forums that the Amarr suit skill was bugged, still specced into amarr scout. Now that you actually were forced to spend the right amount of sp you are bitching about it. You are honestly lucky you got to keep the skill, they should have removed your SP and left you with nothing. again thats if you looked at the forums before playing dust that day I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Cassa-Nova xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 1	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:13:00 - [50] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1975862 3rd post down, we were warned

BARDAS Shining Flame Amarr Empire 883	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:26:00 - [51] - Quote They should refund you. It was a bad business decision not to. It was through their own fault it was broken in the first place. There was no warning for the average player, who does NOT visit the forums likely, before spending all their SP. No emails, not pop ups upon sign on, nothing nada zip. Gives a big big clue as to how they view us as customers. They think we are stupid and will just give in and go along with what they say. To a degree some will because they are either stupid or CCP suck ups. The rest will just deal with the bad taste in their mouths by not purchasing any AUR or funding the developers further. If the devs can live with a reduced cash flow by all means keep the decision and be anti-consumer.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 350	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:27:00 - [52] - Quote Cassa-Nova wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1975862 3rd post down, we were warned for the 100th time thats if you were on the forums before you played that day lot of us weren't. you can't be warn if you didn't see it I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 916	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:35:00 - [53] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: they shouldn't of just put us into the red they should of asked what a good fix would of been now we get nothing for play the next few weeks and even then we'll just be at 0 sp No, that is a poor way of looking at it. You spent the SP on stuff. CCP merely corrected how much it should have cost you. What ever you spent that 1.2 million SP on you still get to use until you earn that SP off. You got a loan of 1.2 million SP from CCP you should be happy, not crying like a little girl. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4823	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:36:00 - [54] - Quote neausea 1987 wrote: ha haaaaaaaaaaaa suck it amarr suuucccck iiitttttttttttttttt At least their suits are competitive, comrade peasant. Taco Cat backwards is still Taco Cat a¦á_a¦á
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 916	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:38:00 - [55] - Quote True Adamance wrote: SgtDoughnut wrote: Multiple warnings on the forums that the Amarr suit skill was bugged, still specced into amarr scout. Now that you actually were forced to spend the right amount of sp you are bitching about it. You are honestly lucky you got to keep the skill, they should have removed your SP and left you with nothing. Honestly would rather they did.... I hate feeling like SP was wasted. And would rather loose the 3 mill I earnt from the Million Clone event to remove those skill from my character. All I am saying it that I thought I was making an informed and correct choice with my SP.....apparently I did not. All I can do is submit a ticket to the GM and see how they respond. Did you want the Amarr Scout suit? Do you still have the Amarr Scout suit? You got exactly what you wanted, for half price, for a day. You had a bargain, for awhile. If you only specced into Amarr scout because it was half price, then you must have noticed that it was the only one at the price point, and if you thought that CCP would just leave one racial suit at half price then you are an idiot. But if you spent SP on it just because it was a 4x multiplier(which is what we can reasonably infer from your complaints), then enjoy the negatie balance, you got what you deserve. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
Super Sniper95 Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 82	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:48:00 - [56] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: so this is just messed up i would have rather had my sp refunded and the multiplier fixed. seeing negative 1 million sp is just making me not want to play. i'm going to send in a ticket to see if ccp will fix this but untill then i won't be playing much cause whats the point i can't work towards anything for about a month which i will then just be at 0 sp. Pfffffft Hahahaha. Sorry m8 that just made me laught, thats what you get for switch up to the scout of the opposite faction. Sniper Rifle 4life \0/ Longest kill 599.99 meters SR optimization lvl 5 \0/ I dont need Thales to hit 40/0.
Xander Mercy Dem Durrty Boyz Dirt Nap Squad. 351	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:49:00 - [57] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Did you want the Amarr Scout suit? Do you still have the Amarr Scout suit? You got exactly what you wanted, for half price, for a day. You had a bargain, for awhile. If you only specced into Amarr scout because it was half price, then you must have noticed that it was the only one at the price point, and if you thought that CCP would just leave one racial suit at half price then you are an idiot. But if you spent SP on it just because it was a 4x multiplier(which is what we can reasonably infer from your complaints), then enjoy the negatie balance, you got what you deserve. i didn't know it was a x4 multiplier and id rather just get the sp refunded then keep the suit I don't like the Amarr but boy do they have style
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 7684	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:50:00 - [58] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: Vell0cet wrote: People seem to see the glass as 1% empty instead of 99% full. shrug OP: think of it as CCP giving you the skill on layaway for 50% down and 0% interest for as long as it takes to pay back. If that was a car in real life, you'd have a hell-of-a-deal. i'd rather just not have have the proto scout since i don't use it i just didn't want to skill into it later. Wait, what? You didn't even want proto? Then why did you spec that far into it in the first place? By the way, this issue was posted in the forums on the first day. This is standard procedure to read the issues thread before doing anything in the new update. Dedicated Scout // Ninja Knifer Everything I know about the Caldari I learned at Nouvelle Rouvenor
GeneralButtNaked Amarr Templars 917	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:52:00 - [59] - Quote Xander Mercy wrote: i didn't know it was a x4 multiplier and id rather just get the sp refunded then keep the suit Failing to read the info is on you. If you don't think the Amarr scout is worth the SP you invested, that is common with any proto dropsuit, deal with it. Not takes back though, you shouldn't have spent your SP to fast, you could have tested the suit at std or adv to make sure it was going to fulfill your needs. Real AV doesn't stop until all the tanks are dead.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 8984	Posted - 2014.03.27 21:53:00 - [60] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Xander Mercy wrote: they shouldn't of just put us into the red they should of asked what a good fix would of been now we get nothing for play the next few weeks and even then we'll just be at 0 sp No, that is a poor way of looking at it. You spent the SP on stuff. CCP merely corrected how much it should have cost you. What ever you spent that 1.2 million SP on you still get to use until you earn that SP off. You got a loan of 1.2 million SP from CCP you should be happy, not crying like a little girl. But I am unhappy for that exact reason. I am concerned that with my initial investment into the role would have seen a significantly lesser investment of my SP into the role. As I have explained during my SP allocation I was not unwilling to skill into scouts, but I had set myself a limit on SP spent to ensure I would not skill excessively.... additionally I did not expect CCP to have such trouble in the implementation of correct skill modifiers.... as such in full I ended spending more SP than I was willing to leaving me with less in my pool that I was specifically saving. That is my issue. That SP was never intended to have been spent. As I was not aware of the issues with the scouts until reading the hot fix patch and made aware than more SP was going t be taken from me equivalent to a further 1 million SP I feel as though I have been somewhat cheated out of SP that if presented as skill costs to me intially would have resulted in a more reserved application of SP. I am not wholly concerned with having SP into scouts however I would like the opportunity to realocate the SP spent on Scout Operation IV and V as those are the bulk of total SP spent and it was on those skills the modifier has maximum effect. "Get thine Swag out of my face! Next you'll be writing #YOLOswagforJamyl in all your posts!" -Dagger Two



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