http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/737

757 stamina, 100+ stamina regen

http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/737

757 stamina, 100+ stamina regen

http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/181/483

http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/181/481

For the first one,
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/170/738
Stats
Scout ak.0 || Scout gk.0
Shield: 245.2 || 232.7
Armor: 333.5 || 311
EHP: 578.7 || 543.7
Armor Repair Rate: 6.25 || 3
Movement Speed: 5.09 || 5.18
Stamina: 360.94 || 441
Stamina Regen: 52.5 || 66.15
Profile Signature: 23.63 || 17.72
Scan Radius: 30 || 37.5

Amarr scout gets roughly 35 more EHP and 3 more armor repair rate, but Gallente scout is faster, can sprint longer, recover faster, has a lower profile signature, and can scan further.

For the second one,
http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/170/739
Stats
Scout ak.0 || Scout gk.0
Shield: 245.2 || 232.7
Armor: 454.5 || 459.5
EHP: 699.7 || 692.2
Armor Repair Rate: 12.5 || 9.25
Movement Speed: 4.94 || 4.92
Stamina: 360.94 || 441
Stamina Regen: 52.5 || 66.15
Profile Signature: 31.5 || 23.63
Scan Radius: 30 || 37.5

Amarr scout gets only 7.5 more EHP and 3.25 more armor repair rate, but Gallente scout is only 0.02 slower, can sprint longer, recover faster, has a lower profile signature, and can scan further.

Edit: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/181/735 this too

Let's have some fun here. Someone give me an Amarr Scout fitting using http://www.protofits.com/fittings

I will then quote your entry and show you how to make a Gallente Scout fitting that is simply better.

Go.

Listen, I get it you're not happy with the Amarr Scout racial bonus... I see that 25 times a day. The Amarr Scout bonus should be 7% instead of 5. I understand the Cal and Gal racial bonuses are superior to that of the race that you want to use.


Don't sit here and try to compare the Amarr with the Gal and Cal Scouts - they simply don't stack up in terms of Profile (Gal) and eWar (Cal). Instead try and compare the Amarr and the Min scouts, and when that is done the Amare scout CPU/PG provide a better overall suit fitting.

Is hacking bonus a nice things sure, its great in Skirmish and FW, but useless in Ambush. Is a NK damage bonus sweet, provides 100 extra damaged per swipe on Proto knives, pretty sure but when you consider NK are not a Min weapon then it brings,you to the conclusion will you have to skill into another NK type weapon later to match your Min Scout ?!? Its a serious question whether or not to spec into NK when you don't know is Min Knifes will be adjusted... So could prove troublesome indeed.

Next, there is a serious problem with the Min Scout at advanced. You can see for yourself... Try to equip anything but a CR with a std cloak and it proves very troubling.. When you try to run NK which lack a PG reduction skill it's even more difficult.

Now, is the bonus great for the Amarr Scout - not exactly but it's not as bad as the Min Scout could potentially be. Is the Amarr Scout role different than Gal and Cal, most Definitely. CCP is providing the option for a solid light infantry with good speed and stamina (no need for cards on a low) which can cloak. The suit isn't designed to be hidden like the Gal or a eWar specialist like the Cal so don't try and make it one, use it in the role it's meant for and it'll be better than any assault and potentially any Commando.

Profits is great tool I use it to compare fits, maybe you've seen my scout comparison copy pastes but the Amarr stats on a basic cookie cutter build is quite solid.

If you want a hidden or eWar type scout pick the race that gives it to you, don't sit and complain about how the race you want can't play the role you want. Simply accept it's role and like I said maybe its not as bad as you might think it is when compares to the Min Scout, especially at the advanced level suit.

http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/737

757 stamina, 100+ stamina regen

Lots of words.

How about you take some of that logic and apply it to not picking the Amarr scout.

If you think a class is inferior than don't choose it. But the Amarr Scouts role isn't an eWar specialist or a low profile scout. If you want to use your slots for it go ahead, but you can STFU about any logic you have.

The stats are the stats, and the racial bonus is set for 1.8. if you don't like the racial bonus of Amarr Scout then pick another scout. But no, all you do is offer up OP ideas and ***** about how the Amarr scout should be the best cause you like Amarr.

Grow up Peter Pan, if you don't like something than don't pick it. No one is making you pick it. There are plenty of good builds for a Amarr Advance Scout. Maybe they don't have an eWar or Profile racial bonus but their bonus is not horrible, like some make it out to be.

Also I'm hyped about the amarr scout 4 complex red build for start of PC. Enough stamina to not need a green and 4 reds should get it to like 10.9

Hmm... Well I'm surprised that the gk.O fits are actually not that much better than the amarr fits.

The biggest differences were the scan range and profile. Which to be honest, range isn't that big a deal. 30 is still huge. Right now I play with range at level 3 on scout lv 5.. I think that's like 25m?

Profile on the other hand is pretty important. But nothing the amarr can't achieve by adding a dampener or 2.

Regardless, the gallente scout is in fact superior. I'd say it's the best scout come 1.8. But like the assault and logi suits, the true potential lies in the player, not the suit.

Also I'm hyped about the amarr scout 4 complex red build for start of PC. Enough stamina to not need a green and 4 reds should get it to like 10.9

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it's mostly the built-in armor repair that make the gallente OP, i agree with ya, the stamina bonus kinda suck compared to the profile one, i'll stick to my min, but i'd really like to see the ammar scout balance compared to the gallente, i still think it's a good suit, it's just that the gallente is so good

Well, you're forgetting that a Gallente with 3 reds and 1 green will have more stamina while having something like 10.73 sprint.

I believe CCP caps speed at 10m/sec.

This also means that you would be better off using a minmatar/gallente suits for this purpose. The amarr has a maximum average speed of 9.43 meters per second, with no additional benefits. The gallente has a max average speed of 9.6 meters per second, and the minmatar a max average speed of 9.7 meters per second. Both of the non-amarr suits offer additional benefits as well.

Also, the minmatar suit will get there first, every time... yes every time I don't care how you fit the amarrian suit, the minmatar will get there faster.

Oh yeah the Amarr scout will still be a good suit no doubt, it's just that when you compare it to it's closest brother, the Gallente scout, it gets outperformed in every single way. There is no trade offs, the Gallente scout is just better.

Now I'm not sure if the solution is to nerf the Gallente scout or buff the Amarr scout, but something needs to be done.

More stamina is irrelevant if the amount of stamina the amarr starts off with is good enough to get to the city. Add being a tad bit faster, and it's going to be the best starter suit to get to the city at beginning of a match

Change the bonus from a stamina one to this:

+5% per level to efficacy of biotic modules
-5% per level to cloak recharge time

Done. Not over powered, but definately it's own role.

(Complex kincaats go from +12.6% to +15.75%, not a large change, and not enough to make the amarr faster than the other suits with only one red bottle)