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Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7568	Posted - 2014.03.16 05:45:00 - [1] - Quote Let's have some fun here. Someone give me an Amarr Scout fitting using http://www.protofits.com/fittings I will then quote your entry and show you how to make a Gallente Scout fitting that is simply better. Go. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.03.16 06:37:00 - [2] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/181/483 http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/181/481 For the first one, http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/170/738 Stats Scout ak.0 \|\| Scout gk.0 Shield: 245.2 \|\| 232.7 Armor: 333.5 \|\| 311 EHP: 578.7 \|\| 543.7 Armor Repair Rate: 6.25 \|\| 3 Movement Speed: 5.09 \|\| 5.18 Stamina: 360.94 \|\| 441 Stamina Regen: 52.5 \|\| 66.15 Profile Signature: 23.63 \|\| 17.72 Scan Radius: 30 \|\| 37.5 Amarr scout gets roughly 35 more EHP and 3 more armor repair rate, but Gallente scout is faster, can sprint longer, recover faster, has a lower profile signature, and can scan further. For the second one, http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/170/739 Stats Scout ak.0 \|\| Scout gk.0 Shield: 245.2 \|\| 232.7 Armor: 454.5 \|\| 459.5 EHP: 699.7 \|\| 692.2 Armor Repair Rate: 12.5 \|\| 9.25 Movement Speed: 4.94 \|\| 4.92 Stamina: 360.94 \|\| 441 Stamina Regen: 52.5 \|\| 66.15 Profile Signature: 31.5 \|\| 23.63 Scan Radius: 30 \|\| 37.5 Amarr scout gets only 7.5 more EHP and 3.25 more armor repair rate, but Gallente scout is only 0.02 slower, can sprint longer, recover faster, has a lower profile signature, and can scan further. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.03.16 06:51:00 - [3] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Edit: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/181/735 this too http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/170/740 Stats Scout ak.0 \|\| Scout gk.0 Shield: 245.2 \|\| 232.7 Armor: 482 \|\| 459.5 EHP: 727.2 \|\| 692.2 Armor Repair Rate: 6.25 \|\| 6.75 Movement Speed: 4.84 \|\| 4.92 Stamina: 360.94 \|\| 441 Stamina Regen: 52.5 \|\| 66.15 Profile Signature: 23.63 \|\| 23.63 Scan Radius: 30 \|\| 37.5 Amarr scout gets about 35 more EHP, but Gallente gets slightly faster armor repair rate, faster movement, more stamina, faster recovery, and a further scan radius. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.03.16 06:54:00 - [4] - Quote Edited first example is post 7 so now it has more armor repair and same profile signature. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.03.16 07:05:00 - [5] - Quote Phazoid wrote: http://www.protofits.com/fittings/view/0/737 757 stamina, 100+ stamina regen http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/170/741 Stats Scout ak.0 \|\| Scout gk.0 Shield: 245.2 \|\| 232.7 Armor: 295 \|\| 283.5 EHP: 540.2 \|\| 516.2 Armor Repair Rate: 0 \|\| 3 Movement Speed: 5.25 \|\| 5.29 Stamina: 757.97 \|\| 862.61 Stamina Regen: 110.25 \|\| 129.39 Profile Signature: 23.63 \|\| 23.63 Scan Radius: 43.5 \|\| 54.38 Amarr scout gets about 25 more EHP, but Gallente scout is faster, has more stamina, can recover faster, can scan further, actually has an armor repair, and for the heck of it was able to put a prototype grenade in as well where you left it empty. Come on man, that was too easy. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.03.16 07:07:00 - [6] - Quote C0TS wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Let's have some fun here. Someone give me an Amarr Scout fitting using http://www.protofits.com/fittings I will then quote your entry and show you how to make a Gallente Scout fitting that is simply better. Go. Lots of words. Look man, I'm not hear to talk a lot or read a lot, all I want to do is have people give me Amarr scout fittings and then instantly turn around and make vastly better Gallente scout fittings. So far I have succeeded. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.03.16 07:13:00 - [7] - Quote Ok guys. So far I did four examples. On all examples the Gallente scout was able to have better stamina and stamina regen, be faster (or in one case just a 0.04 slower), have better armor repair rate, have better scan radius, and at most only lose out on about 35 EHP in exchange for all these benefits. Have I done my job? Can you guys see the pattern I am using to convert Amarr fits into better Gallente fits? Can all those people who say "Stop complaining when the suit isn't even released" please shut up now. The people complaining about the Amarr scout suit do so with valid reason. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.03.16 07:20:00 - [8] - Quote C0TS wrote: How about you take some of that logic and apply it to not picking the Amarr scout. If you think a class is inferior than don't choose it. But the Amarr Scouts role isn't an eWar specialist or a low profile scout. If you want to use your slots for it go ahead, but you can STFU about any logic you have. The stats are the stats, and the racial bonus is set for 1.8. if you don't like the racial bonus of Amarr Scout then pick another scout. But no, all you do is offer up OP ideas and ***** about how the Amarr scout should be the best cause you like Amarr. Grow up Peter Pan, if you don't like something than don't pick it. No one is making you pick it. There are plenty of good builds for a Amarr Advance Scout. Maybe they don't have an eWar or Profile racial bonus but their bonus is not horrible, like some make it out to be. Great example of someone who reads the thread title and then proceeds to ignore everything else in the thread and post. Do you even realize that in all my examples not only does the Gallente scout have better e-war but it also has better stamina, stamina recovery, and speed. Apply some logic to that. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.03.16 07:26:00 - [9] - Quote Omareth Nasadra wrote: it's mostly the built-in armor repair that make the gallente OP, i agree with ya, the stamina bonus kinda suck compared to the profile one, i'll stick to my min, but i'd really like to see the ammar scout balance compared to the gallente, i still think it's a good suit, it's just that the gallente is so good Oh yeah the Amarr scout will still be a good suit no doubt, it's just that when you compare it to it's closest brother, the Gallente scout, it gets outperformed in every single way. There is no trade offs, the Gallente scout is just better. Now I'm not sure if the solution is to nerf the Gallente scout or buff the Amarr scout, but something needs to be done. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7573	Posted - 2014.03.16 07:39:00 - [10] - Quote DJINN Marauder wrote: Also minmitar is not faster when you put red mods. 4 lows with reds beats 3 lows with reds pretty sure. Amarr scout sprint speed isn't listed but going off of proportions it should be 7.3. Now let's remember that each complex kin cat will add 12.6% with the skill but also has stacking penalties. So Amarr scout 4 reds: 10.12 Minmatar scout 10.58 Sorry buddy, you are wrong. Minmatar is still faster. EDIT: Was not taking into consideration 5% bonus from Dropsuit Biotic Upgrades, but that will increase both of them by 5% so Minmatar is still faster. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."

Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7586	Posted - 2014.03.16 16:30:00 - [11] - Quote Scout Registry wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Do you even realize that in all my examples not only does the Gallente scout have better e-war but it also has better stamina, stamina recovery, and speed. Apply some logic to that. Not sure how you guys are coming to the conclusion that Gallente beats Amarr in stamina and stamina regen. By my math, Amarr have the highest Stamina Pool and second highest Stamina Regen. Stamina Math (Ranked by Highest) Stamina,Lvl(1),Lvl(3),Lvl(5),Biotics(5),CmpCardReg(x1) Amarr,275,316,344,361,758 Minmatar,225,225,225,236,496 Gallente,200,200,200,210,441 Caldari,200,200,200,210,441 Stamina Regen Math (Ranked by Highest) Stamina_Regen,Lvl(1),Lvl(3),Lvl(5),Biotics(5),CmpCardReg(x1) Minmatar,80,80,80,84,176 Amarr,40,46,50,53,110 Gallente,30,30,30,32,66 Caldari,30,30,30,32,66 Just look at my four fitting examples on the first page to see how the Gallente scout can easily outpass the Amarr scout in stamina without sacrificing anything. "You're not even Aero, you're just Aero's friend."

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