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DJINN Rampage Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1090	Posted - 2014.03.08 16:53:00 - [121] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Actually, they don't get paid but get money when they ask for it. They have been rolling proto every game even during the beginning of Uprising. Heavily involved PC corps have had rich players forever, district locking has only made small inexperienced PC corps semi-rich. Nyain San has been protostomping since chromosome. GÿáTemplar of the Exiled.GäóGÖå GÖ½ +¬ Gÿ+ Æ. ... Who gives a flux. +ª GêP Signature move: 5-Finger PubStomp -å
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 469	Posted - 2014.03.08 16:55:00 - [122] - Quote DJINN Rampage wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Actually, they don't get paid but get money when they ask for it. They have been rolling proto every game even during the beginning of Uprising. Heavily involved PC corps have had rich players forever, district locking has only made small inexperienced PC corps semi-rich. Nyain San has been protostomping since chromosome. ewwwwwwwwww stalker CCP Lockingbro needs help! Sign!
TTK II Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 2	Posted - 2014.03.08 18:54:00 - [123] - Quote Been around since closed beta, ya know, when game was fun & had real potential. At this point, unfortunately, I don't really think there's anything they can do to get me interested in this game again. However, I still hold out a, albeit small, hope that they will get this right eventually. Thankfully, there's passive SP. Up to 14 million & counting. So, hopefully, when they do figure this out & give everyone a respec, I'll have enough to skill into damn near everything . On another note: GO GUSTAFSSON!!!!!!!
poison Diego NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 320	Posted - 2014.03.08 21:38:00 - [124] - Quote TTK II wrote: Been around since closed beta, ya know, when game was fun & had real potential. At this point, unfortunately, I don't really think there's anything they can do to get me interested in this game again. However, I still hold out, albeit small, hope that they will get this right eventually. Thankfully, there's passive SP. Up to 14 million & counting. So, hopefully, when they do figure this out & give everyone a respec, I'll have enough to skill into damn near everything . On another note: GO GUSTAFSSON!!!!!!! Haha our champ sponsored by CCP Gunnar Nelson already won his fight Gustafsson is going in the cage right now! WELCOME TO WORLDofTANKz514
poison Diego NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 320	Posted - 2014.03.08 21:48:00 - [125] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Actually, they don't get paid but get money when they ask for it. They have been rolling proto every game even during the beginning of Uprising. Heavily involved PC corps have had rich players forever, district locking has only made small inexperienced PC corps semi-rich. Yoshi I've talked to people who said that they would get 15-20mill isk every time they asked a director and they would even get it twice a day if they asked a different director... WELCOME TO WORLDofTANKz514
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 473	Posted - 2014.03.09 00:58:00 - [126] - Quote poison Diego wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Actually, they don't get paid but get money when they ask for it. They have been rolling proto every game even during the beginning of Uprising. Heavily involved PC corps have had rich players forever, district locking has only made small inexperienced PC corps semi-rich. Yoshi I've talked to people who said that they would get 15-20mill isk every time they asked a director and they would even get it twice a day if they asked a different director... That's what I said, they get it if they ask for it. CCP Lockingbro needs help! Sign!
poison Diego NECROM0NGERS The CORVOS 322	Posted - 2014.03.09 01:05:00 - [127] - Quote Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: poison Diego wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Actually, they don't get paid but get money when they ask for it. They have been rolling proto every game even during the beginning of Uprising. Heavily involved PC corps have had rich players forever, district locking has only made small inexperienced PC corps semi-rich. Yoshi I've talked to people who said that they would get 15-20mill isk every time they asked a director and they would even get it twice a day if they asked a different director... That's what I said, they get it if they ask for it. Oh sorry I read it wrong... but that is even more of a reason to stay there WELCOME TO WORLDofTANKz514
Shiyou Hidiyoshi Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 473	Posted - 2014.03.09 01:43:00 - [128] - Quote poison Diego wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: poison Diego wrote: Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote: Actually, they don't get paid but get money when they ask for it. They have been rolling proto every game even during the beginning of Uprising. Heavily involved PC corps have had rich players forever, district locking has only made small inexperienced PC corps semi-rich. Yoshi I've talked to people who said that they would get 15-20mill isk every time they asked a director and they would even get it twice a day if they asked a different director... That's what I said, they get it if they ask for it. Oh sorry I read it wrong... but that is even more of a reason to stay there True for a few of them but not for many in NS. Not that many Japanese corps out there lol Many of those NS guys are crazy jokesters and are good friends so even if their corp was poor, they would still stay. Bunch of horny jokesters they are CCP Lockingbro needs help! Sign!
Skihids Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 3005	Posted - 2014.03.09 03:16:00 - [129] - Quote So you finally close the spigot, after months of flooding. Are you going to mop up that lake of ISK on the floor, or are you going to let it rot it out and collapse the economy?
Billi Gene 503	Posted - 2014.03.09 03:24:00 - [130] - Quote not aware of the costs, but i'd say that district locking should bleed itself dry if the game mechanics are sound. certainly some alliances should have massive stockpiles of clone packs by now ; / Pedant, Ape, Troll. My Beard makes Alpha's sook :P
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 252	Posted - 2014.03.09 11:58:00 - [131] - Quote KenKaniff69 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: I've clarified the patch note about the PC change. it looks for a battle result, which means if you kill all the clones bar one and the battle expires then the attackers lose by default. So unless someone sees a battle result screen, the defenders win by default. I still have a feeling that people will be able to lock districts and make a profit. As a matter of fact I may just have a solution in mind. If you believe you have a method for still making a profit by locking districts, please file a bug report with details. Isn't that CCP's job to check logs for things like this. If you think the current problems of locking are bad, you haven't seen anything yet. I have seen glitches that would make a dev's head spin. However, why report them if it took this long just to stop a simple refund mechanic? I have proof of all of this too, so don't think I am lying in the slightest bit. Why report them? Wow. So umm, tell them when something is broken / glitched / whatever, so you can help them, help us, help you. Do you want a bigger player base? Do you want DUST to be around in the coming years? You have no idea why this took as long as it did, and no idea whether you could list 10 more things need fixing that weren't fixed within a few months.
The Baby Shaker Dem Durrty Boyz Renegade Alliance 146	Posted - 2014.03.09 15:17:00 - [132] - Quote Its about time. I find it funny it took so long to fix district locking yet they accomplish it with a simple hotfix lol I'm too drunk to taste this chicken
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 636	Posted - 2014.03.09 17:01:00 - [133] - Quote Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote: A lot of folks often ask "what does the CPM do exactly?" Well, here's an excellent example in the OP that you can link them to. Ever since we heard that Team True Grit was being re-assigned back to work on EVE Online, we've been working hard between TTG members and management in Shanghai to make sure the transition was handled smoothly. We know these systems are valuable to the game and needed to be taken care of and not abandoned. For a couple of months now we have been pressing for a list of small adjustments to the most broken aspects of the conquest systems, and we are thrilled that Nullarbor's recent trip to Shanghai yielded the implementation of a couple of these items as he worked alongside the next team to be handling link gameplay. Many thanks to the Devs involved for taking the time to address community concerns as represented by the CPM, and making sure that FW and Planetary Conquest are continually iterated upon throughout this time of transition within the studio. I haven't read a post by you since.... well never. who are you? Newb
ladwar Death by Disassociation Legacy Rising 2001	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:00:00 - [134] - Quote IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: I've clarified the patch note about the PC change. it looks for a battle result, which means if you kill all the clones bar one and the battle expires then the attackers lose by default. So unless someone sees a battle result screen, the defenders win by default. I still have a feeling that people will be able to lock districts and make a profit. As a matter of fact I may just have a solution in mind. If you believe you have a method for still making a profit by locking districts, please file a bug report with details. Isn't that CCP's job to check logs for things like this. If you think the current problems of locking are bad, you haven't seen anything yet. I have seen glitches that would make a dev's head spin. However, why report them if it took this long just to stop a simple refund mechanic? I have proof of all of this too, so don't think I am lying in the slightest bit. Why report them? Wow. So umm, tell them when something is broken / glitched / whatever, so you can help them, help us, help you. Do you want a bigger player base? Do you want DUST to be around in the coming years? You have no idea why this took as long as it did, and no idea whether you could list 10 more things need fixing that weren't fixed within a few months. its not like they are going to fix/learn from it even if you told them, it would still happen. Level 2 Forum Warrior, bitter vet. I shall smite Thy Trolls with numbers and truth doing reviews in free time, want 1?
TechMechMeds SWAMPERIUM 2818	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:24:00 - [135] - Quote I might get into fw now that amarr and caldari might be able to compete properly. Level 2 forum warrior. Dust on the ps4 asap please I sold my family to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic
ads alt 147	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:38:00 - [136] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: I might get into fw now that amarr and caldari might be able to compete properly. I dont get it, how doea this help them? Click here for 1.8 release date quote from devs
iKILLu osborne Heavy Reign inc. Freek Alliance 0	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:57:00 - [137] - Quote well i feel fw is owned by vets now but, your problem ain't proto stomping / q syncing in fw it's when we run low on isk we proto stomp public matches (for isk and to keep k/d ratio in check) and it prevents new players from getting into the game because every match they are proto stomped over and over and over so to even it out i would love to see isk packs you can buy with lp somewhere in the market its just an idea I mean right now we have to rely on pub matches for isk or beta player with deep pockets
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 252	Posted - 2014.03.09 18:58:00 - [138] - Quote ladwar wrote: IAmDuncanIdaho II wrote: KenKaniff69 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Info about PC ISK farming fixes If you believe you have a method for still making a profit by locking districts, please file a bug report with details. Isn't that CCP's job to check logs for things like this. If you think the current problems of locking are bad, you haven't seen anything yet. I have seen glitches that would make a dev's head spin. However, why report them if it took this long just to stop a simple refund mechanic? I have proof of all of this too, so don't think I am lying in the slightest bit. Why report them? Wow. So umm, tell them when something is broken / glitched / whatever, so you can help them, help us, help you. Do you want a bigger player base? Do you want DUST to be around in the coming years? You have no idea why this took as long as it did, and no idea whether you could list 10 more things need fixing that weren't fixed within a few months. its not like they are going to fix/learn from it even if you told them, it would still happen. I'd humbly suggest that's a rather defeatist attitude, and not wholly accurate. Then again, I'm not surprised ppl are giving up hope :(
Vicero Arnoldi Crimson Saints 0	Posted - 2014.03.10 09:19:00 - [139] - Quote When is 1.8 release date?

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 5720	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:40:00 - [140] - Quote Bendtner92 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Battles will now also terminate before the reinforcement window closes. Am I misunderstanding this or will battles that start at example xx:40 or xx:50 terminate at the end of the reinforcement timer even if there's a battle going? xx:30 and earlier battles wouldn't really be affected as they usually end before. Just to update on this, the note we got said reinforcement timer but I've clarified with the devs and it's now the battle will terminate an hour after the scheduled battle start time, not reinforcement window. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1843	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:46:00 - [141] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Just to update on this, the note we got said reinforcement timer but I've clarified with the devs and it's now the battle will terminate an hour after the scheduled battle start time, not reinforcement window. Thank you! Winner of the EU Squad Cup & the closed beta Tester's Tournament. Go Go Power Rangers! R.I.P MAG.
Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 151	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:47:00 - [142] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Battles will now also terminate before the reinforcement window closes. Am I misunderstanding this or will battles that start at example xx:40 or xx:50 terminate at the end of the reinforcement timer even if there's a battle going? xx:30 and earlier battles wouldn't really be affected as they usually end before. Just to update on this, the note we got said reinforcement timer but I've clarified with the devs and it's now the battle will terminate an hour after the scheduled battle start time, not reinforcement window. Clarify a bit more, this is from my understanding: Battles that take place but no one in it is deemed invalid and will close within an hour. From that it tells me people could still lock districts (the top 1% of DUST Corporations) I hoping that I completely misunderstood what you are saying. If not then I have one more question, what was the true goal of the hotfix according to the higher ups? PS: not whining, complaining, and or etc.. Just a consumer wanting answers. Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 5721	Posted - 2014.03.10 14:57:00 - [143] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Battles will now also terminate before the reinforcement window closes. Am I misunderstanding this or will battles that start at example xx:40 or xx:50 terminate at the end of the reinforcement timer even if there's a battle going? xx:30 and earlier battles wouldn't really be affected as they usually end before. Just to update on this, the note we got said reinforcement timer but I've clarified with the devs and it's now the battle will terminate an hour after the scheduled battle start time, not reinforcement window. Clarify a bit more, this is from my understanding: Battles that take place but no one in it is deemed invalid and will close within an hour. From that it tells me people could still lock districts (the top 1% of DUST Corporations) I hoping that I completely misunderstood what you are saying. If not then I have one more question, what was the true goal of the hotfix according to the higher ups? PS: not whining, complaining, and or etc.. Just a consumer wanting answers. A battle with no one in it at all will automatically count as an attacker loss with no refund of the clones or clone pack. While you can still technically lock a district, you can't do it profitably any more. We're also looking at some other changes to the system, but I'll share the details of those once they get locked in for a later deployment. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 151	Posted - 2014.03.10 16:11:00 - [144] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Dj grammer wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Battles will now also terminate before the reinforcement window closes. Am I misunderstanding this or will battles that start at example xx:40 or xx:50 terminate at the end of the reinforcement timer even if there's a battle going? xx:30 and earlier battles wouldn't really be affected as they usually end before. Just to update on this, the note we got said reinforcement timer but I've clarified with the devs and it's now the battle will terminate an hour after the scheduled battle start time, not reinforcement window. Clarify a bit more, this is from my understanding: Battles that take place but no one in it is deemed invalid and will close within an hour. From that it tells me people could still lock districts (the top 1% of DUST Corporations) I hoping that I completely misunderstood what you are saying. If not then I have one more question, what was the true goal of the hotfix according to the higher ups? PS: not whining, complaining, and or etc.. Just a consumer wanting answers. A battle with no one in it at all will automatically count as an attacker loss with no refund of the clones or clone pack. While you can still technically lock a district, you can't do it profitably any more. We're also looking at some other changes to the system, but I'll share the details of those once they get locked in for a later deployment. Thanks for the reply LogiBro (man you are quick). One last question and I will shut up and wait for 1.8 to drop. What happens if the attacking side enters in at least one guy but then he leaves just to preserve the clones/isk, what would that do? Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 5763	Posted - 2014.03.10 18:04:00 - [145] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Dj grammer wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Bendtner92 wrote: CCP Logibro wrote: Battles will now also terminate before the reinforcement window closes. Am I misunderstanding this or will battles that start at example xx:40 or xx:50 terminate at the end of the reinforcement timer even if there's a battle going? xx:30 and earlier battles wouldn't really be affected as they usually end before. Just to update on this, the note we got said reinforcement timer but I've clarified with the devs and it's now the battle will terminate an hour after the scheduled battle start time, not reinforcement window. Clarify a bit more, this is from my understanding: Battles that take place but no one in it is deemed invalid and will close within an hour. From that it tells me people could still lock districts (the top 1% of DUST Corporations) I hoping that I completely misunderstood what you are saying. If not then I have one more question, what was the true goal of the hotfix according to the higher ups? PS: not whining, complaining, and or etc.. Just a consumer wanting answers. A battle with no one in it at all will automatically count as an attacker loss with no refund of the clones or clone pack. While you can still technically lock a district, you can't do it profitably any more. We're also looking at some other changes to the system, but I'll share the details of those once they get locked in for a later deployment. Thanks for the reply LogiBro (man you are quick). One last question and I will shut up and wait for 1.8 to drop. What happens if the attacking side enters in at least one guy but then he leaves just to preserve the clones/isk, what would that do? Then you can hack the points uncontested and blow their MCC without any contest, just like now. They would still lose. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 151	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:08:00 - [146] - Quote Same deal for the defending side as well? Thanks again for the quick input too. you are AWESOME Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 5775	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:08:00 - [147] - Quote Dj grammer wrote: Same deal for the defending side as well? Thanks again for the quick input too. you are AWESOME Of course. It's pretty easy to beat an opponent that doesn't show up. CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics

Dj grammer Red Star. EoN. 151	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:14:00 - [148] - Quote thanks again, sorry for asking common sense questions. Just being safe. Open Beta (12/13/2012) to a 1-year Vet. Have been a Logistics user since Uprising 1.0. Yea that old.
501st Headstrong G0DS AM0NG MEN D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 147	Posted - 2014.03.10 19:32:00 - [149] - Quote I could hug you guys... IDGAF who you are. You shot at my Corp, now I WILL kill you. Only question is: Will you fight back?
Bunny Demon Capital Acquisitions LLC Renegade Alliance 100	Posted - 2014.03.10 21:50:00 - [150] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: Dj grammer wrote: Same deal for the defending side as well? Thanks again for the quick input too. you are AWESOME Of course. It's pretty easy to beat an opponent that doesn't show up. What if 1 person from each side turns up but they are brother/sister corps so no one hacks, what happens then? So.....when are the um......new dropsuits coming out CCP.....it's been a few weeks now.... ;)

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