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843-BANE
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:23:00 -
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Ok so lets say Corp A is attacked by Corp B. This costs Corp B 36 million ISK, right?
Corp B then no show, and lose 36 million ISK and all the clones therefore.
Where does that ISK go?
Can one man not show up to a battle and save the lost ISK, ergo allowing locks?
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Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
3034
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:24:00 -
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FW is going to be ****** up until they fix Matchmaking.
(Seriously, it's been ~6 months and it's still not a top priority?)
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Korvin Lomont
United Pwnage Service
RISE of LEGION
663
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:29:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:FW is going to be ****** up until they fix Matchmaking.
(Seriously, it's been ~6 months and it's still not a top priority?)
Matchmaking is hard to fix for FW as its up to the player for which side he is fighting...but normal pups desperately need better matchmaking |
Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1914
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:32:00 -
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Arx Ardashir wrote:You can't fix PC yet, CCP, I haven't gotten my chance to farm ISK yet. 
You were too late. Without the fix you never will get that chance.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1914
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:33:00 -
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Rynoceros wrote:FW is going to be ****** up until they fix Matchmaking.
(Seriously, it's been ~6 months and it's still not a top priority?)
Well. They can't move good players from the Gallente to Caldari. The problem is that only scrubs fight for Caldari and only Corps for Gallente.
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Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
RISE of LEGION
785
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:37:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:
Factional Warfare: Adjusted the battle spawning so that factions will need to spend more time defending their districts proportionally to the number of districts they control
What this means is that as a faction controls a higher percentage of districts in the warzone, it will generate more defense contracts for that faction.
Awesome change, Amarr/Caldari need the leg up and FW changes like this are welcome, PC needs a total overhaul though.
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Arunis Gen
G I A N T
General Tso's Alliance
126
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:42:00 -
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*Bittervert*Inb4 something else that is gamebreaking occurs.*Bittervet*
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Flyingconejo
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
524
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:49:00 -
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By the way, the problem in FW is not the number of contracts per faction, is the low number of people willing to play for the losing factions, specially Caldari.
And that's not going to change unless you somehow increase the reward for the losing side of a PFC match. |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:54:00 -
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Planetary Conquest: Locking a district will now ensure the attacker loses clones and ISK Quote:when there is no battle
So then this does nothing for those Corps who will just go in with their Alt corp and shoot a few things to create a battle. 
Oh CCP, what happen to you guys?
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Ferocitan
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL
Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:56:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:FIRST!!! Quite a solid hit to PC locking... i like it  AND A 1.8 RELEASE DATE 
Its a releasedate for EVE/DUst relations. NOt nessesary a releasedate for dust 1.8
CCP Logibro wrote:And to those asking, no, Uprising 1.8 won't be going out at the same time. |
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Absolute Idiom II
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
939
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:57:00 -
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Without wanting to seem churlish: WHAT THE HELL TOOK YOU SO LONG!!?
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
133
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Posted - 2014.03.07 12:59:00 -
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It will also not solve the automatic full refund at the 40-45 minute mark. I bet you still can kill all your clones but one and get a full refund if you stretch the battle long enough...
Please clarify CCP or you will be laughed at by this one... |
mollerz
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:02:00 -
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And how about the fatal error?
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DROID EXILES
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:08:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:It will also not solve the automatic full refund at the 40-45 minute mark. I bet you still can kill all your clones but one and get a full refund if you stretch the battle long enough...
Please clarify CCP or you will be laughed at by this one...
In pc if the battle goes that long you get a refund? |
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
5629
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:28:00 -
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I've clarified the patch note about the PC change. it looks for a battle result, which means if you kill all the clones bar one and the battle expires then the attackers lose by default.
So unless someone sees a battle result screen, the defenders win by default.
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Sole Fenychs
Sinq Laison Gendarmes
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:29:00 -
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Havaru Fox wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:
Factional Warfare: Adjusted the battle spawning so that factions will need to spend more time defending their districts proportionally to the number of districts they control
What this means is that as a faction controls a higher percentage of districts in the warzone, it will generate more defense contracts for that faction.
can you please remove the "pick all 4" for people who never played FW before, so you have to select the faktions that you want to fight for? one of the big problems for caldari is that we got A LOT of minmatar and also gallente spawning in basic suits
On that note, it would be nice to have the settings on a per-character basis, instead of being globally enforced. I don't want to change my settings on my Minmatar alt any time I play FW on my Gallente character. |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood
General Tso's Alliance
1216
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:32:00 -
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LP payouts should be based on performance and Faction standings should be based on wins and loses, then more people would play amarr and caldari knowing that as long as they preform well they at least get paid based on their performance not on the preformance of the 8 guys who went a combine 3 - 100 with 300 WP between them.
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Aikuchi Tomaru
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1914
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:36:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I've clarified the patch note about the PC change. it looks for a battle result, which means if you kill all the clones bar one and the battle expires then the attackers lose by default.
So unless someone sees a battle result screen, the defenders win by default.
So one attacker just has to AFK to win the battle? This kinda seems like the AFK-fix. It weakens the problem a bit, but by far doesn't solve it.
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
591
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:42:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:LP payouts should be based on performance and Faction standings should be based on wins and loses, then more people would play amarr and caldari knowing that as long as they preform well they at least get paid based on their performance not on the preformance of the 8 guys who went a combine 3 - 100 with 300 WP between them.
Here's a thought:
Have 2 different LP payouts depending on whether you're attacking or defending. An attack battle would pay more LP than a defend battle.
Before this change, it wouldn't be such a good idea but now that battles will hopefully spawn accordingly so that whoever is currently holding 0% will be attacking most of the time, it would sway people into fighting for that faction.
I also have always been in favor of paying LP according to leaderboard position. As it stands, a guy that AFKs earns the same LP as the guy with most WP at the end of a round.
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Mad Syringe
ReDust Inc.
135
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Posted - 2014.03.07 13:57:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I've clarified the patch note about the PC change. it looks for a battle result, which means if you kill all the clones bar one and the battle expires then the attackers lose by default.
So unless someone sees a battle result screen, the defenders win by default.
Well loosing is not the problem, the refund is the problem. The refund happens before the battle ends. So if you stretch the battle over the 40-45 minute mark, the attacker will get his clone pack refunded.
Can you clarify that the patch prevents this? This might have been overseen since it was a bug anyway, since you would get the refund even if you loose ore kill all clones but one... |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
2847
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:04:00 -
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So basically to stop losing ISK and clones all you do is send in 1 person to complete the battle
How is that going stop PC locking?
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Yagihige
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
593
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:06:00 -
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I've been wondering...
Why does the game have to refund clone packs? Wouldn't it make more sense that if a corp buys a clone pack that corp could hold it in their possession for future use? The way clone packs acquirement is tied to specifically attacking a district is a flaw, imo. You should be able to buy them as items owned by corps.
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Vrain Matari
Mikramurka Shock Troop
Minmatar Republic
1742
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:06:00 -
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Yagihige wrote:stlcarlos989 wrote:LP payouts should be based on performance and Faction standings should be based on wins and loses, then more people would play amarr and caldari knowing that as long as they preform well they at least get paid based on their performance not on the preformance of the 8 guys who went a combine 3 - 100 with 300 WP between them. Here's a thought: Have 2 different LP payouts depending on whether you're attacking or defending. An attack battle would pay more LP than a defend battle. Before this change, it wouldn't be such a good idea but now that battles will hopefully spawn accordingly so that whoever is currently holding 0% will be attacking most of the time, it would sway people into fighting for that faction. I also have always been in favor of paying LP according to leaderboard position. As it stands, a guy that AFKs earns the same LP as the guy with most WP at the end of a round.
+1 guys. This is a good game dynamic, it's immersive and will promote better matches.
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Cross Atu
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
1978
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:10:00 -
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^This
SupportSP Rollover & an improved Recruting System
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Dheez
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
78
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:16:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:So basically to stop losing ISK and clones all you do is send in 1 person to complete the battle
How is that going stop PC locking?
I concur.
Also, how is this going to stop 2 conniving alliances or corporations from creating mock battles in order to lock down districts against real district grabbing incursions by real opponents.
Even if the conniving parties do fight with perceived losses between them they can still reimburse each other with isk. (use cheap kits & loadouts or blueprints) |
Jack Kittinger
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:31:00 -
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Aikuchi Tomaru wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:So unless someone sees a battle result screen, the defenders win by default. So one attacker just has to AFK to win the battle? This kinda seems like the AFK-fix. It weakens the problem a bit, but by far doesn't solve it.
y'know I jjust saw an AFKer spinning endlessly the other day, it used to be whole squads though
I'm not saying "Leave CCP alone they know what they're doing! QQ"
it's more of a "Hey! CCP is just slow and extra speshul so let them work at their own pace and hope for them to put the square peg on the right hole and not sh|t their pants in the meantime and abstain from muttering that dreaded Soon tm next to the words speeder, titan boarding, all racial vehicles"
keep it up CCP you're... not despicable, just frustrating
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Soraya Xel
The Corporate Raiders
Top Men.
1637
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:53:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:Planetary Conquest: Locking a district will now ensure the attacker loses clones and ISK when there is no battle result
This means that if no battle takes place, or if a battle is reverted due to it not being completed, the attackers will lose clones as per a normal loss.
I guess incredibly freaking late is still better than never. About time.
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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
5645
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Posted - 2014.03.07 14:56:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:CCP Logibro wrote:I've clarified the patch note about the PC change. it looks for a battle result, which means if you kill all the clones bar one and the battle expires then the attackers lose by default.
So unless someone sees a battle result screen, the defenders win by default. Well loosing is not the problem, the refund is the problem. The refund happens before the battle ends. So if you stretch the battle over the 40-45 minute mark, the attacker will get his clone pack refunded. Can you clarify that the patch prevents this? This might have been overseen since it was a bug anyway, since you would get the refund even if you loose ore kill all clones but one...
Previously if there was no result, it would refund and reset the district state. Now no result will mean the attackers lose by default, and there will be no refund. Battles will now also terminate before the reinforcement window closes.
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KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution
2213
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Posted - 2014.03.07 15:00:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:I've clarified the patch note about the PC change. it looks for a battle result, which means if you kill all the clones bar one and the battle expires then the attackers lose by default.
So unless someone sees a battle result screen, the defenders win by default.
I still have a feeling that people will be able to lock districts and make a profit.
As a matter of fact I may just have a solution in mind.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
7280
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Posted - 2014.03.07 15:01:00 -
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CCP Logibro wrote:
Factional Warfare: Adjusted the battle spawning so that factions will need to spend more time defending their districts proportionally to the number of districts they control
What this means is that as a faction controls a higher percentage of districts in the warzone, it will generate more defense contracts for that faction.
Been saying this since Uprising 1.4. Glad to see you guys finally got around to it!
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