The Plasma Cannon

Pretty concerned about the grenade nerf to be honest, I am currently seeing allot of heavies driving round in LAV's jumping out a few feet away from people and trying to kill them then jumping back in and driving off. Currently with the speed of LAV's and how bad swarms are, swarms are no good at taking them out (if they bother to fit the LAV) forgeguns can still hurt LAV's, Plasma cannons, well I can hit LAV's with them but its not particularly effective. So at the moment the best form of defense against a LAV is AV nades and it currently takes 3 packed ADV to take out one unfitted MLT LAV in 1.8 you will only be able to carry 2.

1.8 is going to be lots of heavies driving round in LAV's as the only thing that can really worry them is a tank.

If the Shotgun had been buffed we would have had a true Rock Paper Scissors situation:

Heavy (Rock) kills Medium (Scissors)
Medium (Scissors) kills Light (Paper)
Light (Paper) kills Heavy (Rock)

Two out of threeGÇÖs not bad... for the Heavy.

Looks like someone is butt hurt. I remember shooting your ass with my HMG. Hahahah that stupid CR is no more. I warned all you CR n00bs and now Im happy.
Deal with it.

Changes to proficiency and damage mods is a perfect start to actually help fine tune weapons. CCP will be able to gather true data. It just is going to suck for awhile for some weapons, but CCP will see that and fix them. I just wish they hotfixed more often, that would help ease some of the pain.

This game with so many damage increases available got in the way and makes it hard to balance upon. I see many of the 1.8 fixes as a breaking the game back down to simpler blocks, to improve the foundation.

The big question how many of us will take the pain for another 3 or 4 month of a completely broken game balancing wise?

Magsec SMG, Bolt Pistol and Ion Pistol? Yes, they are coming with Uprising 1.8 together with tweaked TTK, buffs and other changes to DUST 514's weaponry! Read the full dev blog right here, and feel free to give us your feedback in this very thread!

and the scrambler rifle is still the most overpowered weapon in the game get your stuff together ccp

That's funny cuz I have f&cking idea who you are.

That's why the Heavy's turning speed should be decreased, to give shotties a chance to evade.

I am going into HAVs

not too bad with the weapon nerfs, lets face it we knew it had to happen.
don't really understand the point of making new weapons that are pre nerfed and absolutely the worst weapons on the game

damage mods are ok but the complex mods should be 7% or the stacking penalty should be removed the foremost being the most balanced. there won't be enough of an increase between complex and advanced levels given the sp multiplier, unless all levels are equal sp. also seems to be yet another stealth nerf against snipers, thanks.


tanks are still going to be a huge problem, in a game with 16v16 having 4 tanks on each side is not fun for infantry.

in my heavy role all I will say is
as my sniper I will reserve judgement for now in the hope that the vs armour boost will help and that mods nerf wont be too bad but as far as I can see I should expect in pub matches medium suits will be 2-3 shots and heavies will be 4-5 and pc will be ridiculous given the need to waste extra bullets against shields.

1 small idea about sniper rifle, give them a buff so that proto rifles can kill proto fits with one shots to the head but only to the head. but make proto sniper rifles Very expensive 1 mill isk+ that way snipers wont want to waste their proto rifles in regular pub matches

also some charge type rifles in loyalty points and lower tiers

CCP, it should only take two infantry of AV skill investment equal to the tanker to kill a tank. No more.

I'm pretty sure there are 5 tanks allowed on the field. That outnumbers the resources 16 infantry could possibly need to take those tanks out.

So many people will quit this game if you don't fix AV in 1.8 it's not even funny. Tanks are what is hurting Dust the most right now.

Review :

I don't really read all the numbers of the three new secondary weapons, i just hope Caldari Tech DON'T have the same DPS thant the others, ranged weapons should have a lower DPS since they have more range.
"They have less RoF" => If at the end they have the same DPS then RoF don't really count.


I've seen the nerf of all "OP" weapons, nice job.
Hard nerf for RR and CR (They deserved it.)
Soft nerf for ScR and AR.
=> Really Nice

Nerf of damagers => Nice, people don't understand than now their "proficiency" has gone, it's the ONLY way to increase firepower, so 5% is HIIIIIIGH. Since there's no other Passive skills to increase raw damage (Exepting Commandos which makes them REALLY intresting for 1.8)




NOW the huge problem.

1- Mass Driver Buff, WHAT THE HELL ??????
It seems CCP forgot they were totally OP before hit detection issues and was not nerfed.
They were underdog ONLY when facing Rifles. Now that Rifles are nerfed WHY did they get buffed ?????
Turn back CCP before it's too late. I'm an Mass driver user since Chromosome.
This is will be the begin of HELL.

2- Proficiency that affect Armor and Shield, okay nice seems a good idea BUT it's absolutely NOT balanced !!!!!!!!!!
I mean shield is rarely over 400ehp. Extender re way lower than Armor plates.
While armor is about 1000ehp.
Giving bonus to armor piercing means giving a damage boost to kill 1000ehp.
Giving a bonus to kill shield means a bonus for ONLY 400ehp.....

For an Anti-armor weapons it's really easy to cut down the shield since they are pretty low and then TOTALLY destroy the armor with their heavy bonus to armor.

For an Anti-Shield Weapons, they will destroy the shield easily but...THEN ? There's still 80% of the target ehp.
And they receive high penality to cut down these armor ehp....

Anti-Shield weapons will become totally useless and totally less powerful overall exepting against Caldari.
=> AR / SCR / LR.......
But a flux would do the same afterall since you can't dodge it.



Anyway GREAT Dev blog and overall really good things.
(Could we have the range numbers, a graphic for Laser Rifles range please ?)

Wtf?
1000 armor?
Try 500.

It's not even possible to have 1000 armor on a Gallente Assault suit.

But you can have > 1000 eHP. PROOF

Uhh...
You might want to look at the speed.
It's also unsustainable, as it has no regen/very poor regen come 1.8.
Repair hives are unreliable (can get destroyed, are limited in numers, etc') and their clusters and HP are getting nerfed.
Logi support requires team work, and killing the logi means killing the armor tanker.

Does anyone remember when Uprising came out and there was a 10% reduction to all damage. It was horrible and they buffed the damage up 10%! now they plan on dropping it back 10~20 percent again plus the aditional 50% nerf to complex damage mods. Just can't imagine what is going on upstairs at CCP. Don't you remember the TTK from then.. it was bad.