Not trying to insult. Honest suggestion: instead of quitting, hide from proto stompers and encourage the team to do the same - give them an empty game of redline sniping. Let them waste 10 min to get 20 kills. Action, not words.

I'm not attacking friendship I'm just acknowledging that having fun with 5 friends is better than being bored with 11.

So would you agree this would be solved by bringing back corp battles or at least a game mode that allows synced squads to go against synced squads?

I'm not arguing against teamwork, as I constantly join squads every match I play. It's why I continue to play this game. People need to read my posts to get a better idea of what I am trying to get at with this whole thread. This thread isn't a statement that "teamwork = bad" it's a question of the form "is there another reason why people try to get past the matchmaking system and stack the deck in their favor?"

This might be a stretch but I've been trying to think of an analogy that might be helpful in outlining why I don't think syncing into pub matches is good in generalGǪ

Consider, hypothetically, that one could conjoin the squad chats in a battle through a mechanic similar to syncing squads as it currently stands. What I mean is that if the squad leaders of the squads coordinated a second action while trying to sync into battle, they could actually merge the squad chats into one chat. I know you must all be thinking "TEAM CHAT" but what I'm describing would eliminate the possibility for spare blueberries to chime in.

Now consider as a consequence of this strategy, the matchmaking would consistently glitch to make the enemy side a collection of solo players, not coming in from a squad. Basically what I mean is that to get combined squad chat, you also force the enemy team to be composed of solo players.

Would the argument that "we're just here to play with our buds" cover up the clear advantage in the matchmaking? I know this isn't exactly the same thing but what I'm trying to figure out is whether or not people are willing to accept a guaranteed advantage from the matchmaking vs. a probable advantage under the name of "playing with friends". Further, if this could be done, would the people exploiting the mechanic be at fault in any way or would their integrity suffer in any way as a Dust player?

I think that if syncing somehow put players at a disadvantage then, IN GENERAL, they wouldn't be so quick to sync. Instead it's backwards which makes it very convenient for anyone who just likes to "play with their friends". I think that if a new game mode was added like corp battles and this matchmaking imbalance is then removed, we'd still see the minority/majority (not sure which) of those players who sync in pubs for the easy win, who use "playing with friends" as an excuse, still playing syncing in pubs.

Thoughts?

You're super observant. You moist bro?

But the game is boring either way. I think for a good majority of our corp, the only thing that draws us in to play is our corpmates. The game itself is terrible, regardless if you're playing solo, or with 11 other people. However, it's free and it's a game every member of Subdreddit owns. So, it's boring with 6, it's boring with 11... unless you go out of your way to make it fun. One of the easiest ways to make it fun is to have a lot of guys on comms hanging out. Then it doesn't matter what's happening in the match, because you're there to hangout... the shooty-face is just something to do.

If this was already a great game, with awesome mechanics, good gameplay balance, interesting game modes, and a high level of competitiveness then you might have a point. It's none of those things. It's a janky, half finished, unbalanced, laggy, glitchy, mess of a game, and the thing keeping it on life support are the people who keep coming back and supporting it, regardless of how terrible it is. For many of us, the reason to come is the corporation system and the Voice Chat features.

I'd personally be fine with the idea of a separate queue for team deploy, but honestly I think it would do more harm than good. Players should be heavily encouraged to take advantage and participate in the backbone of the game(corporations), and if a new player never sees corporations exist because they're just queueing up against other lonewolves and all the corps are off playing by themselves, then those new players are going to miss out on the only redeeming quality of the game. Of course, I also think the corporation aspects of the game need to be highlighted much more clearly to new players as well. There should be unavoidable info graphic pages when you log in that show you what corps are gaining the most LP, which corps are taking and losing districts, "hot" corps that are gaining lots of members, etc. It's a real disservice to the game that CCP doesn't do a better job leveraging corporations.

I agree with everything you're saying about corps and CCP. I disagree that the game is boring but I can see where it's losing it's fun factors. I can understand then that if people are legitimately that bored with this game then syncing would make it less ******. The only other thing I guess I have to add is that I don't think that the game mode would do more harm. New players see corp names alongside names of players multiple times per match and in squad finders and just about everywhere else in the game. CCP should be encouraging players to look into corps but I don't think that only being able to see 6 of them in a squad would prevent them from noticing corps.

Either way, I would have to say if that's why you're syncing then I can get behind that. The idea is to have fun and if the game is that bad, at least you can still support it and have fun with syncing.

Hats off to you and your corp then, sir. I'd prefer players stick around to keep this game going even if they are here destroying me haha.