DUST Search - Yet again, infantry deciding the fate of tanks

BAD FURRY wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

This is why vehicles and AV are always in such a state of flux, CCP. You listen to mainline infantry, without talking to the pilots. And by that, I mean a lot of us. Get dedicated dropship and tank pilots, not just one dropship pilot who happens to hate railguns.

Stop listening to infantry 99% of the time, with that 1% being one person. One person does make a consensus. That one person cannot speak for all pilots.

Infantry, what gives you the right to decide our fate? We don't care what you do, we don't tell you how to fit your suits, or when you can use certain suits. We tell you how to destroy us in an easy way, yet you all completely ignore it, and continue to bash your heads against a brick wall, then get on here and complain when you can't destroy us.

The time I've seen people launching MLT swarms at my Gunnlogi is staggering. It's the same with people firing their ARs and throwing locus grenades at my tanks. My Madrugar gets fluxed, and all I can do is laugh because a Madrugar is an armor tank.

Stop throwing insane ideas at us. We'll stop throwing insane ideas back.

rail guns the maps falt ccp needs bigger maps so red line rails cant shoot into the other red line

as for infantry what you have said is so true

most scrub players come from games where the only thing you have to a tank was a guy with more hp then ever one els and all you had to do was put one more round into him then the other ones

thay come to this game see and tank think Any AV will be fine ! and in ONE clip kill it !
but for get about SP
there ROF DMG they you there fittings on there suit
week spots on the tank can the tank see or hit them ?
is the tank in the open or a closed space ?
can they trap the tanks ?

they forget so must and just run at the thing like if they where playing Duke nukem and die its so sad that they rage about there noob skills and come on to the forums to cry and try to mess up the game to have a COD rip off game they just came from and will just leave this game in 4 months to play a new COD as dust falls into hell do to there poor skills and never ending crys about anything that kills them !

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Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1825	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:34:00 - [1] - Quote This is why vehicles and AV are always in such a state of flux, CCP. You listen to mainline infantry, without talking to the pilots. And by that, I mean a lot of us. Get dedicated dropship and tank pilots, not just one dropship pilot who happens to hate railguns. Stop listening to infantry 99% of the time, with that 1% being one person. One person does make a consensus. That one person cannot speak for all pilots. Infantry, what gives you the right to decide our fate? We don't care what you do, we don't tell you how to fit your suits, or when you can use certain suits. We tell you how to destroy us in an easy way, yet you all completely ignore it, and continue to bash your heads against a brick wall, then get on here and complain when you can't destroy us. The time I've seen people launching MLT swarms at my Gunnlogi is staggering. It's the same with people firing their ARs and throwing locus grenades at my tanks. My Madrugar gets fluxed, and all I can do is laugh because a Madrugar is an armor tank. Stop throwing insane ideas at us. We'll stop throwing insane ideas back. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 9504	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:36:00 - [2] - Quote What gives tankers the right to decide the fate of infantry? Because that's exactly what they're doing now. Practically every match comes down to who spams the most tanks. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
buzzzzzzz killllllllll TRA1LBLAZERS 293	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:38:00 - [3] - Quote That would make sense if havs could not touch infantry and vice versa, but right now the state of vehicles affects the state of infantry, so infantry should have a say. Btw, ive been a pilot since the start of when tanks where absolute ****, still am with 8 mil sp in it, as well as proto forge, adv res and nades, and there is no balance and it is unfair to the infantry. Stop trying to save the OP winmachines, you just sound stupid
Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 2245	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:41:00 - [4] - Quote I've seen maybe 2 or 3 tankers actually talk about tank and vehicle balance. You and Taka however...not once have I seen you two even try to talk about balance. You've actually said "Too bad, AV was OP now tanks get to be OP HAHAHAHA" Ok, I added the "HAHAHHA" part. But that is basically what you have been saying for the past 2 months. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4224	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:41:00 - [5] - Quote Better than listening to you! The same guy that would get rid of all AV weaponry if he could, the same guy that thinks that we need to make maps more vehicle friendly, the same guy that made a thread complaining a guy killed him with a swarm launcher! So no Spark, you're getting your *** nerfed whether you like it or not and I'm coming for when Swarms are buffed. Suck it. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V. 91	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:42:00 - [6] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What gives tankers the right to decide the fate of infantry? Because that's exactly what they're doing now. Practically every match comes down to who spams the most tanks. Hav cap per team, simple....
Darken-Soul BIG BAD W0LVES 690	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:42:00 - [7] - Quote There is no arguing with this fool. Spkr has something wrong with his brain. It only allows him to think from a cockpit. There are no other roles. Nobody else deserves to enjoy the game. Who wants some?
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1827	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:45:00 - [8] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What gives tankers the right to decide the fate of infantry? Because that's exactly what they're doing now. Practically every match comes down to who spams the most tanks. LOL That's in the game. I'm referring to infantry deciding how tanks are going to be fit, how many may be deployed, what turrets they can use, how much they cost, how many people it will require to use one, as well as now wanting the recall feature to be removed. What else did I miss? I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1827	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:46:00 - [9] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: I've seen maybe 2 or 3 tankers actually talk about tank and vehicle balance. You and Taka however...not once have I seen you two even try to talk about balance. You've actually said "Too bad, AV was OP now tanks get to be OP HAHAHAHA" Ok, I added the "HAHAHHA" part. But that is basically what you have been saying for the past 2 months. Because infantry can only have it their way, and if it's not their way, then it's wrong. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 554	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:46:00 - [10] - Quote Spkr4theDead: making Andrew Wiggin look the fool. CCP your matchmaking sucks Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles

Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1827	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:46:00 - [11] - Quote ALT2 acc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What gives tankers the right to decide the fate of infantry? Because that's exactly what they're doing now. Practically every match comes down to who spams the most tanks. Hav cap per team, simple.... PRO suit cap per team, simple. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4224	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:47:00 - [12] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: I've seen maybe 2 or 3 tankers actually talk about tank and vehicle balance. You and Taka however...not once have I seen you two even try to talk about balance. You've actually said "Too bad, AV was OP now tanks get to be OP HAHAHAHA" Ok, I added the "HAHAHHA" part. But that is basically what you have been saying for the past 2 months. Because infantry can only have it their way, and if it's not their way, then it's wrong. You are the biggest hypocrite on the forums. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 351	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:47:00 - [13] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Get dedicated dropship and tank pilots, not just one dropship pilot who happens to hate railguns. I stopped reading after this. If you are referring to Judge Rhadamanthus (who I assume you are) then you are a moron who is talking out of his arse and you've never actually read/listened to what Judge types/says. He has quite clearly stated his position in several formats and in several places and speaks with the support of many dropship pilots (due to his reasoned and thought out ideas and opinions) about how the redline is the true issue. Railguns are not balanced right now, because of many things, but primarily it is the redline that breaks it: a railgun out of the redline is a deadly threat to a dropship, but it is a fight and not a certain thing for either side whereas a railgun in the redline is a completely one-sided battle. Shut up Spkr. [/judgefanboypost]
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1827	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:47:00 - [14] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Better than listening to you! The same guy that would get rid of all AV weaponry if he could, the same guy that thinks that we need to make maps more vehicle friendly, the same guy that made a thread complaining a guy killed him with a swarm launcher! So no Spark, you're getting your *** nerfed whether you like it or not and I'm coming for when Swarms are buffed. Suck it. They said they were looking at MLT, not STD. I don't use MLT, so that's not going to affect me. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
Ayures II Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 503	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:48:00 - [15] - Quote FWOOSH https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTO9zm_i9hHCL12EeePXciRGJieEh8Ft369A8rBkNttRfWFJ74QGc2FN352
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V. 91	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:48:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: ALT2 acc wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What gives tankers the right to decide the fate of infantry? Because that's exactly what they're doing now. Practically every match comes down to who spams the most tanks. Hav cap per team, simple.... PRO suit cap per team, simple. Exept tanks are a bigger problem when spammed.... And fix matchmaking to fix proto....
Henchmen21 Planet Express LLC 554	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:48:00 - [17] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What gives tankers the right to decide the fate of infantry? Because that's exactly what they're doing now. Practically every match comes down to who spams the most tanks. LOL That's in the game. I'm referring to infantry deciding how tanks are going to be fit, how many may be deployed, what turrets they can use, how much they cost, how many people it will require to use one, as well as now wanting the recall feature to be removed. What else did I miss? Infantry get a say because they are the ones getting steamrolled by 80k militia blasters from 200+ meters away. CCP your matchmaking sucks Henchmen21: Infantry Gotyougood Ufkr: Vehicles
Spkr4theDead Red Star. EoN. 1827	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:48:00 - [18] - Quote Kallas Hallytyr wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Get dedicated dropship and tank pilots, not just one dropship pilot who happens to hate railguns. I stopped reading after this. If you are referring to Judge Rhadamanthus (who I assume you are) then you are a moron who is talking out of his arse and you've never actually read/listened to what Judge types/says. He has quite clearly stated his position in several formats and in several places and speaks with the support of many dropship pilots (due to his reasoned and thought out ideas and opinions) about how the redline is the true issue. Railguns are not balanced right now, because of many things, but primarily it is the redline that breaks it: a railgun out of the redline is a deadly threat to a dropship, but it is a fight and not a certain thing for either side whereas a railgun in the redline is a completely one-sided battle. Shut up Spkr. [/judgefanboypost] Keep brown nosing him, I bet he loves the sensation. I may be missing something, but I'm pretty sure that I didn't call for a tank nerf before Uprising 1.7. - Atiim
ALT2 acc The Phoenix Federation Proficiency V. 93	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:50:00 - [19] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: What gives tankers the right to decide the fate of infantry? Because that's exactly what they're doing now. Practically every match comes down to who spams the most tanks. LOL That's in the game. I'm referring to infantry deciding how tanks are going to be fit, how many may be deployed, what turrets they can use, how much they cost, how many people it will require to use one, as well as now wanting the recall feature to be removed. What else did I miss? Infantry get a say because they are the ones getting steamrolled by 80k militia blasters from 200+ meters away. Hav cap of 2 or 3 and a big blaster range nerf
Aikuchi Tomaru Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1791	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:50:00 - [20] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: This is why vehicles and AV are always in such a state of flux, CCP. You listen to mainline infantry, without talking to the pilots. And by that, I mean a lot of us. Get dedicated dropship and tank pilots, not just one dropship pilot who happens to hate railguns. Stop listening to infantry 99% of the time, with that 1% being one person. One person does make a consensus. That one person cannot speak for all pilots. Infantry, what gives you the right to decide our fate? We don't care what you do, we don't tell you how to fit your suits, or when you can use certain suits. We tell you how to destroy us in an easy way, yet you all completely ignore it, and continue to bash your heads against a brick wall, then get on here and complain when you can't destroy us. The time I've seen people launching MLT swarms at my Gunnlogi is staggering. It's the same with people firing their ARs and throwing locus grenades at my tanks. My Madrugar gets fluxed, and all I can do is laugh because a Madrugar is an armor tank. Stop throwing insane ideas at us. We'll stop throwing insane ideas back. SO it was INfantry who wanted tanks to become as OP as they are now? Sign up for Caldari FW and defeat the evil Gallente Overlords!

Awry Barux New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 626	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:51:00 - [21] - Quote Henchmen21 wrote: Spkr4theDead: making Andrew Wiggin look the fool. Seriously. He's sullying the name.
Ryme Intrinseca Fatal Absolution 714	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:51:00 - [22] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: This is why vehicles and AV are always in such a state of flux, CCP. You listen to mainline infantry, without talking to the pilots. And by that, I mean a lot of us. Get dedicated dropship and tank pilots, not just one dropship pilot who happens to hate railguns. Stop listening to infantry 99% of the time, with that 1% being one person. One person does make a consensus. That one person cannot speak for all pilots. Infantry, what gives you the right to decide our fate? We don't care what you do, we don't tell you how to fit your suits, or when you can use certain suits. We tell you how to destroy us in an easy way, yet you all completely ignore it, and continue to bash your heads against a brick wall, then get on here and complain when you can't destroy us. The time I've seen people launching MLT swarms at my Gunnlogi is staggering. It's the same with people firing their ARs and throwing locus grenades at my tanks. My Madrugar gets fluxed, and all I can do is laugh because a Madrugar is an armor tank. Stop throwing insane ideas at us. We'll stop throwing insane ideas back. Translation: NEED MOAR GODMODEZ!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111111111111111
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 356	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:51:00 - [23] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Keep brown nosing him, I bet he loves the sensation. Missed the point did you? Don't want to face any vague semblance of reality? Fair enough. Just go take it away from here.
BAD FURRY SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 504	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:52:00 - [24] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: This is why vehicles and AV are always in such a state of flux, CCP. You listen to mainline infantry, without talking to the pilots. And by that, I mean a lot of us. Get dedicated dropship and tank pilots, not just one dropship pilot who happens to hate railguns. Stop listening to infantry 99% of the time, with that 1% being one person. One person does make a consensus. That one person cannot speak for all pilots. Infantry, what gives you the right to decide our fate? We don't care what you do, we don't tell you how to fit your suits, or when you can use certain suits. We tell you how to destroy us in an easy way, yet you all completely ignore it, and continue to bash your heads against a brick wall, then get on here and complain when you can't destroy us. The time I've seen people launching MLT swarms at my Gunnlogi is staggering. It's the same with people firing their ARs and throwing locus grenades at my tanks. My Madrugar gets fluxed, and all I can do is laugh because a Madrugar is an armor tank. Stop throwing insane ideas at us. We'll stop throwing insane ideas back. rail guns the maps falt ccp needs bigger maps so red line rails cant shoot into the other red line as for infantry what you have said is so true most scrub players come from games where the only thing you have to a tank was a guy with more hp then ever one els and all you had to do was put one more round into him then the other ones thay come to this game see and tank think Any AV will be fine ! and in ONE clip kill it ! but for get about SP there ROF DMG they you there fittings on there suit week spots on the tank can the tank see or hit them ? is the tank in the open or a closed space ? can they trap the tanks ? they forget so must and just run at the thing like if they where playing Duke nukem and die its so sad that they rage about there noob skills and come on to the forums to cry and try to mess up the game to have a COD rip off game they just came from and will just leave this game in 4 months to play a new COD as dust falls into hell do to there poor skills and never ending crys about anything that kills them ! Yes i am a Undead Hell Wolf ... nice to meat you!
Berserker007 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 409	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:52:00 - [25] - Quote He is just upset that after all this time he is still a 3rd rate tanker
Sextus Hardcock 0uter.Heaven 272	Posted - 2014.02.15 20:59:00 - [26] - Quote BAD FURRY wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: This is why vehicles and AV are always in such a state of flux, CCP. You listen to mainline infantry, without talking to the pilots. And by that, I mean a lot of us. Get dedicated dropship and tank pilots, not just one dropship pilot who happens to hate railguns. Stop listening to infantry 99% of the time, with that 1% being one person. One person does make a consensus. That one person cannot speak for all pilots. Infantry, what gives you the right to decide our fate? We don't care what you do, we don't tell you how to fit your suits, or when you can use certain suits. We tell you how to destroy us in an easy way, yet you all completely ignore it, and continue to bash your heads against a brick wall, then get on here and complain when you can't destroy us. The time I've seen people launching MLT swarms at my Gunnlogi is staggering. It's the same with people firing their ARs and throwing locus grenades at my tanks. My Madrugar gets fluxed, and all I can do is laugh because a Madrugar is an armor tank. Stop throwing insane ideas at us. We'll stop throwing insane ideas back. rail guns the maps falt ccp needs bigger maps so red line rails cant shoot into the other red line as for infantry what you have said is so true most scrub players come from games where the only thing you have to a tank was a guy with more hp then ever one els and all you had to do was put one more round into him then the other ones thay come to this game see and tank think Any AV will be fine ! and in ONE clip kill it ! but for get about SP there ROF DMG they you there fittings on there suit week spots on the tank can the tank see or hit them ? is the tank in the open or a closed space ? can they trap the tanks ? they forget so must and just run at the thing like if they where playing Duke nukem and die its so sad that they rage about there noob skills and come on to the forums to cry and try to mess up the game to have a COD rip off game they just came from and will just leave this game in 4 months to play a new COD as dust falls into hell do to there poor skills and never ending crys about anything that kills them ! Well there are plenty of us who have been playing this game a long time, with intelligent and balanced perspectives on what is, and isn't good for the playability of this game. If you look at any random infantry and see the above (COD Duke Nukem etc etc...) no wonder you come across as nearly insane. Acknowledge that the situation is largely one sided for tanks, look for solutions that the entire community can mostly agree on, and see things improved. Or continue to bleet that everything is fine and wait for the massive nerfhammer to crush your beloved tanks. The writing is on the wall, they will get nerfed. Be a part of the solution. I am the sixth son Chrome Vet
R F Gyro Clones 4u 1175	Posted - 2014.02.15 21:03:00 - [27] - Quote So, I normally play Minmatar logi. I would like Minmatar logi suits to get a 10,000% bonus to swarm launcher damage. You, not being Minmatar logi, have no right to argue against this. RF Gyro: 12.5% damage bonus; 10.5% rate of fire bonus
PARKOUR PRACTIONER Reapers' Assailant 678	Posted - 2014.02.15 21:04:00 - [28] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: LOL That's in the game. I'm referring to infantry deciding how tanks are going to be fit, how many may be deployed, what turrets they can use, how much they cost, how many people it will require to use one, as well as now wanting the recall feature to be removed. What else did I miss? That I like placing remotes on your tank. Psycho Explosives are my thing, and knives Give me parkour and Bow&Arrows CCP
Horizen Kenpachi Kenpachi's Castle 172	Posted - 2014.02.15 21:16:00 - [29] - Quote Speaker4thelol hahaha u rock if i hadnt read ur other post id think ur a troll what u said is along the lines of murders should decide their own sentance and ur killing me enjoyed killing ur boyfriend the other day ur next say high to the dead speaker of the dread. Balance comes from compromise of all roles in this game not you and ur lolable post. From a tanker pre 1.7 Hit me with your nerf bat.
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p TRA1LBLAZERS 606	Posted - 2014.02.15 21:23:00 - [30] - Quote Spkr4theDead, while commenting on his blatant trolling wrote: FEEEEEEEED MEEEEE MOOOOOOREEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!



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