Where's the link for the 1.8 Assault bonuses?

Thr caldari bonus is loads of useless, if I wanted less reload I'd go commando or get the reload skill, I never have reload issurs, EVER

I dont play cal assault to be 60m away from anything, tyvm, I do it for regen and shield tankyness, reload is USELESS, I can spec reload skills, and reloads arent that long

Uhm...I dont have it right now...

Anybody?

OKAY OKAY! Since you asked so nicely...this is what we're thinking.

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: +5% to reload speed of hybrid railgun light/sidearm weapons per level.
- Gallente Assault: 5% reduction to hybrid - blaster light/sidearm hip-fire dispersion and kick per level.
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.

Logistics [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of equipment]
- Caldari Logistics: +10% to nanohive max. nanites and +5% to supply rate and repair amount per level.
- Gallente Logistics: +10% to active scanner visibility duration and +5% to active scanner precision per level.
- Minmatar Logistics: +10% to repair tool range and 5% to repair amount per level.
- Amarr Logistics: 10% reduction to drop uplink spawn time and +2 to max. spawn count per level.

Will copy + paste this in to the Feedback thread too.

Thank you. I think I might not have explained that well enough, but that's essentially what I meant.

Assaults get in there, agitate the opposition, but don't really "tank" anything. At least, that's the idea. 1.7 isn't really played that way.

I stopped stacking extenders and instead put on a couple regulators and rechargers and suddenly people had a LOT more problems engaging me without running into the brick wall that was my team (or a smart Sentinel).

If you engage a stronger opponent and take damage, just break line of sight to recharge shield or repair armor just enough to re-engage finish him off. Being an assault is about strategically choosing your opponents and causing the most team-wide damage as possible.

Assaults are the ripples that turn into waves on the battlefield.

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: 10% Shield regulator effectiveness per level
- Gallente Assault: 10% Armor Repairer effectiveness per level
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.

I like these bonuses and actually think they would be well balanced.

+1

I personally thank you for all the effort CCP is doing in getting the Dropsuits right.
Now it seems every time you ''redo'' something you leave some players not convinced.

LEt me make your JOB EASIER and give you the formula for ASSAULT Success.

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: 10% Shield regulator effectiveness per level
- Gallente Assault: 10% Armor Repairer effectiveness per level
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.


These are bonuses EVERYONE will be happy to have in their assault and will give these med frames offensive/defensive advantages over their opponents.

Either the ones i proposed or GIVE all of them Weapon specific bonuses like the Amarr and Minmatar ones.

TY for reading

Second fallacy with these newer bonuses, they require a module to work verses the two other races.

Yes, but Amarr and Minmatar bonuses require specific weapons to work. I don't see that as a problem.

Edit: Furthermore, I seriously doubt you'll see many (if any) Caldari and Gallente Assaults not using those modules anyway.

Pretty sure he's just saying some of the same things I've being saying - one of the best ways to make assaults good at their job is to make them able to keep pressure up - either with more shots on target or with more ability to recover hit points independent of other players without being supremely tanky. The only restriction that might be necessary is to outright disallow 'assault suits' the ability to equip nanite injectors.

One could argue the cal and gal bonuses are 4x more powerful than amarr and minmatar.

I personally thank you for all the effort CCP is doing in getting the Dropsuits right.
Now it seems every time you ''redo'' something you leave some players not convinced.

LEt me make your JOB EASIER and give you the formula for ASSAULT Success.

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: 10% Shield regulator effectiveness per level
- Gallente Assault: 10% Armor Repairer effectiveness per level
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.


These are bonuses EVERYONE will be happy to have in their assault and will give these med frames offensive/defensive advantages over their opponents.

Either the ones i proposed or GIVE all of them Weapon specific bonuses like the Amarr and Minmatar ones.

TY for reading

these bonuses are only good for PROTO, what about the other 99% of players? unless proto suits only cost 10k now and not a whole matches earnings....

How good will you be in combat if you're dead.

Choosing Commando over Assault is making a very large decision that isn't just about reload, and if you want to play Commando in an "assault" role then you're playing incredibly inefficiently. Movement speed and equipment slot differences are obvious reasons.

And not only this, but TTK in 1.7 is incredibly low. It is being raised (and Rail Rifle is getting tweaked or nerfed) and all weapons/suits seem to be getting adjusted for 1.8. 1.7 logic will not work with 1.8.

Reload skill PLUS reload bonus makes for (if other people's math is to believed) the second fastest reloaded light weapon in the game. Caldari Assault/Logistics suits aren't (nor were they ever) designed to be frontline tanks. Problems with global damage, lack of racial parity and Shield Extenders allowed Caldari soldiers to tank in a way CCP never intended. Notice how shield stacking became much less effective after Scrambler rifle came out, then was further nerfed with negative stats connected to extenders?

Even the Caldari's weapon is designed and intended for mid-range engagements (because of it's slower rate of fire, but higher damage and accuracy with an impressive zoom). Longer ranges = more damage dropoff which means more ammunition needed to get the same results. If you're playing Caldari the way they're supposed to be played then you're going to be reloading more often than most people. That's just the way of it.

Caldari are intended (and designed) to be engaging enemies at longer ranges than the other races. Because of these indended ranges, Caldari have better shielding but less armor (shields replenish faster than armor so "hit and move" gamplay is favored), and have a weapon better suited to longer ranges (accurate, high damage with lower RoF to make controlling recoil more skillful and a respectable zoom with very good clarity and dot sight). With an incredible reload that means you will be better at engaging enemies at ranges that will put them at a significant disadvantage and will be able to keep them at that range because you will have incredibly low downtime between magazines


If a Caldari Assault with cover & a Rail Rifle manages to catch you out in the open at a respectable distance you might as well take a bite of your grenade because it is highly unlikely you will get to your destination without re-routing to the Caldari and/or dying in the process. He or she will likely not only be able to do more damage than you more accurately, but will also be able to recharge any damage you do to them faster (due to you doing reduced damage thanks to range) to top off their superior shields, and reload before you get anywhere near their position to finish you off.

And this is only a 1v1 scenario. A smart Caldari doesn't run & gun, but instead stays near their team to pick off enemies trying to flank or retreat. Good luck fighting back in those situations.

I personally thank you for all the effort CCP is doing in getting the Dropsuits right.
Now it seems every time you ''redo'' something you leave some players not convinced.

LEt me make your JOB EASIER and give you the formula for ASSAULT Success.

Assault [5% reduction to PG/CPU cost of light/sidearm weapons]
- Caldari Assault: 10% Shield regulator effectiveness per level
- Gallente Assault: 10% Armor Repairer effectiveness per level
- Minmatar Assault: +5% to projectile light/sidearm and +1 to Minmatar explosive weaponry clip size per level.
- Amarr Assault: 5% reduction to laser weaponry heat build-up per level.


These are bonuses EVERYONE will be happy to have in their assault and will give these med frames offensive/defensive advantages over their opponents.

Either the ones i proposed or GIVE all of them Weapon specific bonuses like the Amarr and Minmatar ones.

TY for reading

Yes let's make a Tank bonus on a DPS class...

It's funny to see nothing but people who run logi suit's have massive opinions on assault suits that have been obsolete since 1.2...

Instead of having glass cannon DPS suits running around to balance the game we are gonna have a brick tanked very specialized class and in almost every circumstance except highly specialized ones be inferior.

These changes will kill the entire competitive aspect of the Assault class.

We went from a DPS bonus ON A DPS CLASS that well over 60% of the community AGREED on to the same bonuses that where offered to us on the assault's in the Chromosome Dev blogs on Uprising launch...

Either you people like being sold on the exact same that has never made the class competitive. Or you think brick tanking a DPS class is a good thing and really have been playing this messed up version of DUST for way to long.

Bye Bye Assault suits for anything but Pubs... Cuz you certainly won;t be competitive in the new DUST.

All Hail Scout and Heavy 514 in 1.8