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stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1072	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:18:00 - [1] - Quote Am I the only one who thinks this? STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
N1ck Comeau Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 1963	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:18:00 - [2] - Quote Heavies with light weapons is such a crutch. Minmatar Assault. Hopeful Caldari Scout soon. praying for that respec.
DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 3866	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:21:00 - [3] - Quote No, no they should not. It has been possible since always. What is wrong now? My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
TranquilBiscuit ofVaLoR F.T.U. IMMORTAL REGIME 1369	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:21:00 - [4] - Quote no, you're not. it's too often that you see MLT heavy frames with proto rifles. but there is only 1 anti infantry heavy weapon, and using 1 weapon would get old for anyone. i won't lie though. it's much easier to knife or shotgun a heavy with a rifle than one with a HMG. Anime > EVERYTHING
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6480	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:22:00 - [5] - Quote N1ck Comeau wrote: Heavies with light weapons is such a crutch. calling the 2nd most UP suit a crutch......yup.... "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1309	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:23:00 - [6] - Quote If there was a variety of heavy weapons this wouldn't be a problem. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1072	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:25:00 - [7] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No, no they should not. It has been possible since always. What is wrong now? I can't put a damage mod in a low slot so why a light weapon in the heavy slot? Why not make it a "W" slot since any weapon can fit into it, not to mention it would make the commando more appealing. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6325	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:26:00 - [8] - Quote Heavies have been able to use light weapons since the beginning of Dust 514, why are the QQers only just now coming out in force? It's fine. ARC Commander CPM Info and Q&A - Status: Open
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1072	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:27:00 - [9] - Quote True Adamance wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Heavies with light weapons is such a crutch. calling the 2nd most UP suit a crutch......yup.... Lets a couple of plates and core HP skills, 1500 EHP with a weapon doing 600 DPS at over 80m yeah that UP STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
Lynn Beck Granite Mercenary Division Top Men. 643	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:29:00 - [10] - Quote A heavy suit is the only frame capable of wielding a Heavy weapon due to power constraints. That's like saying a Ford F-150 can carry a log, but not a stuffed animal or a dog house. Go play X where you can't fit bullet weapons on turret slots. Under 28db Officially nerfproof (predicting CR nerf February '14) Selling SP: 10k SP per 100k ISK.

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 8857	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:31:00 - [11] - Quote True Adamance wrote: N1ck Comeau wrote: Heavies with light weapons is such a crutch. calling the 2nd most UP suit a crutch......yup.... Commandos are fine. What he is referring to is the practice of using a sentinel/basic frame for a load of cheap HP and then using weapons such as the RR. It's vastly more effective than using a medium frame for bad players because they have such a massive pool of HP to fall back on. ZATARA CARRIES US ALL Lenin of the glorious armoured revolution MAG Raven
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1790	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:33:00 - [12] - Quote Heavies can have whatever weapon they feel like. The heavy gains this perk in return for his equipment slot. He then sacrifices his slots and manoeuvrability for his high EHP. If your only concern is that people are bricktanking heavies for a little extra EHP then I suggest you need to work on your aim whilst moving. Because heavies are terrible shots. Besides its no different to a BrickTanked proto v Mlt Frontline, yet that is considered fair. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1072	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:35:00 - [13] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Heavies can have whatever weapon they feel like. The heavy gains this perk in return for his equipment slot. He then sacrifices his slots and manoeuvrability for his high EHP. If your only concern is that people are bricktanking heavies for a little extra EHP then I suggest you need to work on your aim whilst moving. Because heavies are terrible shots. Besides its no different to a BrickTanked proto v Mlt Frontline, yet that is considered fair. The problem isn't CQC RR heavies, its facing 1500HP at 80+m doing 600DPS STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
Jake Bloodworth Molon Labe. Public Disorder. 366	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:38:00 - [14] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Heavies have been able to use light weapons since the beginning of Dust 514, why are the QQers only just now coming out in force? It's fine. As a true heavy, I'm not a fan of the current RR heavy craze. That being said, people are QQing for the same reason they always QQ. A non assault/logistic suit is killing them.
stlcarlos989 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1072	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:42:00 - [15] - Quote Jake Bloodworth wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Heavies have been able to use light weapons since the beginning of Dust 514, why are the QQers only just now coming out in force? It's fine. As a true heavy, I'm not a fan of the current RR heavy craze. That being said, people are QQing for the same reason they always QQ. A non assault/logistic suit is killing them. Not QQing I just think that the commando should be the heavy frame that uses light weapons, it would lead to more commando on the field. STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado, Cannabis Sativa Connoisseur
echo47 Minmatar Republic 188	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:46:00 - [16] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Heavies have been able to use light weapons since the beginning of Dust 514, why are the QQers only just now coming out in force? It's fine. Because of heavy with proto rail, and there is nothing wrong with it. I would rather look bad and win, than look good and lose.
Monkey MAC Lost Millennium 1790	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:47:00 - [17] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Heavies can have whatever weapon they feel like. The heavy gains this perk in return for his equipment slot. He then sacrifices his slots and manoeuvrability for his high EHP. If your only concern is that people are bricktanking heavies for a little extra EHP then I suggest you need to work on your aim whilst moving. Because heavies are terrible shots. Besides its no different to a BrickTanked proto v Mlt Frontline, yet that is considered fair. The problem isn't CQC RR heavies, its facing 1500HP at 80+m doing 600DPS I never mentioned CQC, if you are complaing because your getting outranged by an Amarr Suit with a Caldari Weapon (built for range) then man are you gonna whine when the caldari heavy AI weapon is released. Tanks 514 I told you, I bloody well told you. Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior of the Trees Lvl.1
True Adamance Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 6481	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:52:00 - [18] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Jake Bloodworth wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: Heavies have been able to use light weapons since the beginning of Dust 514, why are the QQers only just now coming out in force? It's fine. As a true heavy, I'm not a fan of the current RR heavy craze. That being said, people are QQing for the same reason they always QQ. A non assault/logistic suit is killing them. Not QQing I just think that the commando should be the heavy frame that uses light weapons, it would lead to more commando on the field. Dude check 1.8 Commando stats. You will be seeing more of their kind on the map anyway. "My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
Jenova Rhapsodos Fatal Absolution 173	Posted - 2014.02.02 22:53:00 - [19] - Quote I don't like heavies with light weapons but I don't think they need to be removed. They're really just for players that need the extra HP to fall back on. It's a newb friendly combination really . My only problem is running into a Proto RR Heavy with my ScR out. Always a challenging kill.
Oswald Rehnquist 1204	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:03:00 - [20] - Quote The front line rifles are over powered compared to the vast majority of the weapons (whether by design it should or shouldn't be), nerf them and you won't find heavies running them anymore, the fact they are chosen over other weapon is entirely based on the fact that they are powerful, also their one infantry weapon is a sup up smg with limited range, thus they are easily defeated by map design. I hate when heavies do it, because its hard to counter (so I moan and whine in game), but on the other hand as I stated earlier, the hmg is limited by map design, and they don't have equipment slots to spam wps with, so its understandable, especially when the favoritism has traditionally been directed towards medium frames with all their content out first. Below 28 dB

Meee One The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 268	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:18:00 - [21] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Am I the only one who thinks this? I USED to think this. Till i saw a squad of STB which you were in,using FOTM RR and CR. I was hiding fearing death,and lo and behold a sentinel with a RR came around a corner behind meee and swatted you all down. Twas' glorious! Then 2 more heavies came and we had a durable wall of heavy death and destruction. I support heavies with light weapons. (literately) Sexy jutsu Time to jaaam!
Summ Dude OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 165	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:23:00 - [22] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: No, no they should not. It has been possible since always. What is wrong now? I can't put a damage mod in a low slot so why a light weapon in the heavy slot? Why not make it a "W" slot since any weapon can fit into it, not to mention it would make the commando more appealing. Um, really? You realize you can also fit a sidearm into a light weapon slot, right? And this has always been the case? So for what you're suggesting, you'd also have to take that ability away on medium and light suits. For some reason the creators of these threads always seem to ignore that fact. Go figure. Aero Yassavi wrote: Heavies have been able to use light weapons since the beginning of Dust 514, why are the QQers only just now coming out in force? It's fine. I'll give you a hint. It rhymes with Snail Stifle. Look, as has been said so many times by so many people now, if Sentinels are choosing to run with light weapons instead of heavy weapons, then there's something wrong with the weapon balance. I'd pretty much always rather have my HMG than any assault rifle, this thing wrecks people in it's optimal. And in case it wasn't obvious, heavy weapons are supposed to be more lethal than light weapons (if also at least more niche), just like light weapons are more lethal than sidearms. So don't complain about the suits, complain about the unbalanced weapons. Perhaps specifically that the assault rifles still seem to outperform most everything else in most situations. Not just a laymen, but the laymen.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3033	Posted - 2014.02.02 23:57:00 - [23] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Am I the only one who thinks this? Give heavies a full array of weapons and I'll consider politely saying "no". Until then: GTFO No.
Mad Greasemonkey NervousMoment. 8	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:09:00 - [24] - Quote The problem is not the pssibility to fit a RR but the fact that a HMG is still underpowered at range. The HMG still needs more oompf at range.
Long Evity 1468	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:14:00 - [25] - Quote lemme get this straight: It's cool that I can hulk around a giant gun that can't hit past 40m - but it's completely wrong for me to use... a smaller weapon with range. What? The best excuse someone came up with was, "Heavies have fat fingers, how they pull the trigger?" And even that is redundant. Fact is - HMG has the highest DPS output right now - if a heavy is using a light weapon it's because he's A) In ambush B) Not in city squad, so is most likely out in open C) Is in a game where everyone is on a roof Because, let's face it - HMG is not a weapon to exceed in variety of encounters. So unless you can give us a heavy weapon that CAN - please continue to feed us your tears about light weapons. I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
Magewarlord Contract Hunters 38	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:21:00 - [26] - Quote As a dedicated heavy myself, I'd say sure whatever. But realistically they should be able to carry whatever.
WUT ANG D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 78	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:40:00 - [27] - Quote Commandos should be medium frame.........Assault - Logi - Commando Swarm SP Refund Please!!!!!!! "LONG LIVE DARK LEGION"
Tectonic Fusion 1018	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:44:00 - [28] - Quote Jenova Rhapsodos wrote: I don't like heavies with light weapons but I don't think they need to be removed. They're really just for players that need the extra HP to fall back on. It's a newb friendly combination really . My only problem is running into a Proto RR Heavy with my ScR out. Always a challenging kill. Guerrilla tactics are your friend. And don't be afraid to use that SMG if they ever get pissed about you popping in and out of cover. Solo Player Squad status: Locked
KING CHECKMATE Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 4326	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:46:00 - [29] - Quote stlcarlos989 wrote: Am I the only one who thinks this? Yes. AceOfJokers666 [ + ] AimBot / VALOR / MAG \| YOU EITHER LOVE BACON OR YOU ARE WRONG
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu 3024	Posted - 2014.02.03 00:49:00 - [30] - Quote I don't care because if I can kill you before you kill me, then that makes it all the better. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. For the State!! [email protected]



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