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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6480
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:22:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:Heavies with light weapons is such a crutch.
calling the 2nd most UP suit a crutch......yup....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6481
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Posted - 2014.02.02 22:52:00 -
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stlcarlos989 wrote:Jake Bloodworth wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Heavies have been able to use light weapons since the beginning of Dust 514, why are the QQers only just now coming out in force?
It's fine. As a true heavy, I'm not a fan of the current RR heavy craze. That being said, people are QQing for the same reason they always QQ. A non assault/logistic suit is killing them. Not QQing I just think that the commando should be the heavy frame that uses light weapons, it would lead to more commando on the field.
Dude check 1.8 Commando stats. You will be seeing more of their kind on the map anyway.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6493
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Posted - 2014.02.03 01:54:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:Summ Dude wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:saber has said heavys with light weapons is being addressed in 1.8........ changes are comings for the best . hang in there Linkz or it didn't happen. It didn't happen. At best, what Iron meant, would be that CCP looked it over - then realize taking away light weapons from heavies would mean the utter death of the class in anywhere but FW - camping the very few objectives that someone can't just walk up too and keep distance and force you to run around because getting close to him isn't happening when it takes 2 seconds to kill you. I would pretty much quit this ******* game if they changed it, as heavies would be complete worthless trash 90% of the map, and 75% of the game. I've been running around in Templar assault gear - using the Templar ScR - mowing down poor heavies who think sitting at an objective is smart. Nothing is smart when CCP is designing it - 3 nades?! Who the **** gives 3 nades that all pretty much OHK anything at all levels. Poor fatties, no one realizes how ****** they are vs a smart player. Least a scout can run.
Why woulnt you just cross skill into Commando?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6494
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Posted - 2014.02.03 02:02:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:True Adamance wrote:Long Evity wrote:Summ Dude wrote:VALCORE72 wrote:saber has said heavys with light weapons is being addressed in 1.8........ changes are comings for the best . hang in there Linkz or it didn't happen. It didn't happen. At best, what Iron meant, would be that CCP looked it over - then realize taking away light weapons from heavies would mean the utter death of the class in anywhere but FW - camping the very few objectives that someone can't just walk up too and keep distance and force you to run around because getting close to him isn't happening when it takes 2 seconds to kill you. I would pretty much quit this ******* game if they changed it, as heavies would be complete worthless trash 90% of the map, and 75% of the game. I've been running around in Templar assault gear - using the Templar ScR - mowing down poor heavies who think sitting at an objective is smart. Nothing is smart when CCP is designing it - 3 nades?! Who the **** gives 3 nades that all pretty much OHK anything at all levels. Poor fatties, no one realizes how ****** they are vs a smart player. Least a scout can run. Why woulnt you just cross skill into Commando? That PoS suit is a joke. I need something that can work in PC versus stiff competition - not a pub stomp suit. I happen to use ScR a lot in PC because of how often everyone jumps to roof first. If CCP takes away my ability to counter range attacks then wtf am I suppose to do? My teams better off with a more versatile soldier - as anyone can camp a point like a heavy with TTK as it is.
Check the 1.8 Stats. They look plenty competitive to me. Well over 1000HP, Two lights, Equipment for spam, Faster Reload, and a total of 10% damage to racial weapon.
All you lose are grenades......and please don't tell me all competitive play is just grenade spam...
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6494
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Posted - 2014.02.03 02:10:00 -
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Long Evity wrote:
Tbh - a suit without a nade is a suit without an arm in PC. Especially if your city squad.
1000 HP you say? Did they give it more slots? Because health wasn't the issue - it was lack of slots to do anything worthwhile with the suit to excel at anything.
Yup
Aero projects a suit with 711 Armour on his Amarr + Shields which were 300ish last U checked, and could fit some ridiculous weaponry combinations.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6495
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Posted - 2014.02.03 02:29:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:True Adamance wrote:Long Evity wrote:
Tbh - a suit without a nade is a suit without an arm in PC. Especially if your city squad.
1000 HP you say? Did they give it more slots? Because health wasn't the issue - it was lack of slots to do anything worthwhile with the suit to excel at anything.
Yup Aero projects a suit with 711 Armour on his Amarr + Shields which were 300ish last U checked, and could fit some ridiculous weaponry combinations. Oh yea, they got a CPU/PG buff too didn't they? And for some weird reason right now the Amarr Commando actually has the same HP as the Gallente and Caldari, which is a problem that needs to be corrected.
We do indeed need slightly more to counteract our lesser speeds.... but right now I think Aero is just happy the Amarr commando is becoming competitive.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6500
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Posted - 2014.02.03 02:55:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Heavies have been able to use light weapons since the beginning of Dust 514, why are the QQers only just now coming out in force?
It's fine. People have been murdering each other in real life since the beginning of time, why are people still making laws to outlaw murder in modern day governments? #murderisfine #logic
Cause we can.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6500
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Posted - 2014.02.03 03:11:00 -
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Summ Dude wrote:noob cavman wrote:Murder before scones and tea anyone? *\o/* I actually prefer muffins.... 
I take mine no sugar, but would love some marmalade for my accompanying scones (pronounced properly, not in the American fashion)
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6500
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Posted - 2014.02.03 03:17:00 -
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I HateMyFace wrote:Eh as a commando.....I win so **** u
Still a filthy Gallentean Commando is no commando at all 
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6502
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Posted - 2014.02.03 03:21:00 -
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 Logi Bro wrote:Summ Dude wrote:Logi Bro wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Heavies have been able to use light weapons since the beginning of Dust 514, why are the QQers only just now coming out in force?
It's fine. People have been murdering each other in real life since the beginning of time, why are people still making laws to outlaw murder in modern day governments? #murderisfine #logic Um, no, you actually missed the point. The point was that people are just now starting to complain about this, even though it's been around forever. People have been complaining about murder and writing laws against it since there have been civilizations. So your argument is (actually) invalid. #nicetry #illogic My post was sarcastic, but glad to see you took it so seriously. How about we look at some REAL logic? Heavy suits were combat inefficient prior to the buff they got in 1.6. Want to know when the first of these heavy+light weapon complaint threads started? Just a little bit after 1.6. They have gotten worse since the release of even more rifles in 1.7. Heavies with light weapons are nothing new, sure. But GOOD heavies plus light weapons is new. So to answer the question that Aero asked: "why are the QQers only just now coming out in force," it is because of a subsequent buff to heavy suits and introduction of new, ridiculously powerful rifles. THAT is why this is a problem.
Is that really an issue with the heavy suit then?
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6502
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Posted - 2014.02.03 03:27:00 -
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noob cavman wrote:True Adamance wrote:Summ Dude wrote:noob cavman wrote:Murder before scones and tea anyone? *\o/* I actually prefer muffins.... I take mine no sugar, but would love some marmalade for my accompanying scones (pronounced properly, not in the American fashion) You magnificent amarrian bastard a million likes for you and a slave that enjoys a good whipping
Don't whip your slaves before me. My duty is to protect the citizens of the Empire, and preserve the laws of the Empire. Mistreatment of slaves is a severe breach of Imperial law.
But thank you. I do love marmalade on my scones...... if anything needs whipping its the cream I'm gonna put on that beautiful crispy, fluffy, golden surface.
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6502
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Posted - 2014.02.03 03:28:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:True Adamance wrote:I HateMyFace wrote:Eh as a commando.....I win so **** u Still a filthy Gallentean Commando is no commando at all Hey!
I only speak the Word of the Faith. The word is truth.
@#Gallentesuckdick
@#Gallentetankssuckdick
@#Amarrswag
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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True Adamance
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
6570
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Posted - 2014.02.04 03:14:00 -
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Roy Ventus wrote:Sole Fenychs wrote:Anyone who thinks that heavies with light weapons are an issue is brain damaged.
The only issue is heavies abusing the lack of exist animation on LAVs. Other than that, a heavy is a strongly gimped suit in regards to mobility and scan profile and thus easily flanked even by sole players.
Everyone can see heavies through walls. ._. Having 2-6 heavies running in a formation with this tactic can't be easily subdued by just scanning and flanking. They have the endurance to last long enough for their allies, who are too slow to be too far away from them, to turn around and give them supporting fire. Don't try to downsize the bs going down here.
Not against Commando's though, we scan back.....
"My Faith in you is absolute; my sword is Yours, My God, and Your will guides me now and for all eternity."
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