KEQ and the rest of the original corps were all old beta corps, and like RND and KEQ many were old MAG clans. In the worst case we at least had a great understanding of the way we needed to utilize comms, organize players, and dance with the mechanics. I'm not saying that your typical newer corp isn't totally capable of learning that, but they can learn it quite a bit faster with a quick crash course in "look at how we do it". After you have that initial realization of "okay, so this is how much organization we need to have" the tactics and strategies can follow after a few battles on skill level.

Not even close. It'd drastically reduce the number of corps who had the numbers to participate. Your best hope there, would be by excluding even more corps from the game, that some might merge up. But then all the vet corps merge together into one, and the newbie corps all merge into one and we still have the same problem.

I understand why corp lock their districts its to survive however it shouldn't be profitable.

The problem with your idea is if corps do get free districts and never use them because they lock them profitably we still haven't gotten any where.

Then it also becomes extremely hard to police as any corp who has tried can tell you. Can't kick em out if they are permalocked.

If new corps want to get their foot in the door they should try and negotiate their way in. Who decides which corps can fight who?

I want a fix too I just don't think this is the one.

But having multiple fights simultaneously to take a district will certainly increase the need for more players in corps and giving more players playing time.

I want a fix too I just don't think this is the one.

Too many crybabies in thread pls move to general.


If you're in MH for honor and competition then you're doing it wrong.

PC is for those seaking wealth

What do you think about the classic chromosome corp battles returning, ydubbs? maybe in both 16v16 and 8v8

A coulpe of things they could do is open more district up, hopefully if they do t open more up we can set up an area for newer corps to go and put something in the game that you can do if isk you earn from district just hoarding it all into a wallet seems ridiculous, i don't know maybe a Cannon that can shot at eve support to help corps that don't have it, this idea might be good but to implemented now would be tough

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He doesn't know what that means lol

I'm loving the whole, " But in the past... " In the past the game wasn't nearly as dull and broken. People cared enough to get up and scream and organize 500 men campaigns. Now? We have nothing. AE isn't in the shoes EoN used to be - EoN was the foundation for how alliances should evolve - not how to regress back too.

Ydubbs, I have never talked to you in game or held a real conversation with you on the forum outside of persnickety comments back and forth, so I have no good founding for what to think about your post. I have always been vocal about wanting to help indie corps and voted to keep ANON's share low because I think gorging yourself on land is generally a bad thing, but I find a bit of humor in this coming from the CEO of a corp that was in EoN. and one that had held as much land as AE does now. You did not bring up this idea then and your very corp members act like what is going on is somehow different.

Now, I will give you the benefit of the doubt considering I feel your altruism is genuine, but what will happen when the next big push goes on? I think what EoN. and now Renegade have proven is that this game is inherently shallow... outside of broken, boring, and ultra repetitive game modes there is no true expansion. For such a grandiose and expansive game when it comes to weapons and suits and what not, there is little else to enjoy. Maybe PC should burn and be forgotten...

Since you haven't had a conversation with me or know the history of Ahrendee and our intentions and what we are about....I can understand why you find humor in it.

Thing is...we never really wanted as many districts as we had when we were in EoN. We had 6 districts going into EoN and we didn't really want anymore. But they were given them away so we took them. We ended up having battles and taking the rest. If this idea was proposed when we had 28 districts and the community was down for it.....we would have been too. Because again, we wouldn't be given up all of our districts. We would keep a planet and just merc out the rest. Having too many districts isn't all that its cracked up to be unless you have 30 or so players active at random. ISK generation is cool though.

Again....if we did this and a low tiered alliance or corp got too big, then the merc corps would just take them down.

And also, if AE, NS, FA, STB or whoever else that has districts don't want to do this...then it is what it is. I'm not going to belittle or think negative of a corp that doesn't want to do this. I'm just proposing an idea because a lot of people are tired of playing the same people every single day and I think that it's a travesty that there are so many corps not in pc.

Sorry for the long, nested quotes... On my cell phone. I can appreciate that sentiment and I feel the same way as you. I am not one for PC on a large scale, but it is what it is. I just wish isk wasn't the benefit, as no one cares about that, really.

I've been semi vocal on the fact PC is completely broken. In a video game, you should never allow one group or alliance to dominate. It's just bad for a video game. Players lose interest, and then the game suffers.

Corp contracts were fun, and I wish they came back.

If you want to help PC quickly, I think you need to come up with smaller ideas that are built on competition and fun. For instance, one of the large corps can set aside a planet. Then everyone interested in trying to conquer that planet signs up with a small entry fee. But in order to create competition and fun, you split the corps up into four tiers. You have A, B, C, and D corps. Every team has to be made up of players from each tier.

So, in four squads of four, one squad is all A corp players; one B, C, and D. Se\7eN, most likely a D tier corp, could be on a team with a four-man squad of AE, for instance.

Winning team takes the pot. Best thing is that you can rinse and repeat this process by mixing up the corps again.

Just one idea, but something fun that will generate interest. I think something everyone needs to realize is that the players control PC. Some will say that's a bad thing, but it can be turned into a huge positive.

we don't have to be so creative.....a very simple solution would suffice. Eliminate the threat of skilled corps attacking districts and just mercing out. No corp will ever become what EoN or what RA is because the better corps will all be merc corps. Back in the early pc days, there were so many corps here...this wasn't a problem.

I appreciate your optimism, but I just don't see that big of an idea happening. All you're doing is perpetuating the main issues in this game. Even if the big corps only merc, they will be the only ones playing this game. For the majority, that is all that happens now. AE will be hired to play Fatal Absolution again, and again, and again. You have to think of a better way to get everyone involved and competing.

Plus, we need a way more people learn how to compete so they can go off and actually play PC.

I forgot to put though that granted there will be corps too scared to compete but a large majority have certain standards when it comes to time invested vs satisfaction. A game mode that's laggy, kicks your team mates and can be exploited is simply unacceptable but the lag fix is good enough for swamp.

We might just organised matches and do crazy themed ones. Granted if our alliance wants war we'll eat that sht sandwich with them

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I don't believe corps that can compete....don't because of lag or D/Cs. I mean, you can be d/c'ed out of a pub match or FW. Exploits are done in pub matches and FW just as bad as pc. Yet, here we all are.....if dudes can deal with it for a pub match, then they would deal with it in pc where you can actually benefit with ISK.

Giving indie corps a free pass to MC is not the solution... I rather see them training before they enter MH scene, instead giving them free districts just for them to lose them in a few hours or days.

The old corporate contract system needs to be put into place as an alternative which may serve merely as training, betting, indie tournaments, just like the 8vs8 system helped ppl get ready for PC last year.