Sounds good.... on paper. Try convincing anyone who has land to give it up, easier said than done.

My idea

AE and nyain san push for 100% control of MH, lock all districts, make CCP fix this ****.

Then sell or give away all of them.

We have been for a while.

I'm not doubting that you guys are...I have no idea. I'm just saying, that if you guys sell or give districts to low-tiered corps, what is stopping a vet corp from attacking them to expand. Especially, if they can't be AE? Only other way is to remove the threat and to just merc out.

Selling districts to newer corps is also just another method to ensure they never get anywhere. By selling the district, you ensure they'll never recoup their investment on it, and hence never really be able to afford to branch out from there. If someone spends over 100 mil on a district from you, and then another corp takes it from them two days later, all you did was take their money, you didn't help them much.

That's what the game needs, but again, as others have said, good luck convincing people to do it. Both Oddelulf and Altbrard have offered fantastic opportunities for combat to other groups, but so many people just want to camp on as many districts as possible and lock them, that it's not even worth investing in attacking districts. Because if you take them, Nyain will take them from you in two days and move the timer to 4 AM.

If top-end corps even restrained themselves to trying to hold a planet, that would be enough. Make a homeworld. If you like someone else's homeworld, kick them off of it, and then abandon the old one.

Fix district locking fix MH.

Fix district locking fix MH.

Which will in no way solve the issue dubbs has said.

I am against this because it does not follow the "teach them to fish" theory, what will they learn if they are simply handed districts?

I am against this because it does not follow the "teach them to fish" theory, what will they learn if they are simply handed districts?

So.... if all of the locked districts were unlocked nothing would change? Seriously?

If they can't lock they have to fight, and possibly lose. Most people lock because they can't defend.

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So, at this point...the state of PC consists of one alliance dominating most of MH. Some may have issues with it, others may not. Only the stronger corps are able to even try and compete. But if the stronger corps are not able to top the most strongest corp, then competition ultimately fades.

You also have some corps that claim to help increase PC activity by selling their districts to weaker corps. But what good is that when those weaker corps are attacked by more stronger, vet corps looking to enter or expand in MH? Some say, PFC is helping by allowing some of the weaker or newer corps a place to train. Well, I don't need to reiterate my opinion on that. But simply, what's the point if they can't even move a toe outside of PFC?

So, this is an idea that I recently thought of...you guys can discuss what you think. I propose that all of the vet or stronger corps (or even corps that feel that they are in that category) hold themselves to only a few districts or a planet.....give all of the new, indie, or lower tiered corps all of the other districts and just merc out!?!?


What does this accomplish? Well, a lot of corps are saying that they don't pc or care about pc because of lag or whatever. I, personally believe they're saying that because they feel that they can't compete. If you can compete in pc, then I think that you would if you had the resources. Some corps are only out because of lack of activity and not able to field players or burnout. But these are corps that can compete in pc and they would merc out anyway.

This helps everyone and is a win-win situation on every side, imo. For low-tiered corps, you will now be able to fight other low-tiered corps outside of PFC and expand. This will also allow for PFC corps to utilize what they've been training for all this time :). If you're short a few guys, then you hire a merc team, squad, or players. If you have the ISK and don't want to actually fight a battle, or maybe you're expanding into a different timezone, then you hire from any of the known merc corps.

For the vet corps....we will have our own set of districts of planet so we will still earn passive ISK. But now, our pc activity will be up without the demand to being online 24/7 defending districts. Corps like AE that has all of those districts but not a lot of pc matches will now have much more activity. At the same time, there is nothing stopping you from launching against another vet corp's district or planet.

There are 254 districts on MH....we can get all of those corps out of pubs, FW, PFC....there would be a lot of conflict as corps are trying to expand into MH. If there are wars with indie alliances, corps, etc..merc corps would definitely get even more action.

So, what are your thoughts? Of course all of the vet corps holding land in MH will have to agree to make this a reality. But I think that this is the only way to increase activity in MH. Only if activity in MH is increased, will CCP open up more of New Eden.

As much as I would like to see more action in PC I just don't think this idea will work until the locking of districts is fixed. Because all it would do is take what corps have earned and fought for and give it to new corps to farm.

The mechanic itself need to be rethought I'm glad people are thinking of ways to fix this but this idea isn't the one.

Obviously fixing the profitable locking of districts will help, but we need more.

And having been with A.E since the beginning I can definetly sympathize with how frustrating it is to get into PC. Cause I can tell you any district we got from day one Team players was beating on our door and did not make it easy for us to get where we are today we took some beatings but in the end it is what forged our corp.

I remember when EOn ruled MH and I had some of the same thoughts the fact that a strong group of 16 can basically control most of the districts has long been something I've question as the best way to run PC mechanics.

So what is the solution? Multiple battles played at the same time best 2 out of 3 forcing more players into corps giving more people the enjoyment of playing these type battles?

Tiered levels of PC based on what though? Tournament style.

I hope we can encourage more people to get into PC and eventually bring more players to the game as well.

well, that's up to all of the corps to give it up, really. They would have to want pc to strive on their own to do it themselves. I know it would be hard for them...but I do read posts saying that AE is trying to help pc.

Wow +1 a very good post....i am really surprised that just you bring this idea but if you mean this really i agreed with you. Maybe a way too is if ccp gives the choice back to make contracts without districts?

It's a valiant effort Dubbs, but here's the simpler solution: The corps that want PC to survive need to come up with training programs for corps trying to break in, effective ones, and the newer corps have to be willing to engage with those programs.

The issue is not only that many of these corporations don't have districts, it's that they don't even have the necessary introduction to organization and tactics in general, Skirmish 2.0 tactics in particular, to get started even. The only way they're going to get that introduction is by having their ground commanders and core players participate in some battles run by a team that already knows what they're doing. Or at least that's the quickest way.

Despite that being hard, trying to get that kind of program in place and engaged isn't as hard as trying to get people to give up land.

It's a valiant effort Dubbs, but here's the simpler solution: The corps that want PC to survive need to come up with training programs for corps trying to break in, effective ones, and the newer corps have to be willing to engage with those programs.

The issue is not only that many of these corporations don't have districts, it's that they don't even have the necessary introduction to organization and tactics in general, Skirmish 2.0 tactics in particular, to get started even. The only way they're going to get that introduction is by having their ground commanders and core players participate in some battles run by a team that already knows what they're doing. Or at least that's the quickest way.

Despite that being hard, trying to get that kind of program in place and engaged isn't as hard as trying to get people to give up land.

Only way to learn is to put both feet forward. What did KEQ and the rest of the original PC corps do when pc started? All that the rest of us can do is allow them to have fights on their skill level and learn that way.

I believe increasing the player count from 16v16 to 32v32 would increase participation and help other corps become more competitve by drawing from their size.

I understand why corp lock their districts its to survive however it shouldn't be profitable.

The problem with your idea is if corps do get free districts and never use them because they lock them profitably we still haven't gotten any where.

Then it also becomes extremely hard to police as any corp who has tried can tell you. Can't kick em out if they are permalocked.

If new corps want to get their foot in the door they should try and negotiate their way in. Who decides which corps can fight who?

I want a fix too I just don't think this is the one.

But having multiple fights simultaneously to take a district will certainly increase the need for more players in corps and giving more players playing time.