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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.17 15:57:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:steelRatt wrote:I see a few peeps here saying eve is a game were you have to live with your choices and that's true. actually that is not fully correct. you can buy any character at the character bazar for ISK if you are not happy with your current one. beside that, the SP gain in EVE is fully passive, you can increase the SP gain by a proper neural remap, get some implants, then stop playing for a month, play the latest next gen game in the meantime to experience something fresh and then get enough passive SP to get a new toy with decent amount of support skills in that new toy. try that in dust, you will only unluck a single proto weapon without the support skills and nothing else.
Buying a decent charicter in EVE is extreamly expensive, normaly around 7-10 BIL for a decently skilled charicter, I know I have trained eve alts and sold them for isk, and most of the people who buy alts are people who get isk with money from CCP then go and buy a high skilled charicter to cut out all the training time. So most of the time it is in CCPs benifit to let people sell charicters in EVE. So its not something the average EVE player gets to do any tiem in their EVE life.
You also relise you can make another PSN acount make a charicter and set its passive SP on and come back in a few months and be a whole nother person. And no 1 month of training in EVE gets you no where, thats like maybe getting your gun skill from 4-5, unlocking the T2 version and definatly no time for decent suport skills.. kinda like unlocking one proto gun in dust in around a month.
Oh and in EVE they dont have SP events every other month givign out 2x or 3x SP.
Your trying to use peoples ignorance over how EVEs SP works to make it sound like they have a advantage over dust, but they also have aabout 100 more skills and 8-9 years of development under its belt over DUST. |
Jack McReady
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:23:00 -
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Beck Weathers wrote: Buying a decent charicter in EVE is extreamly expensive, normaly around 7-10 BIL for a well skilled charicter, I know I have trained eve alts and sold them for isk, and most of the people who buy alts are people who get isk with money from CCP then go and buy a high skilled charicter to cut out all the training time. So most of the time it is in CCPs benifit to let people sell charicters in EVE. So its not something the average EVE player gets to do any tiem in their EVE life.
You also relise you can make another PSN acount make a charicter and set its passive SP on and come back in a few months and be a whole nother person. And no 1 month of training in EVE gets you no where, thats like maybe getting your gun skill from 4-5, unlocking the T2 version and definatly no time for decent suport skills.. kinda like unlocking one proto gun in dust in around a month.
Oh and in EVE they dont have SP events every other month givign out 2x or 3x SP.
Your trying to use peoples ignorance over how EVEs SP works to make it sound like they have a advantage over dust, but they also have aabout 100 more skills and 8-9 years of development under its belt over DUST.
7-10 bil is expensive? I made 1 bil in my first two months with trading when I started EVE years ago
and yes, 1 or 2 month of passive SP gets you very far actually. lvl 5 in cruisers or frigates from another race takes a some like 10 days with implants and proper neural remap and you do not need lvl 5, keep it lvl 4 save alot of time and get the support skills to lvl 4-5 and this is easily done in 1 or 2 months, not to mention that alot of the support skills carry over to other stuff. you can try out new races ships and carry on. try that in dust
who is ignorant now? |
Chaos Scum
Warcaste
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:25:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Chaos Scum wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Rasatsu wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:CCP cant lose with a respec CCP will lose with a respec Like all the other times they lost? The sky was falling then too, but lo and behold, the sky seems to be doing just fine... aren't you the one always crying about the skies being filled with red line railgun fire? Not sure what that has to do with a respec. And I only complain because of the redline, I actually enjoy flying through railgun fire because it's the mark of a good pilot to be able to survive in that **** while still getting work done. The redline is just a noob crutch that has no business existing, and is a primitive fix to a complex problem that doesn't actually fix anything. To be fair I also complain about stacking damage mods on vehicles, but that's not strictly a railgun issue
I was just bustin your balls. you left yourself wide open. no hard feelings buddy
Don't hate me because I'm dutiful.
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:31:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:Beck Weathers wrote: Buying a decent charicter in EVE is extreamly expensive, normaly around 7-10 BIL for a well skilled charicter, I know I have trained eve alts and sold them for isk, and most of the people who buy alts are people who get isk with money from CCP then go and buy a high skilled charicter to cut out all the training time. So most of the time it is in CCPs benifit to let people sell charicters in EVE. So its not something the average EVE player gets to do any tiem in their EVE life.
You also relise you can make another PSN acount make a charicter and set its passive SP on and come back in a few months and be a whole nother person. And no 1 month of training in EVE gets you no where, thats like maybe getting your gun skill from 4-5, unlocking the T2 version and definatly no time for decent suport skills.. kinda like unlocking one proto gun in dust in around a month.
Oh and in EVE they dont have SP events every other month givign out 2x or 3x SP.
Your trying to use peoples ignorance over how EVEs SP works to make it sound like they have a advantage over dust, but they also have aabout 100 more skills and 8-9 years of development under its belt over DUST.
7-10 bil is expensive? I made 1 bilin my first two months with trading when I started EVE years ago and yes, 1 or 2 month of passive SP gets you very far actually. lvl 5 in cruisers or frigates from another race takes a some like 10 days with implants and proper neural remap and you do not need lvl 5, keep it lvl 4 save alot of time and get the support skills to lvl 4-5 and this is easily done in 1 or 2 months, not to mention that alot of the support skills carry over to other stuff. who is ignorant now?
lol You still are, As I said the Average EvE player dosent get 7 bil lightly, and even for 7 bil thats usualy only a charicter speced into one spacific ship with suport skills, like a frighter, or a carrier.
And still no, the basic frigate skill is suposed to be quick, its a frig, same with small weapons, both of which are like skilling into a basic lvl 1 scout suit in dust with a basic shot gun, except in dust you could skill into a advanced scout with an advanced shotgun in a month which would be the equivilant of a fully skilled assult frig which take 3 months to obtain.
You really have no clue how easy it Is to skill into things in Dust compaired to EVE Stop trying to compaire a frig to proto suits. |
steelRatt
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:45:00 -
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[/quote]You also relise you can make another PSN acount
Your trying to use peoples ignorance over how EVEs SP works to make it sound like they have a advantage over dust, but they also have aabout 100 more skills and 8-9 years of development under its belt over DUST.[/quote]
Yes I have 2 ALT accounts and I use them as test runs before I put points in my main
And I'm sorry I thought I was talking about how eve doesn't get sp resets all the time making you live by the choices you make not what sp system is better or worse.
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Beck Weathers
Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.17 19:58:00 -
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steelRatt wrote:
Yes I have 2 ALT accounts and I use them as test runs before I put points in my main
And I'm sorry I thought I was talking about how eve doesn't get sp resets all the time making you live by the choices you make not what sp system is better or worse.
Um I was arguing with Jack McReady not you good sir, you kinda butchered the quote box that showed that. |
steelRatt
L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2014.01.17 22:12:00 -
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sorry Beck using my phone and I dint notice the botched quotes |
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