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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.11 18:38:00 -
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If the OP hadn't been sending so much hate mail, I would have sent them some ISK for continuing to push.
The matchmaking was terrible in the matches that brought this on. I switched to a scout BPO suit and ran around with a scrambler pistol in two of them. It happens, but I can tell you that I'm not going to run **** gear all the time out of some pathetic belief that using gear that I earned is bad.
Kuddos to the OP for running in a squad and bringing it hard in those matches. Lay off the hatemail and QQing and keep getting better.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2507
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Posted - 2014.01.11 18:39:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Palatinate wrote:Patrick57 wrote:devonus durga wrote:When I run into the occasional squad or two yeah, when I run against the same 10 peopl in 3 or 4 matches? Nahhh
And abusing something that is broken, is OK? Be it matchmaking, the equipment lag issue, tank spam, etc.
And I didn't say team work was bad, I run in a squad regulary, heck I don't even mind que syncing if its not 12 guys all running proto. Half the fun of the game is running together. But there are corps who abuse their power, the system, current OP weapons/mechanics, etc, and just make the game no fun for anyone else. When you ruin the game for other people, its wrong, period, and there are certain corps that do this consistently, and the only reason they do it s because they can.
That's what this topic is about. Not protons in general, not teamwork, its about those who consistently abuse the current state of the game and conti uously do it. sver and exiles are good about it usually, thiwr just there BC when they do do it, new players and less equipped players need to be prepared.
I don't like any of this **** either. Running solo domination gets really old facing 2-3 squads every match when I'm on a team of noobs. But not everything you listed is abusing the game :P In fact, I wish I still had my Python now :( Stop running solo then you noob! At least squad up with 1 other person so they can try to watch your back. ( I recommend xSaphir3 or Rampage ).  Maybe if people quit playing with screaming and crying family members in the back ground while they eat chips and mouth breath. Then I might consider doing something that requires me to listen to other people.
Find a different group if comms always suck in the circles you run in. Solo ain't the way to go.
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
2507
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Posted - 2014.01.11 18:51:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:If the OP hadn't been sending so much hate mail, I would have sent them some ISK for continuing to push.
The matchmaking was terrible in the matches that brought this on. I switched to a scout BPO suit and ran around with a scrambler pistol in two of them. It happens, but I can tell you that I'm not going to run **** gear all the time out of some pathetic belief that using gear that I earned is bad.
Kuddos to the OP for running in a squad and bringing it hard in those matches. Lay off the hatemail and QQing and keep getting better.
Yeah, I was tad miffed that night, my apologies. I actually need to send that whole group apologies, the rage boiled over, which partially resulted in this as I need to do something constructive with my rage besides yell at people.
No worries man, you guys add our pub channel and squad up sometime. I don't think you'll end up with such a poor opinion of us.
We are just very active and play together a lot.
#Sand Castles
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Thor Odinson42
Molon Labe.
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.01.11 23:50:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:I'm not sure where you're getting your "observations" from....
We don't queue sync with Nyan San.
We don't queue sync much at all (it's literally been months since I've seen us do that, and we did it to practice intra squad tactics for PC).
If you don't like our proto suits (or those of us that run them), kill us enough to warrant stop using them.
Until then, you'll have to accept my apology for our killing you so much it warrants public QQ....or consider our squads a challenge to try to overcome....Leadfoot Well the match me and Thor are referencing had 10 of you.... so -shrugs- I know coincidences happen but its also not the first time. And no thnx Thor. I'm not saying your bad people. I actually know a few cool people from most of those corps, it doesn't change my opinion of the general tactics employed, even if only occasionally. And considering I spammed all 10 of you with hate mail, I doubt I would receive a happy welcome.
We Qsync some into FW, but we don't into pubs. But take a look at the monthly and weekly leaderboards, we have easily the most active corp in Dust. Lots of our vets still play the game. We are a PC corp, but people are just trying to have fun in pubs. When FW gets ironed out I'm sure it'll take some of the pressure off of pub stomping.
I like running proto. I love all my badass equipment. I like being able to keep the heavy I'm following alive. I love good fights. I like when both sides go balls to the wall for the win.
I'm not trying to recruit here, but there are some good corps out there. Being in a bigger pool of active, skilled, and experienced players will obviously improve the odds of you getting stomped on.
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
Public Disorder.
2510
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Posted - 2014.01.12 05:03:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:devonus durga wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:I'm not sure where you're getting your "observations" from....
We don't queue sync with Nyan San.
We don't queue sync much at all (it's literally been months since I've seen us do that, and we did it to practice intra squad tactics for PC).
If you don't like our proto suits (or those of us that run them), kill us enough to warrant stop using them.
Until then, you'll have to accept my apology for our killing you so much it warrants public QQ....or consider our squads a challenge to try to overcome....Leadfoot Well the match me and Thor are referencing had 10 of you.... so -shrugs- I know coincidences happen but its also not the first time. And no thnx Thor. I'm not saying your bad people. I actually know a few cool people from most of those corps, it doesn't change my opinion of the general tactics employed, even if only occasionally. And considering I spammed all 10 of you with hate mail, I doubt I would receive a happy welcome. We Qsync some into FW, but we don't into pubs. But take a look at the monthly and weekly leaderboards, we have easily the most active corp in Dust. Lots of our vets still play the game. We are a PC corp, but people are just trying to have fun in pubs. When FW gets ironed out I'm sure it'll take some of the pressure off of pub stomping. I like running proto. I love all my badass equipment. I like being able to keep the heavy I'm following alive. I love good fights. I like when both sides go balls to the wall for the win. I'm not trying to recruit here, but there are some good corps out there. Being in a bigger pool of active, skilled, and experienced players will obviously improve the odds of you getting stomped on. Can't beat em join em..... sorry ass solution to the problem.
Joining one of the many corps that play the game using team play wouldn't joining the problem it would be a proper introduction to Dust 514.
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
Public Disorder.
2511
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Posted - 2014.01.12 05:33:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Join us or die, sounds very nazishl to me. I shouldn't have to join a top 50 corp to have fun, and considering the tactics they use I would never join them.
If you read my comments previous to that one I complemented your squad on playing hard.
I'm putting you in the group that's playing the right way.
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
Public Disorder.
2511
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Posted - 2014.01.12 05:35:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:OK with well some top 50s yes, not saying the top 50 corps are all cheap, but its still a moot point if I have to join a larger better equipped corp just to have fun. And PS I still wouldn't have fun Cruz even if my other 5 squad mates are running full proto and owning I won't keep or gain half as much experience or have half as much fun. Since I'm lesser equipped experienced and they will kill everything before I can. I have done it, by accident, running solo where I'm on the same side as the somoes, and its bloodyboring.
By that logic wouldn't all the guys running BPOs for months be gods by now?
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
Public Disorder.
2512
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:45:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Nirwanda, I do run with experienced players, not often because I prefer to run with my corp mates if I can, but I do, and I do enjoy it. And I'm not that upset over it, I still love how everyone makes this out about me, when in my opinion I'm doing better then average for a newberry. I actually have a .78 kdr, 3500 kills, and .98 win loss ratio, with 331k wp generated, and only been playing science Christmas roughly. My butt is quite soft and pleasant and doesn't hurt much at all except after the occasional match.
But I'm not your average player, I trow myself solo into ambush to get better, I grind out hours and hours of sp and ask, I theory craft while my corp dallies around and try to teach the newer players in our corp what I have learned from experience and the guidance of more experienced players. And then I rage as I watch countless matches where newberries, corp mates, friends, are brutalized put down, and frustrated for no other reason then that the players that have been here longer can do that to them. That is my issue, that is my butthurt, and that is the reason for this thread.
Keep playing as hard as you are and the time will come. I appreciate the grind now, I've got 35 mil and can bring all sorts of roles to the battlefield.
Playing in a squad and learning together is how it's supposed to be done. Don't get cheap and look for quirky ways to get cheap kills. Keep banging away like you are and you'll be better for it.
It's better that you are here bitching than quitting. We've all been there.
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Eve Toon - Raylan Scott
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
Public Disorder.
2512
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:52:00 -
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Jake Bloodworth wrote:devonus durga wrote:Thor Odinson42 wrote:devonus durga wrote:Join us or die, sounds very nazishl to me. I shouldn't have to join a top 50 corp to have fun, and considering the tactics they use I would never join them. If you read my comments previous to that one I complemented your squad on playing hard. I'm putting you in the group that's playing the right way. And that's the problem, even running the right way, there is no competition. I burned through 400k risk trying to fight back that round, running with my whole squad pulling out the stops. We still stood no chance, there was no challenge, no fun, nothing, it was me and t of my corp mates pounding our head off the wall of 10 proto molons because we could only field maybe field 3 advance suits, and no protons. It sucked, period, and if it was an uncommon experience I would OK fine, so their out of ourleague and they beat us, but its practicy every damb match except on the weekends when the weekend warrior newberries come out to play since its the weekend. And I have a Corp, I have a moderate amount of experience sp and isk to throw around. But most of the people you steam role DONT, and they leave the game. I have lost 3 corp members this week be cause they just hated the game. What was I suppose to tell them? Don't worry it doesn't happen often? Because if it can happen 5 matches in a bloody row against different groups it sure as hell does. To stick around d through this **** for 6 months so that they can have the equipment and experience to compete? To go spend money on this game just so they can have a chance to possibly, maybe, if in a good squad, enjoy the game? Inwoukdnt drop a dime on this game since I know that I'll get rolled over in at least half the matches I play. That is what Dust is though. Barring the introduction of PvE, that is what Dust will remain. If you think 400k isk is "pulling out the " stops", then you are in for a rude awakening should you ever decide to get serious sand join a solid corp. I appreciate your desire to play casually, but you can't expect everyone to feel that way. You came here to shame proto players. You only managed to shame yourself IMO.
I think he's a very good example of what happens before people resort to roof camping and redline sniping. Changing the way payouts work would give more people incentive to push despite overwhelming odds.
I think payouts and incentives are the thing that's off in Dust. There are plenty of capable mercs in most of these pub matches that turn one sided. It's my opinion that they choose no to risk anything because it's economically wiser to just hide out and wait for the match to end.
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
Public Disorder.
2512
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Posted - 2014.01.12 20:53:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Member specific details.
Nyain San
Pu-taaaann: spams core locus grenades
Milkman- proto equipped madrugar blaster hav
Molon labe
Psychotic shooter: proto equipped madruga blast have, spawn camps in ambush and blind fires.
Demons garwulff: advanced equipped missile tank, possibly has proto equipment on tank as well.
Those two aren't in our corp
I'd damn sure welcome them if you know something I don't.
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Thor Odinson42
molon labe.
Public Disorder.
2512
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Posted - 2014.01.13 03:07:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:excillon wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:devonus durga wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:Please add me to your list:
Leadfoot10: Proto Caldari Logi and Assault. Generally runs a proto assault rail rifle (often with 2 damage mods) and a scanner. Uses proto equipment and has been seen spraying an SMG. Always runs in squads and usually as squad lead. Plays overly aggressive and has no gun game. Enjoys long walks on the beach, strafing, and QQ.
Have fun....Leadfoot Thanks for the info, but it not really a defining characteristic. A lot of protons run rail rifle, and scanners, and double damage mods. These things should be expected of all protons and do not necessitate specific mention. Core focus grenade spam and spawn camping proto tanks, do however. I don't run core locus grenades, nor do I spam grenades. I'll have to work on that and get back to you.  What's really funny about this whole thing, and it was mentioned by a few others if you'd care to listen, is that we don't really proto stomp, and certainly not nearly as much as some other corps. What we do like to do is win. And we try. For instance, you will never see me give up on a round. Never. If that means I die a dozen or more times and lose one or two million in a round, so be it. That's better than quitting. So, again, if we've killed you enough to warrant mention as one of two corps to proto stomp, I'm sorry. Keep gridning. Keep getting better at the game. If you've got the skill, eventually the tide will turn (generally somewhere around 8 or 10m SP is when we see it in our newer players -- sometimes earlier or later depending on their inherent skill). And the offer to squad with us, talk about this whole situation, and pick up some new tactics is still open. #sand castles Again, if you actually ran with us I think you would see the truth of things rather than judging us because you ran into a few buzzsaw Molon Labe squads, got beaten badly, and were in a rush to label us as bad guys -- when in fact we are really no different from you or your corp, except perhaps we have a bit more experience and SP. Take care....Leadfoot Really...because I know a few guys in your corp who not only admit to protostomping but will call out the ones who do also. So basically your statement can be blown apart by members of your own corp. Nice try though. Myself also, I have two friends that I squad with from time to time that say the same thing, and have a player in my corp that has told me of the mandatory running of superior equipment, he used to be in Molon Labe, sooooo yeah, I'll back that up.
Mandatory? Lol
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