Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:27:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:devonus durga wrote:Regardless I made the mistake f trying to reason with you, no clue why. Your not going to admit your wrong or concede that you have to be cheap to pad your sp/kdr/isk/ego. I don't care for any of that, i just play casually that why i use proto because it is just the best stuff and i can do a lot more with it. If i wanted to go hardcore would i not just use standard suits and try to save ISK and camp. I don't care about ISK thats why i use proto. I'm not saying running proto is bad, you worked hard put the time in got the gear, go ahead run it. Just don't feel the need to run with 5-10 other people all the time constantly. And I actually almost added your corp to the watch list lol. Its not people running proto that ruins the game, its the peoplwho do it in such a way as take the fun out of it for everyone else in the match that does.
So you're saying that we squading up is as "bad" as running proto?
I absolutely don't understand where you are coming from. This game is based on teamplay and social interactions and skill grinding. TBH, i'm not good enough to turn a profit from running proto all the time and I'm ok with that. When I have the ISK to pull out my proto CalAssault and Kaalakiota Rail Rifle I do because I did the grind for the SP and ISK to allow me to do that.
In reference, to the comment about "don't feel the need to run with 5-10 other people all the time constantly"...that's kinda the point of a corp so you have players of a known quality running with. Maybe even they are your friends and it's fun. Also, when I start a random squad and gather players it only takes a few matches before you start accruing better players by guys joining after a match when guys check the leader boards and see if you have an open slot. Many times when I join a random squad I look for Corp names that are known quantities...mostly because they probably have mics; this also leads to some pretty good squads out there.
OSG routinely runs ADV or MLT gear and does pretty well...mostly because it makes us rely on team play more and makes us a little better for when our guys do run proto. Teamwork is OP and that's one thing that should never be nerfed. |
Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.11 18:31:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:When I run into the occasional squad or two yeah, when I run against the same 10 peopl in 3 or 4 matches? Nahhh
And abusing something that is broken, is OK? Be it matchmaking, the equipment lag issue, tank spam, etc.
And I didn't say team work was bad, I run in a squad regulary, heck I don't even mind que syncing if its not 12 guys all running proto. Half the fun of the game is running together. But there are corps who abuse their power, the system, current OP weapons/mechanics, etc, and just make the game no fun for anyone else. When you ruin the game for other people, its wrong, period, and there are certain corps that do this consistently, and the only reason they do it s because they can.
That's what this topic is about. Not protons in general, not teamwork, its about those who consistently abuse the current state of the game and conti uously do it. sver and exiles are good about it usually, thiwr just there BC when they do do it, new players and less equipped players need to be prepared.
I understand where you are coming from...however, you play EVE? Check out how folks view the CFC or Goons. Any PVP game has this facet to some degree. The EVE / Dust universe just bring it into sharp focus as a factor of the game play.
I'm on the receiving end of pub ambush beatdowns as often as I help deliver them...I'm an average solo player and excellent teamplayer. Everytime I see a guy on the board go 43/1 or get rolled by a Nyain San pub ambush ROFLSTOMP in less than 5min it doesn't make me upset at anyone but myself and I keep trying to get better.
Again, I understand your beef with the situation, however, if you have groups of very experienced guys that want to run together the outcome is pretty much forecasted. To me the current solution is to get better individually and build a stronger Corps so you aren't on the receiving end as much. That said, the long term answer clearly has to be baked into the game via matchmaking, PVE options, corp battles, ect. |