Its not nearly as terrible as it sounds. Slaves are cared for and treated better than most of those in Gallentean slums could ever hope for, they are educated in the ways of the Amarr, which is not such a bad thing, considering most lessons would be on Amarrian culture and history, it also makes sense because no racial groups educations systems are impartial.

Holder's aren't required to free slaves though they consider it their sacred duty to strive to have those under their care accept the Amarrian faith. Again not so bad, eventually exposure to one cultural group or another rubs off one people (we are now exception IRL) most Minmatar slaves spend their lives being educated this way, much like many free Minmatar come to the opposite conclusion. Such is just how you were raised. There are no lies in this education, in the same manner Amarr are educated so too are the slaves.

Do you wish to mention that there are example of Minmatar returning to the Republic, holding their ceremonies because they continue to embrace the faith being abused and killed for their choices?

Gallente is like sex.

Even bad sex is good.



Yup, even that kind.

As many people have said to me, I shall adjust my comment for you...

"No one wants your (Faith) Freedom!"

Comment is an insult as well, scum like you shame the Gallente.

People like Arkena, Jakar, etc those are you Gallentean elite...the rest of you are disappointments.

We'll the slaves might be treated "well" but they are treated well in the same respect as toy poodles and ponies are treated well. There owners can punish them as they see fit, within Amarrian law, and can even change their names if they want. They separate families and limit the exposure of people to certain groups in an attempt of de facto breeding. They are property. You make it sound like they are Janissaries, but at least Janissaries could hold high positions in politics and were paid, they were also allowed to marry freely into the families of high and low classes. No they are not like indentured servants, indentured servants were under contracts or they had fallen into debt with the understanding of what could happen.

What's that? I couldn't hear you over your Gods astounding lack of existence

Comments like this only show that you are a close minded individual and incapable of performing a proper argument.

I would attempt such a feat, but I was told not to stoop to other peoples levels, so I must hold fast. Just because your people have yet to enter the future, does not mean that I must help you up. There's a reason you side with the Caldari, but...I should stop the insults for now. A pack of dogs is still a threat when riled up too much.

I would attempt such a feat, but I was told not to stoop to other peoples levels, so I must hold fast. Just because your people have yet to enter the future, does not mean that I must help you up. There's a reason you side with the Caldari, but...I should stop the insults for now. A pack of dogs is still a threat when riled up too much.

Just going to copy/paste this from another thread, figure it could use a little more attention. Note that it may sound like I am portraying the Amarr and Caldari as pure good and Gallente and Minmatar are pure evil, but that is not the case. Since everyone seems to believe the opposite, I thought I'd bring out some points refuting, that is all.

No one is trying to mask anything, this is simply how things are. And no, you don't have to be a reformist to believe Amarr and Caldari have plenty of good sides. Try to keep an open mind on the matter.


You see, True, it's people like this who make all your efforts null. "No matter how you mask it"? We're not trying to mask anything.

The Amarr don't just go an enslave anyone willy nilly. All the races they enslave are primitive and aggressive. That does not exclude the Minmatar, who are perhaps the most violent culture New Eden has ever seen. When Amarr "enslaves" them (really, they are guiding them as a parent figure) they transform them into more peaceful human beings that bring more stability to New Eden. Oh and yeah, Amarr are all about peace and stability among New Eden, that is the whole premise of their religion and it is also evident by how they are watching over the other three empires.

And you're right, Caldari aren't space communists. In fact, they are space capitalists which is the EXACT opposite. And where do you get that they are trying to hate people?

Oh and guess what? Amarr does free all their slaves, that is part of their culture, it is not the acts of reformists.
Oh and guess what? Caldari do have social liberties, it is part of their culture, it is not the acts of reformists.


Meanwhile, you have the Minmatar who as already stated are perhaps the most brutal culture New Eden has ever seen and you have the Gallente who have a sincere lack of respect for human life the main thing keeping their economy afloat is the drug cartel, they treat their POW's worse than anything you've heard of on Earth, and they willingly accept their citizens as "collateral damage" if it means capturing the enemy.

True, stop feeding the troll.

I 'm a mercenary, I care nothing for politics or religion I fight for the empires that give me the gear and money I need

Trolls have no effect on me.

Considering I was the biggest troll Dark Souls ever saw....or atleast I like to think so....forcing 9 (confirmed) players to quit the game due to my success at Gravelording, and general douche baggery both in game and in the hate mail responding game....I know their tricks.

It doesn't matter how much he argues, I know I am right.

It's just RP fun anyways

Man some people need to put New Eden into context.

Be thankful you guys aren't playing a Warhammer 40k game where the 1000 humans a day are sacrificed to the Emperor on the Golden Throne to ensure his continued survival and his almost omnipotent psychic potential to guide humanity through the vastness of space where innumerable monsters, aliens, malign gods, and implacable enemies await man kind, ready to tear it apart at a moments notice....

Above is ******* terrifying.....democracy does not hold humanity together. The Will of the Emperor does.

"Blood for the blood god."
-Amarr citizen

GORK AN' MORK!
- Minmatar Citizen

Yeah but its not good RP when you do is insult and regurgitate the same stuff I am proving irrelevant and pointless.

I'm not nerd enough to know whether to take offense to this.

Orkz are pretty cool and really are the Minmatar of 40k..... angry, creative, tribal, bastards that can make anything out of trash.

Orkz are pretty cool and really are the Minmatar of 40k..... angry, creative, tribal, bastards that can make anything out of trash.

You prove nothing by spewing your ignorance at me, but I see your point. There is no sense talking with an Amarr, anyone who sees a Caldari as anything other than a speed bump in the cosmic timeline has no business in New Eden.

We will liberate this Universe from the shackles of your peoples inability, and we will bring a bright and glorious future to all who accept it with open arms.

See above. People hear the word "slavery" and immediately associate it with all these predetermined thoughts. Amarr "slavery" isn't remotely similar to what so many people here instantly believe it is.

I fail to see your point. I do not respect you (IC not at all OCC sure) but I am not mistreating you......

Example of Holders exploiting their slaves and subjects are records of public history with those corrupt Holders being subject to slavery themselves or the rulings of the Speakers of Truth.....Articio Kor Azor is a prime example of this, who mended his ways post ruling, and has since gone on to work closely with the development of the Anmatar.

As for the breeding of Kamieras...well I cannot say that is not unkind, but love is irrelevant in the service of God, something must be done, and siring such strong and noble warriors is a higher honour than many realise.

However in Amarrian society no low born citizens marry into the upper echelon, such is the bane of being nobility and holding together the greatest empire in existence. Marriage between Minmatar and Amarr is not common, but not uncommon though. The low born like myself are very luck. I will get to marry who I choose one day....

However, at least there are no tensions between the various races in the Amarr Empire,

I would suspect they smell the same too. It is a fair comparison. Unthinking horde with no honor.

I know I keep referencing Janissaries and they sound like they are from EVE but they are actually a slave warrior class of the long gone Ottoman Empire, similar to Kaimeras.

Here if you want to know more.

You also forgot to mention how badly they failed