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Darken-Sol
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:00:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Atiim wrote:Ion Crush wrote:The Amarr attacked the Jove with the intention of conquering and enslaving them. The Jove are neither violent or primitive. The Jove have few numbers and the Amarrians perceived them as weak and easily conquerable. You also forgot to mention how badly they failed That doesnt matter at all. They saw the chance to conquer a society and that's that. I really hate it when people try to be apologetics about this ****. Accept it that no faction is good. oh and that thing about POWs, I suggest reading the chronicals regarding each races method of torture and then kindly stfu whoever said the POW comment. There are no good guys in New Eden, accept it you idiots.
has it been covered that good and evil are just concepts which are socially acceptable. Majority gets to rule minority thru military might.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
4967
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:01:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Atiim wrote:Ion Crush wrote:The Amarr attacked the Jove with the intention of conquering and enslaving them. The Jove are neither violent or primitive. The Jove have few numbers and the Amarrians perceived them as weak and easily conquerable. You also forgot to mention how badly they failed That doesnt matter at all. They saw the chance to conquer a society and that's that. I really hate it when people try to be apologetics about this ****. Accept it that no faction is good. oh and that thing about POWs, I suggest reading the chronicals regarding each races method of torture and then kindly stfu whoever said the POW comment. There are no good guys in New Eden, accept it you idiots.
No....you misunderstand.
I'm not interested in what is done....merely that it is done by those who would champion the fair treatment of humans. Why do the Gallente not simply lock up the Caldari women, why do they **** them as well as the torture?
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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First Prophet
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
1338
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:01:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:
There are no good guys in New Eden, accept it you idiots.
I'm a pretty good guy.
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:02:00 -
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gbghg wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:gbghg wrote:I like the descriptions but the amarr one seems like its trying to twist the slavery angle into soething else, idk might have just been the way you said it. See above. People hear the word "slavery" and immediately associate it with all these predetermined thoughts. Amarr "slavery" isn't remotely similar to what so many people here instantly believe it is. i know, and you make a good point, but like aztec said it's about the reasons for the reclamation, it just feels like the words your using are trying to sugarcoat things a bit much. i have no problem with you trying to cast the amarr in a better light, hell i think its a good thing, giving people a better overview the factions is a good thing. i just feel that the whole "parental" angle you were aiming for is the wrong one, maybe something more along the lines of how they believe it is their religious duty to unite new eden and how they accomplish this with means ranging from forced reeducation of planetary populations to missionaries and the like. you could also focus on the spiritual side of their faith, idk, that parental angle made me a bit uncomfortable and felt off to me.
Forced reeducation? The worlds the Amarr have reclaimed never had more than a primitive education compared to how technologically advanced the Amarr were after thousands of years. There was no reeducating, just educating. Sure, there was an Amarr bias on it, but that's no different than people in America being educated with an American bias or people in the UK being educated with a UK bias, for example.
Maybe you don't like the whole "parental" thing, but I find it quite apt. Most "slave" owners genuinely care about their "slaves" and one of the highest honors to have in Amarr society is for your "slaves" to become freed and become a model citizen of the Amarr Empire. Of course, there are a good chunk of people who are brutal in the matter but those people are criminals and should be viewed no differently than the brutal criminals of any other society.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Maken Tosch
DUST University
Ivy League
5908
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:08:00 -
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It's like I'm watching Fox News or something.
OK, CCP. When are knives finally going to be improved?
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3606
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:09:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Atiim wrote:Ion Crush wrote:The Amarr attacked the Jove with the intention of conquering and enslaving them. The Jove are neither violent or primitive. The Jove have few numbers and the Amarrians perceived them as weak and easily conquerable. You also forgot to mention how badly they failed That doesnt matter at all. They saw the chance to conquer a society and that's that. I really hate it when people try to be apologetics about this ****. Accept it that no faction is good. oh and that thing about POWs, I suggest reading the chronicals regarding each races method of torture and then kindly stfu whoever said the POW comment. There are no good guys in New Eden, accept it you idiots. No....you misunderstand. I'm not interested in what is done....merely that it is done by those who would champion the fair treatment of humans. Why do the Gallente not simply lock up the Caldari women, why do they **** them as well as the torture?
Because humans are evil and all the races ideals are just a facade.
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True Adamance
Scions of Athra
4969
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:19:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Atiim wrote:Ion Crush wrote:The Amarr attacked the Jove with the intention of conquering and enslaving them. The Jove are neither violent or primitive. The Jove have few numbers and the Amarrians perceived them as weak and easily conquerable. You also forgot to mention how badly they failed That doesnt matter at all. They saw the chance to conquer a society and that's that. I really hate it when people try to be apologetics about this ****. Accept it that no faction is good. oh and that thing about POWs, I suggest reading the chronicals regarding each races method of torture and then kindly stfu whoever said the POW comment. There are no good guys in New Eden, accept it you idiots. No....you misunderstand. I'm not interested in what is done....merely that it is done by those who would champion the fair treatment of humans. Why do the Gallente not simply lock up the Caldari women, why do they **** them as well as the torture? Because humans are evil and all the races ideals are just a facade.
So the Gallente have not faith in the ideals they supposedly uphold?
To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi.
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
90
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:20:00 -
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Ion Crush wrote:The Amarr attacked the Jove with the intention of conquering and enslaving them. The Jove are neither violent or primitive. The Jove have few numbers and the Amarrians perceived them as weak and easily conquerable.
one does not simply attack the Jove
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9009
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:21:00 -
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True Adamance wrote: So the Gallente have not faith in the ideals they supposedly uphold?
We have faith in ourselves, and that's all we need to liberate the Universe unto glorious freedom and equality, even if it must be realized through the burning husks of a thousand worlds.
Vids / O7
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3606
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:22:00 -
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The Government doesnt, no.
I believe I've already addressed the polarity between the Gallente people and the Federation in quite a few lengthy post. |
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4149
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:23:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:True Adamance wrote: So the Gallente have not faith in the ideals they supposedly uphold? We have faith in ourselves, and that's all we need to liberate the Universe unto glorious freedom and equality, even if it must be realized through the burning husks of a thousand worlds.
Freedom and equality through burning down worlds, you say?
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
90
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:23:00 -
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there are no good guys or bad guys... there are just different groups of people who want different results
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
Kherokior warrior
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9009
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:26:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:True Adamance wrote: So the Gallente have not faith in the ideals they supposedly uphold? We have faith in ourselves, and that's all we need to liberate the Universe unto glorious freedom and equality, even if it must be realized through the burning husks of a thousand worlds. Freedom and equality through burning down worlds, you say?
There can be neither so long as a single Caldari draws breath. Anyone who helps them in their struggle will regretfully meet the same fate. Until that right has been wronged, there can be no peace, no freedom, no equality.
Lay down your arms and we will consider negotiations with your people.
Vids / O7
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4149
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:28:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:there are no good guys or bad guys... there are just different groups of people who want different results
And the funny part is, the Gallente and Amarr want pretty much the same result. They are both expansionists looking to conquer all the stars under the ideology of uniting all human beings. The difference is the Amarr do so through religion which teaches to care for and respect others, while the Gallente do so through democracy which teaches individual freedom and to care for just yourself.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
90
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:28:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:True Adamance wrote: So the Gallente have not faith in the ideals they supposedly uphold? We have faith in ourselves, and that's all we need to liberate the Universe unto glorious freedom and equality, even if it must be realized through the burning husks of a thousand worlds. Freedom and equality through burning down worlds, you say? There can be neither so long as a single Caldari draws breath. Anyone who helps them in their struggle will regretfully meet the same fate. Until that right has been wronged, there can be no peace, no freedom, no equality. Lay down your arms and we will consider negotiations with your people.
im pretty sure the Gallente are still persecuting Minmatar in there own space from that "assassination" that happened a while back, but I could be wrong
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
Kherokior warrior
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9009
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:31:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote: im pretty sure the Gallente are still persecuting Minmatar in there own space from that "assassination" that happened a while back, but I could be wrong
Criminals will be treated as such. Any attack against the Gallente Federation will not go unpunished. It is likely that these few rebels were still highly brainwashed from prolonged exposure to the Amarr.
Investigations are still undergoing, and they will receive proper care and treatment until they have been deemed guilty in a court of law.
Vids / O7
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4149
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:31:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:True Adamance wrote: So the Gallente have not faith in the ideals they supposedly uphold? We have faith in ourselves, and that's all we need to liberate the Universe unto glorious freedom and equality, even if it must be realized through the burning husks of a thousand worlds. Freedom and equality through burning down worlds, you say? There can be neither so long as a single Caldari draws breath. Anyone who helps them in their struggle will regretfully meet the same fate. Until that right has been wronged, there can be no peace, no freedom, no equality. Lay down your arms and we will consider negotiations with your people.
Really? Because I don't recall the Caldari threatening your Federation. They didn't wish to take away your values, they simply wished to retain their own. Fact of the matter is the Caldari people as a whole are happy with their society, but the Federation deems it impure and makes it their responsibility to cleanse it. If the Federation is all about freedom, why not allow the Caldari State the freedom to retain their identity? Especially as they were content to not interfere with Federation affairs should they be given independence?
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3606
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:33:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:knight guard fury wrote:there are no good guys or bad guys... there are just different groups of people who want different results And the funny part is, the Gallente and Amarr want pretty much the same result. They are both expansionists looking to conquer all the stars under the ideology of uniting all human beings. The difference is the Amarr do so through religion which teaches to care for and respect others, while the Gallente do so through democracy which teaches individual freedom and to care for just yourself.
and each one is bullshit.
The people may mean good. But each government is ass backwards from their ideals |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9009
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:34:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Really? Because I don't recall the Caldari threatening your Federation. They didn't wish to take away your values, they simply wished to retain their own. Fact of the matter is the Caldari people as a whole are happy with their society, but the Federation deems it impure and makes it their responsibility to cleanse it. If the Federation is all about freedom, why not allow the Caldari State the freedom to retain their identity? Especially as they were content to not interfere with Federation affairs should they be given independence?
We made the mistake of reaching out to the Caldari once. It will not happen again.
Make no mistake. We are at war, and we do not want prisoners.
Vids / O7
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4149
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:34:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:knight guard fury wrote: im pretty sure the Gallente are still persecuting Minmatar in there own space from that "assassination" that happened a while back, but I could be wrong Criminals will be treated as such. Any attack against the Gallente Federation will not go unpunished. It is likely that these few rebels were still highly brainwashed from prolonged exposure to the Amarr. Investigations are still undergoing, and they will receive proper care and treatment until they have been deemed guilty in a court of law.
Of course, the Gallente can do no wrong. Definitely don't bring up the fact that it was a Federation citizen who went on a killing spree at a Matari tribal festival killing 59 including the Ray of the Matar. Definitely don't bring up the fact that the so called Matari "criminal" was attacked by a gang of racists Federation citizens and was only trying to defend himself. Definitely don't bring up the fact that the Matari were never truly welcomed into the Federation by most of your citizens.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
92
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:34:00 -
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I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me.
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
Kherokior warrior
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4149
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:36:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Really? Because I don't recall the Caldari threatening your Federation. They didn't wish to take away your values, they simply wished to retain their own. Fact of the matter is the Caldari people as a whole are happy with their society, but the Federation deems it impure and makes it their responsibility to cleanse it. If the Federation is all about freedom, why not allow the Caldari State the freedom to retain their identity? Especially as they were content to not interfere with Federation affairs should they be given independence? We made the mistake of reaching out to the Caldari once. It will not happen again. Make no mistake. We are at war, and we do not want prisoners.
Actually the Gallente Caldari War ended some time ago. Look it up. There are now only some fights over a few contested systems in low sec, which are really only fought by the capsuleers and mercenaries.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9009
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:38:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:Really? Because I don't recall the Caldari threatening your Federation. They didn't wish to take away your values, they simply wished to retain their own. Fact of the matter is the Caldari people as a whole are happy with their society, but the Federation deems it impure and makes it their responsibility to cleanse it. If the Federation is all about freedom, why not allow the Caldari State the freedom to retain their identity? Especially as they were content to not interfere with Federation affairs should they be given independence? We made the mistake of reaching out to the Caldari once. It will not happen again. Make no mistake. We are at war, and we do not want prisoners. Actually the Gallente Caldari War ended some time ago. Look it up. There are now only some fights over a few contested systems in low sec, which are really only fought by the capsuleers and mercenaries.
Officially ended, some time ago.
Vids / O7
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
93
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:39:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:knight guard fury wrote: im pretty sure the Gallente are still persecuting Minmatar in there own space from that "assassination" that happened a while back, but I could be wrong Criminals will be treated as such. Any attack against the Gallente Federation will not go unpunished. It is likely that these few rebels were still highly brainwashed from prolonged exposure to the Amarr. Investigations are still undergoing, and they will receive proper care and treatment until they have been deemed guilty in a court of law. Of course, the Gallente can do no wrong. Definitely don't bring up the fact that it was a Federation citizen who went on a killing spree at a Matari tribal festival killing 59 including the Ray of the Matar. Definitely don't bring up the fact that the so called Matari "criminal" was attacked by a gang of racists Federation citizens and was only trying to defend himself. Definitely don't bring up the fact that the Matari were never truly welcomed into the Federation by most of your citizens.
killing the ray of matar is like, god appearing in front of me and then someone out of the blue just coming up and killing him with no mercy as I just watch and cant help.
and for that I will never help the Gallente in FRW or in any other matter.
(just as I am almost done reading the ray of matar chronicles, you Gallente douchebags shall die)
In Rust We Trust,
true to the Republic,
Kherokior warrior
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4149
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:41:00 -
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knight guard fury wrote:I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me.
You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
9009
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:47:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:knight guard fury wrote:I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me. You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader.
It takes time to wash off the presence of the Amarr, the Minmatar have the best of both worlds in this: revenge on their captors, and freedom in the new New Eden.
Our goals are mutual, and in time, we will come to embrace each other as brothers and sisters.
Vids / O7
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Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
3606
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:49:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:knight guard fury wrote:I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me. You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader.
The Chronicles never say most as you say. It always references it to some or a lot, but certainly not most.
There's much dirt about the federation and its policies but you can do so without stretching words to prove your point.
You'll never catch me saying most Amarr agree with Vitox poisoning so please, use facts, there's certainly a lot out there. |
Ronan Elsword
Dead Six Initiative
Lokun Listamenn
117
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:51:00 -
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Badwolf Jones wrote:True Adamance wrote:
See and this is what I think CCP needs in their descriptions, all sound positive, all have one or two negative points which counter balance the good.
The PoW thing is a worrying thing though, glad I brought that to light for everyone.
Just so everyone is aware, each race has their own ways of dealing with information gathering from prisoners. There have been several interesting chronicles written about this, for example here is one about the Amarr: http://community.eveonline.com/backstory/chronicles/methods-of-torture-the-amarr/
Don't forget about the other three races
[*] Gallente [*] Minmatar [*] Caldari
"Nice House you have here Gallente, you can just feel the Freedom."
-Looks in Closet-
"Dear God"
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Aero Yassavi
Scions of Athra
4149
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Posted - 2013.12.17 04:51:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:knight guard fury wrote:I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me. You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader. It takes time to wash off the presence of the Amarr, the Minmatar have the best of both worlds in this: revenge on their captors, and freedom in the new New Eden. Your goals are mutual, and in time, we will come to embrace each other as brothers and sisters.
Our your goals mutual? The Anmatar sure don't buy into your brainwashing. And let's just pretend hypothetically you defeated the Amarr Empire (in your dreams), what reason do the Matari have to believe you won't treat them any better than the Caldari? What reason do they have to believe your citizens will end all racist prejudice against them? What reason do they have to believe you won't cast them to the slums?
Meanwhile, the Anmatar are eating well, getting proper health care, updated infrastructure, higher education, and proper admittance into the Amarr Empire.
Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
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knight guard fury
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
93
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Posted - 2013.12.17 05:00:00 -
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I already dislike the Gallente ways of torture, too F*** up
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