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Aero Yassavi wrote:

gbghg wrote:

Aero Yassavi wrote:

gbghg wrote:

I like the descriptions but the amarr one seems like its trying to twist the slavery angle into soething else, idk might have just been the way you said it.

See above. People hear the word "slavery" and immediately associate it with all these predetermined thoughts. Amarr "slavery" isn't remotely similar to what so many people here instantly believe it is.

i know, and you make a good point, but like aztec said it's about the reasons for the reclamation, it just feels like the words your using are trying to sugarcoat things a bit much. i have no problem with you trying to cast the amarr in a better light, hell i think its a good thing, giving people a better overview the factions is a good thing. i just feel that the whole "parental" angle you were aiming for is the wrong one, maybe something more along the lines of how they believe it is their religious duty to unite new eden and how they accomplish this with means ranging from forced reeducation of planetary populations to missionaries and the like. you could also focus on the spiritual side of their faith, idk, that parental angle made me a bit uncomfortable and felt off to me.

Forced reeducation? The worlds the Amarr have reclaimed never had more than a primitive education compared to how technologically advanced the Amarr were after thousands of years. There was no reeducating, just educating. Sure, there was an Amarr bias on it, but that's no different than people in America being educated with an American bias or people in the UK being educated with a UK bias, for example.

Maybe you don't like the whole "parental" thing, but I find it quite apt. Most "slave" owners genuinely care about their "slaves" and one of the highest honors to have in Amarr society is for your "slaves" to become freed and become a model citizen of the Amarr Empire. Of course, there are a good chunk of people who are brutal in the matter but those people are criminals and should be viewed no differently than the brutal criminals of any other society.

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DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 9012	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:11:00 - [121] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: I already dislike the Gallente ways of torture, too F*** up What, it seemed plenty civil to me "Here," he held up a syringe, "one last shot. This'll be quiet and calm." He leaned in and injected Sebastian with the contents. "Your vision will go, then your consciousness. I'll be back in a while to get your body." "Thank you," Sebastian said. "Don't mention it." Vids / O7
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4151	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:12:00 - [122] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me. You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader. The Chronicles never say most as you say. It always references it to some or a lot, but certainly not most. There's much dirt about the federation and its policies but you can do so without stretching words to prove your point. You'll never catch me saying most Amarr agree with Vitox poisoning so please, use facts, there's certainly a lot out there. There's more than just chronicles, https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Modern_Era_of_the_Gallente_Federation#Amarr_Revelation "Even if the Federation was high on victory against the State, military leaders knew that opening a second full-scale war against the Amarr Empire would be fatal. Nonetheless, for a long time, the Federation government observed and studied the Minmatar, realizing that they could be used to weaken the Amarr Empire. However, they realized that open action would force hostilities with the Empire, so they were only able to covertly supply the Minmatar rebels with supplies and materiel." This flat out states that the Federation used the Minmatar to weaken the Amarr Empire, and did so secretly to avoid direct hostilities with the Amarr. But why would the Gallente want to weaken the Amarr? Well there's a bunch of other good quotes for that too. "The Federation government kept strict control of information regarding the Amarr, fearing that the revelation of the Federation not being the sole and collective representative of human civilization would undermine the entire unionGÇÖs purpose. The highest levels of the Federation slowly became aware of the AmarrGÇÖs practice of slavery, something that would be considered unforgivable by the population." This right here clearly states that the Federation goverment planned to use Amarr's "slavery" as their campaign line to get their own people to hate the Amarr before they even were aware of who they were. Never judge a book by it's cover, eh? Guess that doesn't apply to the Gallente. They were so afraid their Federation wouldn't represent the entire cluster that they had to demonize any other advanced civilization before formally meeting. "Having encountered the only other interstellar civilization that was comparable to the size and scope of the Federation, many citizens across countless worlds realized that the union they had signed membership of was no longer the sole representative of humanity. There were several cases of instability, which included protests and short-lived attempts at further secessions (something the Caldari tried and failed to exploit)." Right here goes on to show that as the Federation citizens learned they weren't the only representation of the cluster, many began to try and secede, like the Caldari. Now why oh why would the Federation fear this? After all, if these worlds were admitted into the Federation surely they also believe in freedom and liberty? No, sounds more like a power control issue. It is not stretching anything to say that corrupt government officials feared the power loss from worlds breaking away from the Federation, even if they were to continue maintaining freedom and liberty which is supposedly what they are all about. "There would also be a cultural renaissance, particularly amongst the ethnic Gallente, as the result of first contact with the Amarr. To many, the Amarr Empire was perceived to resemble one of their planetside feudal kingdoms from ancient times, that had managed to retain its pre-industrial culture into space and across the stars. Although this oversimplified the complex nuances of a similarly interstellar empire, these Gallente found the Amarr fascinating, despite the disagreements about slavery. The fact that the Amarr were still institutionally religious and conducted themselves in a way that was seen as anachronistic of the spacefaring era was a point that several Federal citizens took to eagerly." As this quote shows, before the Federation government began to demonize the Amarr Empire to retain their own power, many of the first citizens of the Federation to come in contact with the Amarr actually envied them. Crazy to think how fondly so many Gallenteans viewed the Amarr Empire before their government interfered with anything. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 854	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:16:00 - [123] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me. You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader. It takes time to wash off the presence of the Amarr, the Minmatar have the best of both worlds in this: revenge on their captors, and freedom in the new New Eden. Our goals are mutual, and in time, we will come to embrace each other as brothers and sisters. like your parents do?
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 94	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:23:00 - [124] - Quote sure he gave him a syringe at the end but what he did to him before that is F*** up. I don't see much wrong with the Minmatar ways of torture for they do it more, "tribal" and for a good reason, the masters seemed a bit evil when I read around that part but that was also for a reason I suppose. I would choose to be a Minmatar torturer than any other IMO. they have meaning and reason to doing it and have ways of teaching others to see why they do what they do In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 94	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:43:00 - [125] - Quote so far I find the amarr and the Minmatar more civilized in there ways of torture. the amarr seem nice and patient about it and the Minmatar seem more tribal and reasonable. I prefer the Minmatar way but wouldn't mind being tortured by the amarr(even though I might be turned to ashes by lasers) In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 95	Posted - 2013.12.17 05:58:00 - [126] - Quote so far I see it this way. Caldari - acceptable Minmatar - acceptable Gallente - unacceptable Amarr - acceptable In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4154	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:01:00 - [127] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: so far I see it this way. Caldari - acceptable Minmatar - acceptable Gallente - unacceptable Amarr - acceptable We share the same views Even I do not hate the Minmatar, they are actually alright in my opinion. I only fight them because Amarr are my favorite and that's who we fight in FW, but I'd love to do Amarr vs Gallente FW if it were ever made possible. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 95	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:04:00 - [128] - Quote lol, we took the time to read all of them In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1369	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:05:00 - [129] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Why are you here? Go to the Intergalactic Summit. Nobody but other RP'ers care, everyone else is just going to use the race that has the best equipment. (Minmatar, at the moment, that's why we win all the FW matches.) They are convinced that the Amarr and Caldari have a harder time winning in FW because of the way CCP markets the factions. To be honest it should be backward, more hardcore players should be more prone to pick Caldari and Amarr. So this all circles back to the fact that most people want to be Gallante and Minmatar while Caldari are third popular and Amarr are the least popular. My theory is that there's something fundamental in the attraction the Ammarian race has for players who don't have the heart for a real fight. Whereas on the Minmatar side, we're just getting warmed up. I support SP rollover.
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 95	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:08:00 - [130] - Quote even though caldari basically shun the tortured, they punish them by giving them horrible images at any given time. the Minmatar torture for purpose and reason the amarr torture for traitors, spies, agents, etc. the Gallente torture to make examples of in the most brutal and horrible of ways In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior

Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3607	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:11:00 - [131] - Quote Aero Yassavi when the hell did I deny that we weren't using the minmatar? Get your head out of your ass please.
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4154	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:14:00 - [132] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Why are you here? Go to the Intergalactic Summit. Nobody but other RP'ers care, everyone else is just going to use the race that has the best equipment. (Minmatar, at the moment, that's why we win all the FW matches.) They are convinced that the Amarr and Caldari have a harder time winning in FW because of the way CCP markets the factions. To be honest it should be backward, more hardcore players should be more prone to pick Caldari and Amarr. So this all circles back to the fact that most people want to be Gallante and Minmatar while Caldari are third popular and Amarr are the least popular. My theory is that there's something fundamental in the attraction the Ammarian race has for players who don't have the heart for a real fight. Whereas on the Minmatar side, we're just getting warmed up. I hope you Minmatar are enjoying beating all the random Amarr blueberries and thinking you are dominating because of it, meanwhile when it is a fair match with both teams properly q-synced the Amarr come out on top from my experience. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 97	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:15:00 - [133] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: so far I see it this way. Caldari - acceptable Minmatar - acceptable Gallente - unacceptable Amarr - acceptable We share the same views Even I do not hate the Minmatar, they are actually alright in my opinion. I only fight them because Amarr are my favorite and that's who we fight in FW, but I'd love to do Amarr vs Gallente FW if it were ever made possible. there's a possibility I may revert to being anmatar, but im still loyal to the republic In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4154	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:16:00 - [134] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Aero Yassavi when the hell did I deny that we weren't using the minmatar? Get your head out of your ass please. "The Chronicles never say most as you say. It always references it to some or a lot, but certainly not most." You said that in response to me making the point that the Gallente are using the Minmatar as puppets of war. Was I wrong in assuming you were referring to that? It's ok to admit defeat sometimes. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 424	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:18:00 - [135] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: ... I hope you Minmatar are enjoying beating all the random Amarr blueberries and thinking you are dominating because of it, meanwhile when it is a fair match with both teams properly q-synced the Amarr come out on top from my experience. Alas, I find myself in agreement.
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4155	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:19:00 - [136] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: so far I see it this way. Caldari - acceptable Minmatar - acceptable Gallente - unacceptable Amarr - acceptable We share the same views Even I do not hate the Minmatar, they are actually alright in my opinion. I only fight them because Amarr are my favorite and that's who we fight in FW, but I'd love to do Amarr vs Gallente FW if it were ever made possible. there's a possibility I may revert to being anmatar, but im still loyal to the republic There's quite a few Anmatar who are both loyal to the republic and Amarr Empire. They are simply the ones who can understand and appreciate what the Amarr's true intentions are while also retaining respect to their own heritage and can see right through the lies of the Gallente Federation. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 97	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:22:00 - [137] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Why are you here? Go to the Intergalactic Summit. Nobody but other RP'ers care, everyone else is just going to use the race that has the best equipment. (Minmatar, at the moment, that's why we win all the FW matches.) They are convinced that the Amarr and Caldari have a harder time winning in FW because of the way CCP markets the factions. To be honest it should be backward, more hardcore players should be more prone to pick Caldari and Amarr. So this all circles back to the fact that most people want to be Gallante and Minmatar while Caldari are third popular and Amarr are the least popular. My theory is that there's something fundamental in the attraction the Ammarian race has for players who don't have the heart for a real fight. Whereas on the Minmatar side, we're just getting warmed up. I hope you Minmatar are enjoying beating all the random Amarr blueberries and thinking you are dominating because of it, meanwhile when it is a fair match with both teams properly q-synced the Amarr come out on top from my experience. im interested in having a q-synced against you in an FW to see who wins. im skilled into everything so don't hate if I bring out my whole arsenal of "im going to **** your ass" weapons, tanks, suit, and dropships In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
Sgt Kirk SyNergy Gaming EoN. 3608	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:22:00 - [138] - Quote No Aero Yassavi, as usual your pretentious nature is making you look stupid. Look at your post before my comment, and notice where you say most hate the Minmatar in the Federation. How you would think I was combating the truth of Minmatar being used to weaken the Amarrians by saying my quote about the chronicle is beyond me. I'm an honest guy, and will admit when I've made a falsehood, there's no shame in changing your opinion based on new information...something you guys wouldn't understand. Edit: saw response and lays down sword
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4155	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:23:00 - [139] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: im interested in having a q-synced against you in an FW to see who wins. im skilled into everything so don't hate if I bring out my whole arsenal of "im going to **** your ass" weapons, tanks, suit, and dropships Well if you can q-sync which squads are on your team I can't imagine why you wouldn't be able to q-sync which squads are on the enemy team. Perhaps we can try and arrange this sometime? Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 97	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:24:00 - [140] - Quote WTF, so CCP censors rap*e but not ass. #CCPlogic In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior

Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4155	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:24:00 - [141] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: No Aero Yassavi, as usual your pretentious nature is making you look stupid. Look at your post before my comment, and notice where you say most hate the Minmatar in the Federation. How you would think I was combating the truth of Minmatar being used to weaken the Amarrians by saying my quote about the chronicle is beyond me. I'm an honest guy, and will admit when I've made a falsehood, there's no shame in changing your opinion based on new information...something you guys wouldn't understand. Edit: saw response and lays down sword Yeah, sorry that is my bad, you are absolutely correct. I was hoping I got the edit in before you saw it Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
knight guard fury The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 97	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:28:00 - [142] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: im interested in having a q-synced against you in an FW to see who wins. im skilled into everything so don't hate if I bring out my whole arsenal of "im going to **** your ass" weapons, tanks, suit, and dropships Well if you can q-sync which squads are on your team I can't imagine why you wouldn't be able to q-sync which squads are on the enemy team. Perhaps we can try and arrange this sometime? well, Im only on during the weekend (because I have school during the week) so I guess ill be hanging around in Pie Public when I get the chance ive got no mic so I wont be talking but i may be able to borrow one of my relatives In Rust We Trust, true to the Republic, Kherokior warrior
Aero Yassavi Scions of Athra 4155	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:30:00 - [143] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: im interested in having a q-synced against you in an FW to see who wins. im skilled into everything so don't hate if I bring out my whole arsenal of "im going to **** your ass" weapons, tanks, suit, and dropships Well if you can q-sync which squads are on your team I can't imagine why you wouldn't be able to q-sync which squads are on the enemy team. Perhaps we can try and arrange this sometime? well, Im only on during the weekend (because I have school during the week) so I guess ill be hanging around in Pie Public when I get the chance ive got no mic so I wont be talking but i may be able to borrow one of my relatives PIE Ground Control, don't try to go in PIE Public for something like this. Angels of vengeance, angels of mercy, scions of Athra. Amarr Victor
Auld Syne Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 150	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:31:00 - [144] - Quote Note to self: Do not get into a debate against Sgt Kirk.
Kasira Vorrikesh Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 36	Posted - 2013.12.17 06:48:00 - [145] - Quote knight guard fury wrote: even though caldari basically shun the tortured, they punish them by giving them horrible images at any given time. the Minmatar torture for purpose and reason the amarr torture for traitors, spies, agents, etc. the Gallente torture to make examples of in the most brutal and horrible of ways Just glossed over the torture articles now (would never have guessed such entries existed). The Caldari kind is so subtle; definitely my favorite. Gallente style makes sense for special circumstances. I found the other two rather boring. sniff I'm so proud to be a Caldari right now. Well, my main is.
Ronan Elsword Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 117	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:11:00 - [146] - Quote Kasira Vorrikesh wrote: knight guard fury wrote: even though caldari basically shun the tortured, they punish them by giving them horrible images at any given time. the Minmatar torture for purpose and reason the amarr torture for traitors, spies, agents, etc. the Gallente torture to make examples of in the most brutal and horrible of ways Just glossed over the torture articles now (would never have guessed such entries existed). The Caldari kind is so subtle; definitely my favorite. Gallente style makes sense for special circumstances. I found the other two rather boring. sniff I'm so proud to be a Caldari right now. Well, my main is. You should read through some of the other Chronicles, they are quite interesting and reveal a lot about the different Factions. For instance Gallente Black Eagles For The State "Nice House you have here Gallente, you can just feel the Freedom." -Looks in Closet- "Dear God"
Aria Gomes Death by Disassociation Zero-Day 210	Posted - 2013.12.17 07:17:00 - [147] - Quote All the quotes!!? Damn I have to read all of this tomorrow.
True Adamance Scions of Athra 4977	Posted - 2013.12.17 09:52:00 - [148] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: knight guard fury wrote: I have read up on much lore about the Minmatar, my bloodline, and some chronicles (which im still reading) and I have got to say that they are still going through some hard times with them fighting the Ammatar/amarr conflict and surviving on their own, but they continue to live on because of their religion/tribes/culture/etc. and that is one of the reasons I chose to be a Matari and I fight for them with a reason, not because other people persuaded me. You should probably look a bit into the Gallente's lore as well, your supposed ally. When you look at how you two met, it becomes evident that the Gallente only sparked and fueled your rebellion against the Amarr because they felt threatened by the Amarr and wanted to take advantage of the Amarr's recent defeat to the Jove. Really, the Minmatar are just puppets of war to the Gallente to gain an edge on the only other empire large enough to threaten them. It becomes even more evident that the Gallente are simply using the Minmatar when you realize that most the Gallente citizens never truly welcomes the Matari into the Federation, and there remains several tensions between the two sides, including most recently a series of incidents which began with a Federation citizen murdering 59 Matari including a Matari tribal leader. The Chronicles never say most as you say. It always references it to some or a lot, but certainly not most. There's much dirt about the federation and its policies but you can do so without stretching words to prove your point. You'll never catch me saying most Amarr agree with Vitox poisoning so please, use facts, there's certainly a lot out there. Aeros character can believe that as a matter of speculation even with no proof, as my character does. To a Texan like you, a hero is some type of weird sandwich, not some nut who takes on three Gunlogi. Reference = ISK
Denak Kalamari Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative 737	Posted - 2013.12.17 09:57:00 - [149] - Quote In my mind, these are all the empires wrapped into very generic and stereotyping descriptions: Gallente - Corrupt "hippies" Caldari - Capitalistic bastards Minmatar - Violent hobos Amarr - Zealot slavers Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 13th
DeadlyAztec11 2816	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:44:00 - [150] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: gbghg wrote: Aero Yassavi wrote: gbghg wrote: I like the descriptions but the amarr one seems like its trying to twist the slavery angle into soething else, idk might have just been the way you said it. See above. People hear the word "slavery" and immediately associate it with all these predetermined thoughts. Amarr "slavery" isn't remotely similar to what so many people here instantly believe it is. i know, and you make a good point, but like aztec said it's about the reasons for the reclamation, it just feels like the words your using are trying to sugarcoat things a bit much. i have no problem with you trying to cast the amarr in a better light, hell i think its a good thing, giving people a better overview the factions is a good thing. i just feel that the whole "parental" angle you were aiming for is the wrong one, maybe something more along the lines of how they believe it is their religious duty to unite new eden and how they accomplish this with means ranging from forced reeducation of planetary populations to missionaries and the like. you could also focus on the spiritual side of their faith, idk, that parental angle made me a bit uncomfortable and felt off to me. Forced reeducation? The worlds the Amarr have reclaimed never had more than a primitive education compared to how technologically advanced the Amarr were after thousands of years. There was no reeducating, just educating. Sure, there was an Amarr bias on it, but that's no different than people in America being educated with an American bias or people in the UK being educated with a UK bias, for example. Maybe you don't like the whole "parental" thing, but I find it quite apt. Most "slave" owners genuinely care about their "slaves" and one of the highest honors to have in Amarr society is for your "slaves" to become freed and become a model citizen of the Amarr Empire. Of course, there are a good chunk of people who are brutal in the matter but those people are criminals and should be viewed no differently than the brutal criminals of any other society. Alright, you are wrong here the Amarr did not choose to reclaim only primitive societies. They chose primitive societies because primitive societies could not fight back. They met the Gallante, what was the first option they looked at? Invasion. Why didn't they? Because they realized the Gallante weren't going to be an easy win. They had never fought another race that proved to be any sort of equal. My alts: GeneralJohnRipper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Long Evity, CCP Rarara And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior



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