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GeneralButtNaked ZionTCD Public Disorder. 613	Posted - 2013.11.20 00:57:00 - [121] - Quote Justin Tymes wrote: Swarm users don't give a damn about tankers seeing the swarms all they care about is damage and range. And still, that's like complaining about not being able to see the Sniper when you get hit. The more accurate comparison would be not seeing the sniper when I am looking through the scope of my own rifle. Railgun has a theoretical range of 600m, and an actual range of about a quarter of that, on a good day. I know that swarm users don't care about anyone else. That has been long established. Scrubs gon' be scrubs and all that. The thing, if I could see and engage infantry at max range with my railgun, they could have all the range they like. FG to, as long as they could be engaged. Mr. Hybrid Vayu
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 60	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:06:00 - [122] - Quote I believe this is a great video of the problem with swarms as they are currently (1.6) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3au9H-NcgSw&list=PLE03F8kPr_F_wrgd9bl_bTpqNU9Q_SKys
ACE OF JOKERS AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 116	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:09:00 - [123] - Quote poison Diego wrote: I want to ask you guys who ar saying that this swarm luncher nerf is to much, have you EVER stepped into a tank? Yes i have. The Swarm launcher nerf is too much.
Marlin Kirby KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 103	Posted - 2013.11.20 01:25:00 - [124] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Marlin Kirby wrote: Wouldn't make sense if the driver/pilot knew that they were being tracked? You know, something almost every already game does. 20000 years into the future you would think that vehicles would be able to use a type of technology to back track and determine the flight path of said auto locking swarms to determine the firing position. At least I should be able to see you and not just have you appear at 60m with swarmer in hand. Whether a bug or intentional, this is unacceptable. Vehicles need to see what's around them for their defense. It makes completely no sense otherwise. The not logic bomb!
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1171	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:11:00 - [125] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: Justin Tymes wrote: Swarm users don't give a damn about tankers seeing the swarms all they care about is damage and range. And still, that's like complaining about not being able to see the Sniper when you get hit. The more accurate comparison would be not seeing the sniper when I am looking through the scope of my own rifle. Railgun has a theoretical range of 600m, and an actual range of about a quarter of that, on a good day. I know that swarm users don't care about anyone else. That has been long established. Scrubs gon' be scrubs and all that. The thing, if I could see and engage infantry at max range with my railgun, they could have all the range they like. FG to, as long as they could be engaged. I'd actually like to think of it as not being able to see the sniper who sniped your while your also a sniper trying to counter-snipe him while being counter-sniped by 5 other snipers counter-sniping simultaneously and you also counter sniping the other 5 counter-snipers. I challenge you to argue against how SLs are not easy mode by saying something other than "they are just scrubs". You'll find quite a few holes in your logic. And it's hard to take you seriously when you admitted to never skilling into the weapon your calling easy. Actually, it's not hard but merely impossible. I care about every role in this game. I have done nothing with my DUST life but try to improve the state of this game. I guarantee you that many would agree. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
Wako 75 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 86	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:24:00 - [126] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is dropships are going to be invincible not if my rg is on the opposite team
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1171	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:27:00 - [127] - Quote Wako 75 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is dropships are going to be invincible not if my rg is on the opposite team Yes, because everyone here is a tanker who owns railguns. Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4178	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:31:00 - [128] - Quote Atiim wrote: Wako 75 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is dropships are going to be invincible not if my rg is on the opposite team Yes, because everyone here is a tanker who owns railguns. Yup I'll drop him for you Atiim. Oh and by the way you shall have to introduce me to that Slave you want. We slavers have to stick together you know.... "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 100	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:35:00 - [129] - Quote ACE OF JOKERS wrote: poison Diego wrote: I want to ask you guys who ar saying that this swarm luncher nerf is to much, have you EVER stepped into a tank? Yes i have. The Swarm launcher nerf is too much. anything gear is to much against proto stompers exept our tanks cost more isk+sp recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 1171	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:36:00 - [130] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Wako 75 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is dropships are going to be invincible not if my rg is on the opposite team Yes, because everyone here is a tanker who owns railguns. Yup I'll drop him for you Atiim. Oh and by the way you shall have to introduce me to that Slave you want. We slavers have to stick together you know.... I already have my own railguns thank you. And I don't want slaves. I never said I wanted slaves. I asked for Matri Scout LAVS, NOT SLAVES Check out my corp's new website here :D -HAND

jerrmy12 kahoalii The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 100	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:36:00 - [131] - Quote Atiim wrote: Wako 75 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is dropships are going to be invincible not if my rg is on the opposite team Yes, because everyone here is a tanker who owns railguns. cough rail guns are op for me cough recuruit link 5 to 11 mil isk per 100k recuruit
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4179	Posted - 2013.11.20 03:44:00 - [132] - Quote Atiim wrote: True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: Wako 75 wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: All I know is dropships are going to be invincible not if my rg is on the opposite team Yes, because everyone here is a tanker who owns railguns. Yup I'll drop him for you Atiim. Oh and by the way you shall have to introduce me to that Slave you want. We slavers have to stick together you know.... I already have my own railguns thank you. And I want slaves. I said I wanted slaves. I asked for Matri Scout SLAVES, ALL THE SLAVES I see your zeal is refreshing. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
skippy678 F.T.U. 132	Posted - 2013.11.20 04:45:00 - [133] - Quote GeneralButtNaked wrote: skippy678 wrote: and dude who says its 1 million sp to make an AV fit...your slow.. 1mill swarm operation 1.5 swarm proficiency 1 mil for dmage mods + at least a million for an advanced suit my proto AV fit costs 244 k isk. More than your tank prob. 150k for prereqs. 610k to get proto swarms 610k for complex damage mods MLT Minmatar medium frame That is all you need right now to be a fearsome threat to all vehicles. Also, advanced suits cost 800k, not a million. You don't need prof to put in work versus armor tanks, which are pretty much the standard right now. with wykormi and 3 damage mods I still run into a handfull of tanks who walk away from me easy peazy... And i have proficincy 5..so i would suggest it if you wanna try to battle guys Like Void Echo/Daishi and Cakeman...but hey every weapon I operate is at Pro 5. MD/swarm/SMG/Snipe Any of those guys will tell you that you are wasting yourtime without the prof.5 even steping up...and thats 1.5 million SP either way u must admit it costs more than 1 millionSP to be decent with swarms... In the last1-4 weeks I have pretty much eliminated the swarm out of my suits except for speacial occasions big names/ corps. I also keep a CBR7 in my uplink suit..jst cuz if i see a dropship coming towards me i lock on to a blaster nearby just to keep em away without showing them they are not proto.(also opens up 2 slots for complex damage mods on my meeaaann SMG. we really do have to wait and see what happens...everyone has distorted the truth in sooo many ways in these forums that i dont think anyone remembers or knows what really is going to happen.... we are gonna get a respec anyway and when tht happens make your choice.but nothingwill be truely OP because if it is..everyone will do it and then it wont be OP, it will just be the way it is. U.play.good? F.T.U. Recruiting Thread


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