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Well put. +1

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Silly human.

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What most people fail to realize that when people say "logi is OP", they don't mean that logi is simply a better fighter.
It's that they're pretty much the same as the assault (with a few swaps, like less speed but more eHP) BUT get 3-4 equipment slots.
When people stack plates and extenders in these threads to show that logis aren't that far ahead eHP wise, they fail to realize that stacking plates and extenders is not the best of suits.
Here are my logi and assault suits, each are designed to push it to the maximum, I have been tweaking my suits for ages and these are the optimal one's I found:
Note: I have CPU/PG skills maxed, I could not push this suit further.

Gallente Assault:
High:
Complex damage mod
Complex shield extender
Complex damage mod

Low:
Basic plate
Basic plate
Enhanced armor rep
Enhanced armor rep

Weapons:
GEK 38 Assault rifle
Syndicate SMG

Grenade:
M1 Locus

Equipment:
Allotek Nanohive

Armor: 449
Shield: 217
Combined: 666 (huehuehue)
Damage bonus (skills not included): 20%
Regen rate: 7.5hp/s
Movement speed: 4.81
Sprint speed: 7.08
Stamina: 157.50
Stamina regen: 15.75

Not bad right?

Now let's look at the Gallente logi:
High:
Complex damage mod
Complex damage mod
Complex shield extender

Low:
Enhanced ferroscale plate
Basic plate
Basic plate
Basic plate
Enhanced Cardiac regulator

Weapon:
Duvolle Assault Rifle

Grenade:
M1 Locus

Equipment:
Wiyrkomi Triage hives
Wiyrkomi Triage hives
A-86 active scanner
Ishukone Gauged hive


Shield: 181
Armor: 560
Combined: 741
Damage bonus (skills not included): 25% (I could fit a duvolle on my logi, which has +5% damage over a gek)
Regen rate: 5hp/s (Inherent logi regen)
Movement speed: 4.54 m/s
Sprint speed: 6.67m/s
Stamina: 198.19
Stamina regen: 22.89



Conclusion:
Seems pretty legit right?
The logi has more damage, more eHP, more stamina and more stamina regen for the price of speed and a sidearm right?
Oh wait, but that would only be legit if both were combat focused suits, I.E both have one equipment.
But the logi has 4 equipment slots, making it far far more verastile and just a better deal overall.
Especially with the 6x triage hives I fit on my logi, I am ******* invincible inside one of those.
Low on health?
Plop a triage hive, return to battle faster than shields can recharge.
I also couldn't fit a scanner on my assault, making me much more blind.
Also, I could fit a kin cat instead of a regulator to be even faster than my assault, but I prefer the sustainability that regulators provide.


How I think this should be solved:
Two problems that I see here:
1. Logis get 5hp/s on armor inherent, which allows me to give up on a armor rep and put on an extra plate, increasing the eHP gap further. HOWEVER CCP said they will change it once they have the infastracture to do it (something about the code doesn't allow them to put on a more logi orientated bonus)

2. The CPU/PG gap is just damn too high.
Could solve it by either reducing the CPU/PG on logis, forcing them to decide on either being a combat suit or a logi suit, not both, OR increasing the CPU/PG on the assault. (Should also buff the scout CPU/PG and heavy CPU/PG if this is done, just to be fair)

Silly human, SoTa has been trolling since before you were born, no way that you were waiting for the Rail Rifle since then :P

A better solution would be to give the assault class 2 equipment slots and put the nerf hammer back in the closet.

Assaults don't need a second EQ slot, Scouts should have that way more than Assaults.

Heavy = 0
Assault = 1
Scout = 2
Logi = 3/4

That should be the EQ slot formula.

What's the concept of time to an immortal anyway?

Good to see you haven't lost your touch.

1.7 hits, Ion Pistol, Magsec SMG, Rail Rifle, and some kind of plasma grenade comes out. Which suit is better then?

We definitely need that CPU and PG at a prototype level to equip even only two pieces of prototype equipment. Fitting an Exile on mk.0 still means I struggle to get full prototype modules and equipment. My grenades are basic flux too. So I really am doubtful about that reduction.

As for the passive bonus for logistics suits, I agree that's kinda strange. It makes sense in a way: we can't repair ourselves. But I'd say more and more logibros are realising the potential of repair hives, even if it requires Nanocircuitry 4 to unlock the first decent one, so if the bonus was replaced with a fitting reduction to equipment (give Gallente armour repair efficacy instead), that would be awesome.

I believe in making the equipment slots a necessity to fill before the suit is valid, but I understand this could detract from the 'heavy sniper' mentality of being whatever you want. So I suppose the above changes are sufficient.

logo should do less damage and can't use damage mods, they should do 5 to 10 percent less damage or you have to do something to assault there is no advantage for assault over logis, people are going to say sidearms but when logis have damage mods a sidearm won't help that much.

or assault have a built in damage mod

"or assault have a built in damage mod" - TTK is already too quick, don't feel like making it any faster :S

And I am warry of giving them a damage reduction, I feel like they should be able to be a combat suit if they give up their equipment.

Well you weren't immortal from birth were you?

My answer to that is Templar One.

Logi?
They said nothing about an Ion Pistol, magsec SMG or a plasma grenade.
What we know for sure is the combat rifle, and rail rifle.

Can you link for me where you got that? (Ion pistol, magsec SMG and plasma grenade)

Long time, no meow.

+1

Meant to have a "what if" in there.

Ah, that makes more sense.
Anyway, unless these sidearms are going to be OP, I don't see how that is an advanatage over logis.
I saw a logi with a flaylock lol

All of those weapons are hybrid. Therefore the GalAss would be able to fit better weapons. Logi might have the tank, but the assault would have better gank.