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Void Echo
Blades of Dust
2047
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:33:00 -
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Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:By the little information you seem to have gleamed you have basically said they're loosing 33% of slots but only 7.4% PG.
Also you haven't mentioned that active mods will be far more effective and most have no stacking penalties.
Hell, I'm willing to give it an honest try
I have an alt im building up on passive SP for this, if I don't like it, il get a recpec in this profile.
Closed Beta Vet
Level 2 Forum Warrior
"In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
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Jack McReady
DUST University
Ivy League
792
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:34:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:skippy678 wrote:Madrugar.Now
CPU-210
PG-2690
High Slot-2
Low slot-5
Madrugar.1.7
CPU-475
PG-2490
High Slots-2
Low slots-3
40% less low slots......less PG...Go ahead and try to make a Maddy fitting with the new numbers and see what comes out. All the numbers are on the vehicle blog...33% of swarms/AV dosent make up for your losses.
You guys keep posting untill the changes kick in. CCP has been bending you guys over for so long that you blow up when they throw a litte spit on you first...
Forge direct damage stays the same and your armour just dropped 40%(give or take) because of modules... Imagine 2 less hardeners? or 1 less plate and 1 less repper? comon...
I will wager that we see the tanker dudes that have been lighting up the forums with HAV power . crying like babies on the very same forum wich they publically displayed their inability to do do simple math within 48 hours of 1.7..
and i will link this post to every single one ! welp, modules get a buff in 1.7, madrugar will have 15k -20k ehp  dude I am having a real convo about real numbers here.....your post is the only post wich is clearly lying....just go to 1.7 changes blog and come bck and delete your post.
cool story bro...
everyone with basic math skills can look this up in the forum where the numbers are announced |
Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1373
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:34:00 -
[63] - Quote
Void Echo wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:By the little information you seem to have gleamed you have basically said they're loosing 33% of slots but only 7.4% PG.
Also you haven't mentioned that active mods will be far more effective and most have no stacking penalties.
Hell, I'm willing to give it an honest try I have an alt im building up on passive SP for this, if I don't like it, il get a recpec in this profile.
Smart. I'm still going to stick with them for some reason, although I will have Scouts and eventually either Logi's or Assaults skilled up.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1235
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:35:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:skippy678 wrote:Godin..im all fair when it comes to numbers...but i know what my Maddy fitting looks like now and i know what it will look like with the new slot layout.
Post your new fitting where you only loose 500 eHP, within the new numbers...your lying to yourself. All the modules are completely different, you know that right? yes i have to CCP charts in an open window right now.
but what you don't have is a full list of stats of all the new changes for av weaponry , the only real numbers that can be worked at the present time is tank on tank combat, until ccp releases the full stats for the av changes we are all just guessing , for example the swarms might get not only a damage and range nerf but also a fireing rate nerf with an increased clip size this would lower the dps but make for extended niggling of havs ..........but that's all just guesswork. all you can do as I said is work the tank on tank combat stats.
Its gone from suck .....to blow
level 1 forum warrior
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
537
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:35:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
When I can't, I usually has more than 3 PROTO AV weapons on me, from places I can't hit. I've battled 4 HAV's at once and won. Get on my level.
Yep if you solo 4 tanks simultaneously, they were all bad tankers who deserved death to begin with. And when you can kill 3 LAVs trying to play NFS: Muder Taxi Edition with a boundless proxy and then take out a gunlogi with a CBR-112 and some EXO AV ndaes, while being ripped to shreds by duvolles you you can say get on my level. 'Till then you can just GTF back in the academy. It was really 6, but I only battled a max of 4. It was 2 Sags, a Soma, and a Sica, and then the other 2 was Maddy's. I was in a Suyra. Going god mode.  Anywys, tr y fighting 3 Gunnlogi's and a Maddy with sleek AV nades and a wiki swarm (no hives, no PE's or RE's), and this is while unknown snipers and a full sq. of assorted Logi's, Heavies, and Assaulters are hunting you down, all while in a Scout suit. I win
Scout G/1 series nothing but 2 Lai Dais and people with scrambler rifles while a heavy with a boundless is spraying and praying.
Took out 2 madrugars and still lived to run away.
As I said, GTF back in the academy
Tanks should be the only counter to other tanks.
AV should not do damage to us
-Tanker's Logic
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1373
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:36:00 -
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Jack McReady wrote:skippy678 wrote:Jack McReady wrote:skippy678 wrote:Madrugar.Now
CPU-210
PG-2690
High Slot-2
Low slot-5
Madrugar.1.7
CPU-475
PG-2490
High Slots-2
Low slots-3
40% less low slots......less PG...Go ahead and try to make a Maddy fitting with the new numbers and see what comes out. All the numbers are on the vehicle blog...33% of swarms/AV dosent make up for your losses.
You guys keep posting untill the changes kick in. CCP has been bending you guys over for so long that you blow up when they throw a litte spit on you first...
Forge direct damage stays the same and your armour just dropped 40%(give or take) because of modules... Imagine 2 less hardeners? or 1 less plate and 1 less repper? comon...
I will wager that we see the tanker dudes that have been lighting up the forums with HAV power . crying like babies on the very same forum wich they publically displayed their inability to do do simple math within 48 hours of 1.7..
and i will link this post to every single one ! welp, modules get a buff in 1.7, madrugar will have 15k -20k ehp dude I am having a real convo about real numbers here.....your post is the only post wich is clearly lying....just go to 1.7 changes blog and come bck and delete your post. cool story bro... if you had the basic ability to comprehend and math skills you would see that by looking into the announced changes in the forum...
At max you can get ~18k while being hit by a forge in a Maddy.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Godin Thekiller
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
1373
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:38:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
When I can't, I usually has more than 3 PROTO AV weapons on me, from places I can't hit. I've battled 4 HAV's at once and won. Get on my level.
Yep if you solo 4 tanks simultaneously, they were all bad tankers who deserved death to begin with. And when you can kill 3 LAVs trying to play NFS: Muder Taxi Edition with a boundless proxy and then take out a gunlogi with a CBR-112 and some EXO AV ndaes, while being ripped to shreds by duvolles you you can say get on my level. 'Till then you can just GTF back in the academy. It was really 6, but I only battled a max of 4. It was 2 Sags, a Soma, and a Sica, and then the other 2 was Maddy's. I was in a Suyra. Going god mode. Anywys, tr y fighting 3 Gunnlogi's and a Maddy with sleek AV nades and a wiki swarm (no hives, no PE's or RE's), and this is while unknown snipers and a full sq. of assorted Logi's, Heavies, and Assaulters are hunting you down, all while in a Scout suit. I win Scout G/1 series nothing but 2 Lai Dais and people with scrambler rifles while a heavy with a boundless is spraying and praying. Took out 2 madrugars and still lived to run away. As I said, GTF back in the academy
Someone weakened both of those HAV's for you. doesn't count. Try again.
'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever!
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Void Echo
Blades of Dust
2047
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:39:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
When I can't, I usually has more than 3 PROTO AV weapons on me, from places I can't hit. I've battled 4 HAV's at once and won. Get on my level.
Yep if you solo 4 tanks simultaneously, they were all bad tankers who deserved death to begin with. And when you can kill 3 LAVs trying to play NFS: Muder Taxi Edition with a boundless proxy and then take out a gunlogi with a CBR-112 and some EXO AV ndaes, while being ripped to shreds by duvolles you you can say get on my level. 'Till then you can just GTF back in the academy. It was really 6, but I only battled a max of 4. It was 2 Sags, a Soma, and a Sica, and then the other 2 was Maddy's. I was in a Suyra. Going god mode. Anywys, tr y fighting 3 Gunnlogi's and a Maddy with sleek AV nades and a wiki swarm (no hives, no PE's or RE's), and this is while unknown snipers and a full sq. of assorted Logi's, Heavies, and Assaulters are hunting you down, all while in a Scout suit. I win Scout G/1 series nothing but 2 Lai Dais and people with scrambler rifles while a heavy with a boundless is spraying and praying. Took out 2 madrugars and still lived to run away. As I said, GTF back in the academy
and that is why we say balance doesn't exist. because any ****** can do this.
Closed Beta Vet
Level 2 Forum Warrior
"In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
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skippy678
F.T.U.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:39:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:skippy678 wrote:surivability has a lot to do with the squad around you man. And i know some tankers that go all day without loosing a tank..go 25/0...make 3000 wp a match...if you think its fair to make these guys stronger? nobody does exet for the guy who is being greedy....Godin I am speaking about you and void echo with the above statement..you guys are the only people who i actually see in this thread that I recognize from the field as being good. therefore you understand that this is a balancing....they are trying to help junior tankers..and small vehicles...not help you guys stomp more... that's what I have been advocating for a year now, the new tankers and "juniors" need an incentive to continue with tanks, right now and for as long as I can remember, only the strongest of us can barely survive, everyone else gets annihilated.
but honestly Void....you cant tell me that your tank as it stands needs a buff..i have played you before and i dont think you do dude....lotsa people who have played you would agree.
its just like drosuits...you gotta do your time dying...like i did....I was in beta 2 man and im making legit statements.
U.play.good?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
537
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:40:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Oh look, tank scrubs saying HAVs are gonna be so OP that even the strongest of swarms won't do jack $#!t to them. I can't wait for the next DUST.. I mean Tank 514 patch to happen :D Not Jack ****. They'll still scare me away, just not as bad as now.
Why would they scare me away?
I already know that they wouldn't be able to kill me, so why wouldn't I go after them?
Here's a tip: When someone knows that what you have can only scratch them, they won't be scared.
Unless you are so butthurt that the sound of swarm launchers make you go cry and crap yourself in a corner.
Tanks should be the only counter to other tanks.
AV should not do damage to us
-Tanker's Logic
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skippy678
F.T.U.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:42:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
When I can't, I usually has more than 3 PROTO AV weapons on me, from places I can't hit. I've battled 4 HAV's at once and won. Get on my level.
Yep if you solo 4 tanks simultaneously, they were all bad tankers who deserved death to begin with. And when you can kill 3 LAVs trying to play NFS: Muder Taxi Edition with a boundless proxy and then take out a gunlogi with a CBR-112 and some EXO AV ndaes, while being ripped to shreds by duvolles you you can say get on my level. 'Till then you can just GTF back in the academy. It was really 6, but I only battled a max of 4. It was 2 Sags, a Soma, and a Sica, and then the other 2 was Maddy's. I was in a Suyra. Going god mode. Anywys, tr y fighting 3 Gunnlogi's and a Maddy with sleek AV nades and a wiki swarm (no hives, no PE's or RE's), and this is while unknown snipers and a full sq. of assorted Logi's, Heavies, and Assaulters are hunting you down, all while in a Scout suit. I win Scout G/1 series nothing but 2 Lai Dais and people with scrambler rifles while a heavy with a boundless is spraying and praying. Took out 2 madrugars and still lived to run away. As I said, GTF back in the academy and that is why we say balance doesn't exist. because any ****** can do this.
however me with my proto swarms and 3 complex damage mods profieciency 5 dosent even cause you to really move away....I have spent maybe 3 +million SP just to get that setup and againt you its a waste anyway...
U.play.good?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
537
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:42:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
When I can't, I usually has more than 3 PROTO AV weapons on me, from places I can't hit. I've battled 4 HAV's at once and won. Get on my level.
Yep if you solo 4 tanks simultaneously, they were all bad tankers who deserved death to begin with. And when you can kill 3 LAVs trying to play NFS: Muder Taxi Edition with a boundless proxy and then take out a gunlogi with a CBR-112 and some EXO AV ndaes, while being ripped to shreds by duvolles you you can say get on my level. 'Till then you can just GTF back in the academy. It was really 6, but I only battled a max of 4. It was 2 Sags, a Soma, and a Sica, and then the other 2 was Maddy's. I was in a Suyra. Going god mode. Anywys, tr y fighting 3 Gunnlogi's and a Maddy with sleek AV nades and a wiki swarm (no hives, no PE's or RE's), and this is while unknown snipers and a full sq. of assorted Logi's, Heavies, and Assaulters are hunting you down, all while in a Scout suit. I win Scout G/1 series nothing but 2 Lai Dais and people with scrambler rifles while a heavy with a boundless is spraying and praying. Took out 2 madrugars and still lived to run away. As I said, GTF back in the academy and that is why we say balance doesn't exist. because any ****** can do this.
Yep, because my skill had absolutely nothing to do with that, and anyone within 2 minutes of play time would be able to do this.
This is so common that it happens all the time
Nice logic dude
Tanks should be the only counter to other tanks.
AV should not do damage to us
-Tanker's Logic
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Void Echo
Blades of Dust
2047
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:44:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Void Echo wrote:skippy678 wrote:surivability has a lot to do with the squad around you man. And i know some tankers that go all day without loosing a tank..go 25/0...make 3000 wp a match...if you think its fair to make these guys stronger? nobody does exet for the guy who is being greedy....Godin I am speaking about you and void echo with the above statement..you guys are the only people who i actually see in this thread that I recognize from the field as being good. therefore you understand that this is a balancing....they are trying to help junior tankers..and small vehicles...not help you guys stomp more... that's what I have been advocating for a year now, the new tankers and "juniors" need an incentive to continue with tanks, right now and for as long as I can remember, only the strongest of us can barely survive, everyone else gets annihilated. but honestly Void....you cant tell me that your tank as it stands needs a buff..i have played you before and i dont think you do dude....lotsa people who have played you would agree. its just like drosuits...you gotta do your time dying...like i did....I was in beta 2 man and im making legit statements.
its different when your on the subject of the new tankers coming in... how are we going to keep the class alive when all they do is get destroyed by people like atiim after the 1st 5 seconds they deploy.. basically never allowing them to actually enjoy the tanker class... I don't care about my own tank anymore, I just want the tanker class to survive, and its not going to survive unless the newbies get a reason to stick with the class, and that reason is NOT getting blown up the 1st 5 seconds.
Closed Beta Vet
Level 2 Forum Warrior
"In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
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Void Echo
Blades of Dust
2047
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:46:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:
however me with my proto swarms and 3 complex damage mods profieciency 5 dosent even cause you to really move away....I have spent maybe 3 +million SP just to get that setup and againt you its a waste anyway...
yeah well I spent 10+mil building up my tanks, of course im not going to go down easily.
Closed Beta Vet
Level 2 Forum Warrior
"In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
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skippy678
F.T.U.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:46:00 -
[75] - Quote
Void Echo wrote:skippy678 wrote:Void Echo wrote:skippy678 wrote:surivability has a lot to do with the squad around you man. And i know some tankers that go all day without loosing a tank..go 25/0...make 3000 wp a match...if you think its fair to make these guys stronger? nobody does exet for the guy who is being greedy....Godin I am speaking about you and void echo with the above statement..you guys are the only people who i actually see in this thread that I recognize from the field as being good. therefore you understand that this is a balancing....they are trying to help junior tankers..and small vehicles...not help you guys stomp more... that's what I have been advocating for a year now, the new tankers and "juniors" need an incentive to continue with tanks, right now and for as long as I can remember, only the strongest of us can barely survive, everyone else gets annihilated. but honestly Void....you cant tell me that your tank as it stands needs a buff..i have played you before and i dont think you do dude....lotsa people who have played you would agree. its just like drosuits...you gotta do your time dying...like i did....I was in beta 2 man and im making legit statements. its different when your on the subject of the new tankers coming in... how are we going to keep the class alive when all they do is get destroyed by people like atiim after the 1st 5 seconds they deploy.. basically never allowing them to actually enjoy the tanker class... I don't care about my own tank anymore, I just want the tanker class to survive, and its not going to survive unless the newbies get a reason to stick with the class, and that reason is NOT getting blown up the 1st 5 seconds.
that is a fair statement.
U.play.good?
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Void Echo
Blades of Dust
2047
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:47:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Yep, because my skill had absolutely nothing to do with that, and anyone within 2 minutes of play time would be able to do this. This is so common that it happens all the time Nice logic dude
I should say the same things to you, according to your signature.. you ignored every single thing about balance we have ever argued over.
Closed Beta Vet
Level 2 Forum Warrior
"In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
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skippy678
F.T.U.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:51:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:skippy678 wrote:
however me with my proto swarms and 3 complex damage mods profieciency 5 dosent even cause you to really move away....I have spent maybe 3 +million SP just to get that setup and againt you its a waste anyway...
yeah well I spent 10+mil building up my tanks, of course im not going to go down easily.
but that said...they want balance...and making you 10+million guys tougher is not gonna work...after a couple weeks of crunching numbers and seeing what pro tankers like you are doing they are gonna nerf it again...we want the right balance not back and forth..
U.play.good?
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skippy678
F.T.U.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:57:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Yep, because my skill had absolutely nothing to do with that, and anyone within 2 minutes of play time would be able to do this. This is so common that it happens all the time Nice logic dude I should say the same things to you, according to your signature.. you ignored every single thing about balance we have ever argued over.
And yu know what I am talking about void...your on the forums you have seen the "i cant wait to stomp" posts from Godin and ATIM...honestly I just want this game to be balanced...the right way
these guys are builing up something way out of proportion...thats what this post was originally about....just a posting of the actual state of vehicle/infantry balance...I was here when tanks REALLY stomped and that was no fun either...i just want CCP to get it right...just like you...no matter what i know i cannot be any better equip to destroy tanks/vehicles than i am now...and ill keep doin my best.
do u feel that there is a legitamint need for the tank stomping threads or do you feel that perhaps they are being inflted a little..this is for void..
U.play.good?
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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
540
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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:59:00 -
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Op why you do dis?
Good tankers have known it was a nerf for a while. Looking at tue number s we wount be able to proto fit std hulls anymore either. So now we need adv and proto tanks as well
"God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon
Ko6, scout, tanker.
CLOSED BETA VET
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
540
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:00:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Atiim wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:
When I can't, I usually has more than 3 PROTO AV weapons on me, from places I can't hit. I've battled 4 HAV's at once and won. Get on my level.
Yep if you solo 4 tanks simultaneously, they were all bad tankers who deserved death to begin with. And when you can kill 3 LAVs trying to play NFS: Muder Taxi Edition with a boundless proxy and then take out a gunlogi with a CBR-112 and some EXO AV ndaes, while being ripped to shreds by duvolles you you can say get on my level. 'Till then you can just GTF back in the academy. It was really 6, but I only battled a max of 4. It was 2 Sags, a Soma, and a Sica, and then the other 2 was Maddy's. I was in a Suyra. Going god mode. Anywys, tr y fighting 3 Gunnlogi's and a Maddy with sleek AV nades and a wiki swarm (no hives, no PE's or RE's), and this is while unknown snipers and a full sq. of assorted Logi's, Heavies, and Assaulters are hunting you down, all while in a Scout suit. I win Scout G/1 series nothing but 2 Lai Dais and people with scrambler rifles while a heavy with a boundless is spraying and praying. Took out 2 madrugars and still lived to run away. As I said, GTF back in the academy Someone weakened both of those HAV's for you. doesn't count. Try again.
Nope. They were relying on base HP (I assume their hardners were down)
As for the second one. I was the someone who weakened it. Try again
Tanks should be the only counter to other tanks.
AV should not do damage to us
-Tanker's Logic
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skippy678
F.T.U.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:01:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:By the little information you seem to have gleamed you have basically said they're loosing 33% of slots but only 7.4% PG.
Also you haven't mentioned that active mods will be far more effective and most have no stacking penalties.
Hell, I'm willing to give it an honest try I have an alt im building up on passive SP for this, if I don't like it, il get a recpec in this profile.
like minded..my alt has 4 mill just into vehicles, i use it to test the changes i make on my main first.
U.play.good?
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Long Evity
Krullefor Organization
Minmatar Republic
6086
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:01:00 -
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Dear tankers and DS pilots:
I still scream in my sleep, "NERF THE MISSILES PLEASE GOD!"
Those were dark days in closed beta.
I am not who you think I am, only but just a dream.
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skippy678
F.T.U.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:03:00 -
[83] - Quote
Void Echo wrote:Broonfondle Majikthies wrote:By the little information you seem to have gleamed you have basically said they're loosing 33% of slots but only 7.4% PG.
Also you haven't mentioned that active mods will be far more effective and most have no stacking penalties.
Hell, I'm willing to give it an honest try I have an alt im building up on passive SP for this, if I don't like it, il get a recpec in this profile.
hardners stil have a stacking penalty on the graph..
U.play.good?
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Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
540
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:04:00 -
[84] - Quote
Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Yep, because my skill had absolutely nothing to do with that, and anyone within 2 minutes of play time would be able to do this. This is so common that it happens all the time Nice logic dude I should say the same things to you, according to your signature.. you ignored every single thing about balance we have ever argued over.
My signature is based of the fact that 90% of people on this forum who agrued against me said that tanks should be the only counter to tanks.
Tanks should be the only counter to other tanks.
AV should not do damage to us
-Tanker's Logic
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Void Echo
Blades of Dust
2052
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:04:00 -
[85] - Quote
skippy678 wrote:Void Echo wrote:skippy678 wrote:
however me with my proto swarms and 3 complex damage mods profieciency 5 dosent even cause you to really move away....I have spent maybe 3 +million SP just to get that setup and againt you its a waste anyway...
yeah well I spent 10+mil building up my tanks, of course im not going to go down easily. but that said...they want balance...and making you 10+million guys tougher is not gonna work...after a couple weeks of crunching numbers and seeing what pro tankers like you are doing they are gonna nerf it again...we want the right balance not back and forth..
1. then why do we have personal investment?
2. why is this game different from every single fps game out there?
3. why does Dust exist of personal investment shouldn't be a factor in anything?
Closed Beta Vet
Level 2 Forum Warrior
"In my experience love doesnt exist, only cold, dark betrayal does."
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skippy678
F.T.U.
108
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:06:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:Op why you do dis?
Good tankers have known it was a nerf for a while. Looking at tue number s we wount be able to proto fit std hulls anymore either. So now we need adv and proto tanks as well
honestly the reason i did this is because of all the tank stomp threads i have seen lately...they are misinforming the players.
U.play.good?
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Void Echo
Blades of Dust
2052
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:06:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Yep, because my skill had absolutely nothing to do with that, and anyone within 2 minutes of play time would be able to do this. This is so common that it happens all the time Nice logic dude I should say the same things to you, according to your signature.. you ignored every single thing about balance we have ever argued over. And yu know what I am talking about void...your on the forums you have seen the "i cant wait to stomp" posts from Godin and ATIM...honestly I just want this game to be balanced...the right way these guys are builing up something way out of proportion...thats what this post was originally about....just a posting of the actual state of vehicle/infantry balance...I was here when tanks REALLY stomped and that was no fun either...i just want CCP to get it right...just like you...no matter what i know i cannot be any better equip to destroy tanks/vehicles than i am now...and ill keep doin my best. do u feel that there is a legitamint need for the tank stomping threads or do you feel that perhaps they are being inflted a little..this is for void..
I really don't care, iv stepped down from the argument, especially since there are no players here that aren't biased.
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:09:00 -
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fair enough Void. Im going to play now......North american servers..skirmish or dom...see you soon ATIM i have my recorder ready...thanks for giving me a legit tank sided argument Void its the first one i had in 2 weeks.
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:09:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Void Echo wrote:Atiim wrote:Yep, because my skill had absolutely nothing to do with that, and anyone within 2 minutes of play time would be able to do this. This is so common that it happens all the time Nice logic dude I should say the same things to you, according to your signature.. you ignored every single thing about balance we have ever argued over. My signature is based of the fact that 90% of people on this forum who agrued against me said that tanks should be the only counter to tanks.
none of s have ever said tanks should be the only counter to itself, tanks are the logical biggest counter to tanks, av is just a side investment of people want to kill vehicles without skilling into vehicles themselves..
none of us have ever said Quote:only vehicles should counter vehicles, AV should not exist. once again your putting words in peoples mouth...
if AV was the biggest hard counter to tanks, then why would be skill up into tanks? for the tank fights? those wont exist if av is better than vehicles at vehicle destruction. that's the way it is now and tanks are a joke.
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Atiim
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Posted - 2013.11.02 19:13:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
its different when your on the subject of the new tankers coming in... how are we going to keep the class alive when all they do is get destroyed by people like atiim after the 1st 5 seconds they deploy.. basically never allowing them to actually enjoy the tanker class... I don't care about my own tank anymore, I just want the tanker class to survive, and its not going to survive unless the newbies get a reason to stick with the class, and that reason is NOT getting blown up the 1st 5 seconds.
And you think AV will survive as a class? When STD swarms only doesn't 800 damage, no new player will want to use them
And you say this as If all I want to do is to be able to kill everything I see in sight with the mere push of a button.
I want balance just as much as the next guy, only problem is the way CCP is going about "balance" is going to make AV the hardest, most useless, and unused class in the entire game.
If you can come up with better ideas, then I'll jump on the "balance" train. But from the majority of what tankers are saying will lead to a complete inbalance between Tanks and AV, causing much of the new playerbase to shift to tanking and not even thinking about AV.
Tanks should be the only counter to other tanks.
AV should not do damage to us
-Tanker's Logic
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