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Posted - 2013.11.02 18:35:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:skippy678 wrote:Godin..im all fair when it comes to numbers...but i know what my Maddy fitting looks like now and i know what it will look like with the new slot layout.
Post your new fitting where you only loose 500 eHP, within the new numbers...your lying to yourself. All the modules are completely different, you know that right? yes i have to CCP charts in an open window right now.
but what you don't have is a full list of stats of all the new changes for av weaponry , the only real numbers that can be worked at the present time is tank on tank combat, until ccp releases the full stats for the av changes we are all just guessing , for example the swarms might get not only a damage and range nerf but also a fireing rate nerf with an increased clip size this would lower the dps but make for extended niggling of havs ..........but that's all just guesswork. all you can do as I said is work the tank on tank combat stats.
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:40:00 -
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Monkey MAC wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Monkey MAC wrote:I did some maths on this made a whole thread about it, some of my maths was a little off, but basically tanks are gonna work like this!
1) Shield Tanks: Go Hardners or Go Home
2) Armour Tanks: Go plates or Go Home
3) No matter how good a tanker you are, you will get no more than 3-4mins active time per cycle
4) Tanks will still be relatively easy prey without the correct support
5) The tankers who spent their time whining because their tanks too weak (mainly spike) will still do so because they eon't know how to tank with their infantry counterparts.
6) Tankers who saw things from the infantry side (mainly true adamance) will do increasingly well because SL now have to engage from within the theatre of battle in which the tank is involved!
7) Don't expect that much better of draw distance, it reduces redline rail tanking the way it is! Nah. Go hardeners or go home period. Well if you would like to find the thread you can see the maths, but basically until you add at least 2 plates, the hardner doean't increase you pseudo health better than a plate. As such when you only have 3 slots 2 plates and a repper is the most efficient layout for an armour tank under the new scheme!
also hybrid tanking will be a thing in 1.7 as a good shield booster will help a maddy tremendously by buffering damage allowing armour reps to do their work, light armour reps and plates might also be used on gunlogis to beef up the tank. 1.7 will bring much more variety in fitting options for the clever tanker and will thusly lead to more interesting engagements where tanks fufill roles like punching through enemy lines to playing point defence , havs will have to be much more specialised in their fittings/roles on the battlefield.
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:47:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:skippy678 wrote:Madrugar.Now
CPU-210
PG-2690
High Slot-2
Low slot-5
Madrugar.1.7
CPU-475
PG-2490
High Slots-2
Low slots-3
40% less low slots......less PG...Go ahead and try to make a Maddy fitting with the new numbers and see what comes out. All the numbers are on the vehicle blog...33% of swarms/AV dosent make up for your losses.
You guys keep posting untill the changes kick in. CCP has been bending you guys over for so long that you blow up when they throw a litte spit on you first...
Forge direct damage stays the same and your armour just dropped 40%(give or take) because of modules... Imagine 2 less hardeners? or 1 less plate and 1 less repper? comon...
I will wager that we see the tanker dudes that have been lighting up the forums with HAV power . crying like babies on the very same forum wich they publically displayed their inability to do do simple math within 48 hours of 1.7..
and i will link this post to every single one ! You know active armour harderners are supposed to be up at something like 40% or more res a pop right? Armour Repper as a passive, and armour plates you could put more than enough tank on a maddy to kick ass. Throw down a couple of damage mods or something in the highs and you have an epic brawler tank.
a well tanked maddy will struggle to fit the active damage mods but if you sacrifice a bit of tank you will fit more gank,
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Posted - 2013.11.02 22:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:pegasis prime wrote:True Adamance wrote:skippy678 wrote:Madrugar.Now
CPU-210
PG-2690
High Slot-2
Low slot-5
Madrugar.1.7
CPU-475
PG-2490
High Slots-2
Low slots-3
40% less low slots......less PG...Go ahead and try to make a Maddy fitting with the new numbers and see what comes out. All the numbers are on the vehicle blog...33% of swarms/AV dosent make up for your losses.
You guys keep posting untill the changes kick in. CCP has been bending you guys over for so long that you blow up when they throw a litte spit on you first...
Forge direct damage stays the same and your armour just dropped 40%(give or take) because of modules... Imagine 2 less hardeners? or 1 less plate and 1 less repper? comon...
I will wager that we see the tanker dudes that have been lighting up the forums with HAV power . crying like babies on the very same forum wich they publically displayed their inability to do do simple math within 48 hours of 1.7..
and i will link this post to every single one ! You know active armour harderners are supposed to be up at something like 40% or more res a pop right? Armour Repper as a passive, and armour plates you could put more than enough tank on a maddy to kick ass. Throw down a couple of damage mods or something in the highs and you have an epic brawler tank. a well tanked maddy will struggle to fit the active damage mods but if you sacrifice a bit of tank you will fit more gank, Im not ganker by nature I take the shield over the sword anyday...... in this case the Hull over the Blaster.... GIMME MY ******* AMARR HAV!
youll get them eventually but when the changes come id advise you to skill both maddy gunlogi core skills because I have a feeling that the ammar tanks are going to be hybrid tanked like the dropsuits.
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Posted - 2013.11.02 23:15:00 -
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daishi mk03 wrote:skippy678 wrote:congrats. 5% off that whole including the blaster is125-150 PG and the militia blasters for 2 are gonna add
136.4 cpu and 369.6 Pg....still sooooo far off
your claimed fit does not work... Numbers aren't your thing, right? It's 5% per level of the skill, which translates into 25%. Edit: I start to like you, you funny.
fight fight fight fight fight fight fight
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Posted - 2013.11.02 23:20:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:daishi mk03 wrote:skippy678 wrote:congrats. 5% off that whole including the blaster is125-150 PG and the militia blasters for 2 are gonna add
136.4 cpu and 369.6 Pg....still sooooo far off
your claimed fit does not work... Numbers aren't your thing, right? It's 5% per level of the skill, which translates into 25%. Edit: I start to like you, you funny. so what do u have in your low slots? lets do the math right here...if you state the modules we can do the math together..but still we have 4 slots that i am assuming on or taking a guess??? you gonna leave your low slots empty? you really gonna have militia blasters? give the facts of the fit and the numbers wont be a problem no matter what i say you can just change your story of fit and change it.... 2 highs 3 lows 1 big turret 2 small turrets go... and for arguments sake we will pretend that you have level 5 everything.
don't forget in 1.7 you don't have to fit small turrets to your vehicles
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