k.

Btw, new forge stats haven't been posted yet. Get your facts straight before you post.

My eHP only dropped by about 550. Plus, the changes aren't coming until 1.7, and they said they aren't done buttfucking the Forges yet. They ran out of lube. They should be done with it shortly. Come at me

Fair enough...you guys telling me that logibro didnt say that Forgs will stay the same? I will post the link if i have to..just own it that your stomping isnt quite all in the bank yet.

Splash doesn't kill vehicles dipshit. Wolfman was referring to it specifically in the sense of a AV weapon. Plus, it would be stupid to release it now, as it would be imbalanced towards the hulls we have now.

Splash doesn't kill vehicles dipshit. Wolfman was referring to it specifically in the sense of a AV weapon. Plus, it would be stupid to release it now, as it would be imbalanced towards the hulls we have now.

2 hardeners, a repp, blaster, nitro. total eHP: 11.4k Past eHP: ~12k

Nah our HAVs are gonna be OP.

I'm so glad that PRO swarm launchers now do as much as STD swarm launchers At with a 150m lock radii I'm sure that dropship pilots will be able to have lots of fun too knowing that swarms can't lock on if they fly high enough :D

And when ADV and PRO tanks come, I'm gonna jump for joy at how little damage PRO Swarm Launchers will do! We will be invincible.

Now everyone will need a tank to beat a tank, because that's how it should be.

:D

Your HAV will still be ****, as you don't know how to drive at all.

Your HAV will still be ****, as you don't know how to drive at all.

Classed and filed as "Low Quality Bait"

Question has already been answered with video evidence.

OP you really shouldn't have done this, I mean come on...

welp, modules get a buff in 1.7, madrugar will have 15k -20k ehp

Yep if you solo 4 tanks simultaneously, they were all bad tankers who deserved death to begin with.

And when you can kill 3 LAVs trying to play NFS: Muder Taxi Edition with a boundless proxy and then take out a gunlogi with a CBR-112 and some EXO AV ndaes, while being ripped to shreds by duvolles you you can say get on my level.

'Till then you can just GTF back in the academy.

All the modules are completely different, you know that right?

that's what I have been advocating for a year now, the new tankers and "juniors" need an incentive to continue with tanks, right now and for as long as I can remember, only the strongest of us can barely survive, everyone else gets annihilated.

and that is why we say balance doesn't exist. because any ****** can do this.

its different when your on the subject of the new tankers coming in... how are we going to keep the class alive when all they do is get destroyed by people like atiim after the 1st 5 seconds they deploy.. basically never allowing them to actually enjoy the tanker class... I don't care about my own tank anymore, I just want the tanker class to survive, and its not going to survive unless the newbies get a reason to stick with the class, and that reason is NOT getting blown up the 1st 5 seconds.

yeah well I spent 10+mil building up my tanks, of course im not going to go down easily.

I should say the same things to you, according to your signature.. you ignored every single thing about balance we have ever argued over.

I have an alt im building up on passive SP for this, if I don't like it, il get a recpec in this profile.

I have an alt im building up on passive SP for this, if I don't like it, il get a recpec in this profile.

Op why you do dis?

Good tankers have known it was a nerf for a while. Looking at tue number s we wount be able to proto fit std hulls anymore either. So now we need adv and proto tanks as well

@OP
You realize, that the new hardener is 40% (better than 2 hardener now) and that you are no longer forced to use a PG upgrade.
PG Upgrade, hardener, hardener (3 slots) < new hardener (1 slot)

We getting a vehicle respec right?

Right now I run a cheap pub fit madrugar 80GJ Blaster, 2 carapace hardener, 1 heavy eff rep, 1 pg up, 1 180mm poly

1.7 I can run a fit with 80 GJ Blaster, complex 120mm plate, complex hardener, complex repper

I will loose a bit of max hp, trade my big repper for constant rep HOWEVER AV will do -30% damage

I'm happy




Edit: And don't forget that shield tanks will become viable, while being absolute trash right now. So, yeah, 1.7 is good and you are a troll :)

You know active armour harderners are supposed to be up at something like 40% or more res a pop right? Armour Repper as a passive, and armour plates you could put more than enough tank on a maddy to kick ass.

Throw down a couple of damage mods or something in the highs and you have an epic brawler tank.

Thanks for doing math, but next time do it right.

Skill: "5% reduction to PG usage of vehicle armor modules per level"
and don't forget blaster fitting optimization

there is still place for stuff in the high slots, so no prob there.

Numbers aren't your thing, right? It's 5% per level of the skill, which translates into 25%.

Edit: I start to like you, you funny.

so what do u have in your low slots? lets do the math right here...if you state the modules we can do the math together..but still we have 4 slots that i am assuming on or taking a guess??? you gonna leave your low slots empty? you really gonna have militia blasters? give the facts of the fit and the numbers wont be a problem no matter what i say you can just change your story of fit and change it....

2 highs
3 lows
1 big turret
2 small turrets

go...

and for arguments sake we will pretend that you have level 5 everything.

don't forget in 1.7 you don't have to fit small turrets to your vehicles

Actually, it's HIGH SLOTS, which I didn't wrote anything about. Also, not MLT Blaster but STD Blaster

Blaster with fitting 5: 71 / 635
120mm complex plate: 126 / 896*0.75
complex hardener: 133 / 397*0.75
complex repper: 143 / 722*0.75
sum: 473 / 2146,25

Complex CPU Upgrade -475*0.15= - 71,25 / 0

This leaves 1 high slot for Nitro or a Scanner

I will never ever add small turrets to my tank, forever, since I hate those blueberries inside, shooting the mcc or doing ****.

Edit: You can also add 2 instead of 1 CPU Upgrades and fit 2 small blasters

Wait man, you told me my fit is not possible, you posted several times wrong calculations and now you are changing the question? (^.-) You so funny

im still doing my math..

Okay, let me know when you finished.

Edit: To answer your question about 1.7.

There will be plenty of different fits and viable shield tanks (finally). We will have really specialized tanks, anti-person, anti-tank, defensive, offensive, durable tanks, burst tanks, tanks which spike for seconds and create havoc ... this will be great

I personally think I will kill infantry at least as hard as I do now in 1.7 (mainly due to the reduced AV dmg) However, a single burst damage gunnlogi with missiles will kill me as hard as I kill infantry (finally! this will be great)

I dont think that ill ever be finished..but i can slowitup for a bit if your gonna spread some knowledge.

My tanks are squeezing right now ... that's nothing special but good fitting.

My next point is, I fitted a STD hull with defensive complex modules and only STD offensive modules/weapons.
I'm looking forward to ADV hull, which can be fitted even better.

Next, level 5 everything is normal for tankers. Tankers with less than 5m SP aren't doing any better today. The increase in power of tanks is exponential with SP .. I can kill 2 tanks with my tank today at once, if they are <5m SP tankers.

Also, small turrets really suck most of the time and now they are an option. Like i said earlier, 1 question is Scanner <-> 2 small blasters. Just take what you want .. I will take the scanner.

Yeah, tanks will rock 1.7 and will get slightly nerfed afterwards.

Edit: I will add detailed fittings in this thread later, taking the numbers from the official numbers thread.

In a match?

splash damage isnt relevant to the forges use as an av weapon if you think it is your a scrub.

That, I agree

The word "scrub" lost every meaning in this forums.
Everybody is calling each other scrub .. you could say, they are all "scrubs".
Everybody who thinks this means anything, is lost.

Well your in luck, because I am quite literally everything in this game, not just infantry.

And it is true, if you have to go to a safe zone to be effective or kill something, your pathetic.

You make lots of assumptions in your arguments

1.) I am a sniper, and I am my own counter-sniper. You won't see me head glitching with a heavy suit holding a Thale

2.) I am not complaining about redline sniping, I'm just stating how it's a cheap tactic. Kinda like corps that do nothing but spam Core Locus Grenades on top of PRO triage hives in PC Matches

3.) If you get counter-sniped, 9/10 times it's your own fault. You will almost never find me when I'm sniping. Heck, one time I even spent the entire match sniping directly under an enemy with a Charge

4.) If you don't have an NT-511 by the very least, your doing something wrong. You'd have to be a nut job to use the free sniper fits.

"That's the game dude"? So if I line up 16 corp mates with Freedom Mass Drivers and core locus grenades, on top of Ishukone Nanohives in a dom match and then say "That's the game dude" you would have no problem with that?

If I had my squad mates blow themselves up with Mass Drivers so I can rep them until we have enough points for an orbital strike, it would be perfectly okay because "That's the game dude"?

If you are going to defend cheap "tactics", then you may want to come up with something better than "That's the game dude"