Taken from the first page of the Eve Online: The Second Decade hard-cover book.

Barnett:
"CCP talk of expansion packs and add-ons but if they can't even introduce many features that were promised from release do we think we will ever see such a thing as a first-person option in the future, despite the fact the developers once said in a CSM that this was on the agenda?"

Elan Dochin:
"The game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words."


Ten years later we're hearing the same exact things from the Dust 514 guys.

Wow, spooky. I guess the impossible just may be possible. Yay.

Elan Dochin:
"The game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words."

Post it to the front page, go for it. Somebody will just post the historical subscription counts in response. Eve has grown consistently for 10 years says CCP. Dust however has no subscriptions because it's f2p, so you're pretty much stuck with looking at players online, which has unfortunately been going consistently down.

I love Dust, don't get me wrong. But at some point you have to step back and realize that you're playing with the same couple hundred players every time you play.

Post it to the front page, go for it. Somebody will just post the historical subscription counts in response. Eve has grown consistently for 10 years says CCP. Dust however has no subscriptions because it's f2p, so you're pretty much stuck with looking at players online, which has unfortunately been going consistently down.

I love Dust, don't get me wrong. But at some point you have to step back and realize that you're playing with the same couple hundred players every time you play.

If, by consistently going down you mean "Ever since a ton of media outlets and reviewers got on to try the game out" - we've had the same consistent number of players as we did in Beta.

By consistently down I mean consistently down. Tell yourself whatever you want, then look at the actual statistics for the past year. Or don't, I don't really care, but just how many thousands of those players exactly were "media outlets and reviewers"?

For now...

1. That CCP still have not implemented first person mode for EVE, and by proxy still haven't implemented a ton of the stuff they had planned ten years ago.

2. The player base is rather stupid.

Also bear in mind that was right around the time the Caldari Prime event occurred and more players would have been active for that event.

I've been playing since June 2012 and I can say that the player count hasn't gone anywhere since then and that can be confirmed both by the CPM and CCP.

If, by consistently going down you mean "Ever since a ton of media outlets and reviewers got on to try the game out" - we've had the same consistent number of players as we did in Beta.

CCP was working on a project called Ambulation or Walking in Station for EVE, dealing with players being able to walk around outside of their ships. That project wasn't Dust, and that project got more or less scrapped and turned into walking around in your Captain's Quarters and never interacting with others in that manner.

Taken from the first page of the Eve Online: The Second Decade hard-cover book.

Barnett:
"CCP talk of expansion packs and add-ons but if they can't even introduce many features that were promised from release do we think we will ever see such a thing as a first-person option in the future, despite the fact the developers once said in a CSM that this was on the agenda?"

Elan Dochin:
"The game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words."


Ten years later we're hearing the same exact things from the Dust 514 guys.

Exactly, just empty promises. I dont even know why they take away "beta" brand. Game is still like beta, it defo not a full release. No flow in gameplay - like in trailers, No proxy, No quality servers, Low quality graphics,Terible mechanicks, Horible bugs, No proper MOVE optimilisation etc. etc.
Just broken promises.

Edit: Ambulation was set to be really awesome, a lot of players still have hopes for something along those lines to be implemented. There were supposed to be player owned stores in the stations, gambling halls, stuff like that. Maybe it will come in the future, it's on PCs so they don't have to worry about their platform disappearing anytime soon.

CCP was working on a project called Ambulation or Walking in Station for EVE, dealing with players being able to walk around outside of their ships. That project wasn't Dust, and that project got more or less scrapped and turned into walking around in your Captain's Quarters and never interacting with others in that manner.

Edit: Ambulation was set to be really awesome, a lot of players still have hopes for something along those lines to be implemented. There were supposed to be player owned stores in the stations, gambling halls, stuff like that. Maybe it will come in the future, it's on PCs so they don't have to worry about their platform disappearing anytime soon.

I want something like this, where EVE players and Dust players are all walking around in these stations together, have access to the same player owned stores, gambling halls, and stuff. That would be big in growing a sense of community as well as making Dust really stand out and be all, "Yeah, I'm an MMO. Deal with it."

Would rather they fix the prominent issues first.

Taken from the first page of the Eve Online: The Second Decade hard-cover book.

Barnett:
"CCP talk of expansion packs and add-ons but if they can't even introduce many features that were promised from release do we think we will ever see such a thing as a first-person option in the future, despite the fact the developers once said in a CSM that this was on the agenda?"

Elan Dochin:
"The game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words."


Ten years later we're hearing the same exact things from the Dust 514 guys.

Post it to the front page, go for it. Somebody will just post the historical subscription counts in response. Eve has grown consistently for 10 years says CCP. Dust however has no subscriptions because it's f2p, so you're pretty much stuck with looking at players online, which has unfortunately been going consistently down.

I love Dust, don't get me wrong. But at some point you have to step back and realize that you're playing with the same couple hundred players every time you play.

This game just needs some time, like EVE Online did.

I have full confidence in CCP