Taken from the first page of the Eve Online: The Second Decade hard-cover book.

Barnett:
"CCP talk of expansion packs and add-ons but if they can't even introduce many features that were promised from release do we think we will ever see such a thing as a first-person option in the future, despite the fact the developers once said in a CSM that this was on the agenda?"

Elan Dochin:
"The game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words."


Ten years later we're hearing the same exact things from the Dust 514 guys.

This game just needs some time, like EVE Online did.

I have full confidence in CCP

The game CCP envisioned, will be made by others... there are two competitors who will make very cool games that have shittons more immersion than eve ever will have.

One of those is crowdfunded, and has collected 23 million dollars already. This project has more immersion running around a virtual hangar than Dust514 has in their "finished" game.

Progress is something that needs to be made and not only talked about.

This game might not be dead, but it's not delivering any of the promised content to keep players interested...

Well its up to CCP to keep working towards it then, they owe us that much.

DUST ain't a PC game.

A PS3 game that gets decent in 2014 is a game no one cares about.

This game will need to rerelease on PS4 whenever they can produce a quality title with the data they get from whomever remains playing this things after most of us migrate to the PS4.

Hopefully when they get the second kick at the can, they do a better job of it.

Don't let the EVE numbers fool you, some people have 10-15 alts and most have two.

PS4 doesn't really have any worthwhile titles, imo.

Destiny is a game that is level focused so "playing with your friends" is going to involve you getting to the same level as them, in which point they're going to start a new character and repeat the process.

Planetside 2 is cool and all but it's one of those "why" games - awesome feature, having a massive open world where you can fight along hundreds of people... but for what, exactly? Fighting for the sake of fighting with little benefit beyond having more resources to call in vehicles that have a twenty minute timer.

Warframe is a very cool game that I've played on the PC but good luck finding any sense of purpose as it has the exact same "why" reason as above - fighting for the sake of getting better gear...... to fight with.

This isn't to say those games aren't going to be immensely popular but the substance is rather lacking in all of them. It takes the same aspect of almost all burn-out games: The Skinner Box

The reason that people keep playing Eve Online isn't because it's some sci-niche game, hell Perpetuum Online took the -exact- same skill system and player-based economy, threw it into a mech game and this is probably the first time you've ever even heard of it.

Yes, the market moves fast. Yes, a large amount of players are probably going to move on when the PS4 comes out - but Eve Online (and presumably Dust 514) has this weird way of drawing you back in later on because they're constantly releasing updates and content. The really stupid system you hate in the game might not be there a few months from now, the content you've been waiting on might be. There aren't any other games that really do that.

Sure, Planetside 2 has their road-map and content updates but it's not exactly doing the game much justice when it's literally "take pre-determined territory, move pre-determined frontline forward/backward a bit, kill, kill, kill, kill, kill". There aren't interesting ways of accomplishing tasks or creative methods of establishing social networks that can backstab one another because it's all pre-determined. You have an outfit, sure, but you're never going to leave the New Conglomerate or whoever it is you're fighting for. You will -ALWAYS- be moving that frontline against Red and Purple, there's no way to completely conquer your opposition.