Boots up PS2
Clicks instant action
"Error Cannot use Instant Action Now. No battles found" and this was during an alert.
Exo-wargate population less than 10. Warpgate population 50ish.
Whatever killed my server is beginning to kill the other servers as similar complaints are beginning to crop up on the more populated ones.

I saw a live feed of PS2 on twitch once before. I think it went like the guy and 50 others trying to snipe the other team with rifles from 100m away... and nobody was dieing.

I tried PS2 a while back and my experience was crowded into a small room with force fields on the doors with 15 others shooting at the camping enemies behind the walls.

Yeh, s'what happens when they take the entire complex save for your team's one little spawn location and that's entirely by design, there's no emmergent gameplay going on right there. That wasn't something the players just up and decided to do one day and it became common practice, it's just how the game works.

It's -SUPPOSED- to give your team an opportunity to turn things around but I guess SOE thought that the players on the opposing team would be nice and give them the chance to get out or something.

Well my patience meter has been fully recharged lol.

Post it to the front page, go for it. Somebody will just post the historical subscription counts in response. Eve has grown consistently for 10 years says CCP. Dust however has no subscriptions because it's f2p, so you're pretty much stuck with looking at players online, which has unfortunately been going consistently down.

I love Dust, don't get me wrong. But at some point you have to step back and realize that you're playing with the same couple hundred players every time you play.

Not from what I've been tracking on avg peak has 100 more people every week

Does it mean that Dust is not gonna be worth playing for another 5 years?

But not the same beta players that for sure. Still play every once in a while, for only one match. But I've been here long enough to see many of em go.

Taken from the first page of the Eve Online: The Second Decade hard-cover book.

Barnett:
"CCP talk of expansion packs and add-ons but if they can't even introduce many features that were promised from release do we think we will ever see such a thing as a first-person option in the future, despite the fact the developers once said in a CSM that this was on the agenda?"

Elan Dochin:
"The game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words."


Ten years later we're hearing the same exact things from the Dust 514 guys.

While I do appreciate what you are saying and I certainly do hope Dust sticks around for the long haul, as I've invested quite a bit of time and money into this game, it is hubris to expect that just because CCP was able to pull off what it has with Eve that a similar development model will work with Dust. Eve is a niche title with little competition, a big fish in a small pond if you will. Dust is a guppy in an ocean full of sharks. Like I said, I hope we are looking back at this game 10 years from now and reminiscing about how much it has changed and improved, I just don't think it is a given because they did it with Eve.

Wasn't aware there were any FPS games with persistent territory, insane customization (fitting) and an actual drive behind the social aspect and not just Team A vs Team B. Planetside 2 comes close but there's not much in the way of the social aspect, you can't backstab one another or the like.

Taken from the first page of the Eve Online: The Second Decade hard-cover book.

Barnett:
"CCP talk of expansion packs and add-ons but if they can't even introduce many features that were promised from release do we think we will ever see such a thing as a first-person option in the future, despite the fact the developers once said in a CSM that this was on the agenda?"

Elan Dochin:
"The game'll be dead in six months. Mark my words."


Ten years later we're hearing the same exact things from the Dust 514 guys.

Most folks that play FPS do not care about persistent territory. Case in point: At the time of this post there are 352 dust players online and 23,000 plus BF3 players online and that is just for the PS3. Dust has a wonderful concept. That is what brought it to most to our attention. I do not wish to see the game fail or die, but I am a realist. The game is just not very good at the moment and has become boring. Unless you are in a PC battle, the pub games are a snooze fest which makes them no different than Cod or BF or any other shooter out there.

2308 dust players on. bf has downtime also, look at how fast their numbers come back after downtime compared to dust. quit fooling yourself. We are what we are. A niche fan base. There is not many of us that play this game. If you believe otherwise, then you are being delusional.

2308 dust players on. bf has downtime also, look at how fast their numbers come back after downtime compared to dust. quit fooling yourself. We are what we are. A niche fan base. There is not many of us that play this game. If you believe otherwise, then you are being delusional.

/me snorts, trying not to laugh

Oh, right... PS3... Thought we were imagining that player-owned servers on the PC had downtimes or something...

Continue on.

I'm not saying there are as many as other established games. I'm just laughing at how you pulled a number 3 minutes after downtime for a niche game.

I feel that Dust will carry on, and it will grow, and it will shrink, but over time, I see how it might have the same potential that could make it part of the EVE universe.

But judging by your pessimistic attitude and word usage to isolate Dust 514 into the circular filing bin in your mind, then I have only one thing to say to you:

Battlefield is that way ------------------------------------>

Keep drinking the kool-aid fanboy. You obviously seem to believe in your mind that this game is every bit as popular as other games when it is not.

Wasn't aware there were any FPS games with persistent territory, insane customization (fitting) and an actual drive behind the social aspect and not just Team A vs Team B. Planetside 2 comes close but there's not much in the way of the social aspect, you can't backstab one another or the like.

All the things you mention are what drew me to Dust when I usually avoid multiplayer FPS. Unfortunately we have a lobby shooter right now and a development cycle that is not bringing us closer to the MMO and meta parts of this game while at the same time other console games are adding some of what I first heard of and we don't have commander mode in Battlefield 4 and persistence (even if its a different sort of game seemingly) in Destiny.