1-Yeah like your corp WOULDNT lie for you.
2-Even if you are some Incredible GENIUS AVer, it doesnt mean Tanks are paper thin.just the tankers were not as good or lacked support.

I bet that if True Adamance+Void Echo+TheLegend were in a match vs you,you wouldnt be able to drop a single one of them....

3-im tryingto reachan agreement here with the tankers, you are just trying to provoque me,and will fail.Im in too good of a mood today bro.

Infantry AV vs Armor tank is basically what most of the time im talking about.

I know DS and shield tanks are utter crap and need a serious buff.

oh, armor has a big disadvantage, mainly because of the damage bonus towards armor that everything has.

It gets slightly compensated by the broken Rep modules.I agree without them maddys would be in the same situation as shield tanks

''that's why your in such a rational mood today''

That and the fact that (Godin was right) im not drunk, you see, i work in ... a place where i can drink while working....My line of work permits it.
But i got in a fight and i cant for at least 2 weeks , so im sober and i dont get pissed off easily there by dont end up talking without thinking...

for once, we have agreed on balance for something.... I think hell is going to freeze over tomorrow

for once, we have agreed on balance for something.... I think hell is going to freeze over tomorrow

I have the recording equipment available now... may not be the best for hi def but you can definitely see whats going on. I could keep the experience on visual and audio record

btw... who was the ****** that liked lukboy's post?

Not being high enough? I have Prof 4 and 2 CX damage mods.
I dont use MLT gear and you know it.

''teamwork and skill level are how your meant to kill us''
But for tankers to run solo is fair right?....

Heh i know where this is going.

AHA.so THEY ARE in business...
They dont get 1 shotted as (not you adamance) some tankers claim by AV.

Case rest.

''I'd love to have you in my tank checkmate, but you wouldn't want to spend all of your time sitting as a gunner, that's not interesting gameplay for you is it?''

I would , but dont think im going to think they are UP unless we get 1 HKOd by AV XD

1-Again beinga little selfish here aint ya' .What about us Infantry trying to have fun vs other infantry instead of having to worry about tanks? Biased thought is biased.

2-So basically,if i run proto gear i shoudlnt be able to get killed by MLT/STD gear at all.By your reasoning..hmm..Proto suits / weapons / gear might be UNDERPOWERED then...

3-I get it. But what you are saying is RPG / MMORP thought. This is a FPS,balance means that with skill, you can take out another player REGARDLESS of time invested in the game. If gear/time invested is always going to tryumph over skill, its not balance.

4- same as 3.

@ adamance
''1-Yes Tank users should have a natural advantage over infantry, its the purpose for deploying a tank.

2-E.G- Take 2 500k SP toons. One pays 300K for his MLT tank, one uses a free MLT fit. Why does the AV have a natural advantage over the Tanker when they spent no ISK or SP to achieve that?''

1- So should AV then have a natural advantage over vehicles,since its designed for that purpose.
2-Because its designed to take out tanks.Same as a MLT tank can kill any PROTO if he is not carrying AV weaponry.

So should AV then have a natural advantage over vehicles,since its designed for that purpose.
Because its designed to take out tanks.Same as a MLT tank can kill any PROTO if he is not carrying AV weaponry.

really, using what? I have yet to come close to a 5000 wp game with my logi character. 25's more of a low average. I also think it requires considerably less skill to pilot tanks. A few learning experiences, and some situational awareness and your good to go. The problem with tanks is that good builds are really set in stone. once you meet the requirements for them you can go around slaughtering infantry.

I bet that if True Adamance+Void Echo+TheLegend were in a match vs you,you wouldnt be able to drop a single one of them solo....

3-im trying to reach an agreement here with the tankers, you are just trying to provoque me,and will fail.Im in too good of a mood today bro.

[quote=KING CHECKMATE]

I bet that if True Adamance+Void Echo+TheLegend were in a match vs you,you wouldnt be able to drop a single one of them solo....

3-im trying to reach an agreement here with the tankers, you are just trying to provoque me,and will fail.Im in too good of a mood today bro.

Are you actually admitting that there are intelligent tankers, more so intelligent than infantry?

1 players with 3 weapons to use at the same time?

yeah right....

What seems to be missed by nearly everyone is that Tanks require support, to use them solo is just ********, if you are and losing them.. tough. Look at Eve.. a solo Dread can be killed but a small fleet of HACs.. however if that Dread has a support fleet... then it's able to do it's job.. which is kill BIG stuff. while being protected.

I personally think that one guys with a swarm or a forge should not be able to kill a tank. but a team of guys should find it easy... promoting team work.

Nearly everyone i have seen using tanks uses them as a solo win button. which they are not.

also, often Tank chaps feel that tanks should be usable ALL the time in EVERY fight. This is simply stupid.. if we applied the same logi to suits, we would not have heavies, assults, scouts and logi.. or indeed the race variants. Just a single "cover all" suit and a single weapon that does the same DPS across all damage types at any range.

Now I can and do use tanks.. but only when they are needed and then using the correct (i hope) set up for the task i need them for... no point in running a rail tank into a city to kill infantry for example. Yet is seems that is what tanks chaps want... I have seen a post that asked for a tank to have two main weapons, a rail and a blaster...

It's time Dust got their head around what CCP do with their games... and it is not support solo game play, but infact team based play.