1 players with 3 weapons to use at the same time?

yeah right....

What seems to be missed by nearly everyone is that Tanks require support, to use them solo is just ********, if you are and losing them.. tough. Look at Eve.. a solo Dread can be killed but a small fleet of HACs.. however if that Dread has a support fleet... then it's able to do it's job.. which is kill BIG stuff. while being protected.

I personally think that one guys with a swarm or a forge should not be able to kill a tank. but a team of guys should find it easy... promoting team work.

Nearly everyone i have seen using tanks uses them as a solo win button. which they are not.

also, often Tank chaps feel that tanks should be usable ALL the time in EVERY fight. This is simply stupid.. if we applied the same logi to suits, we would not have heavies, assults, scouts and logi.. or indeed the race variants. Just a single "cover all" suit and a single weapon that does the same DPS across all damage types at any range.

Now I can and do use tanks.. but only when they are needed and then using the correct (i hope) set up for the task i need them for... no point in running a rail tank into a city to kill infantry for example. Yet is seems that is what tanks chaps want... I have seen a post that asked for a tank to have two main weapons, a rail and a blaster...

It's time Dust got their head around what CCP do with their games... and it is not support solo game play, but infact team based play.

Nice crutchlauncher

IT IS TRUE, however; Armor repairers are broken as hell too,and i dont see tankers complaining about them.
Broken vs Broken = weird balance.

I mean if a tank can take 6 of MY Swarms , plus 4 proximity mines plus 2 packedgrenades in less than 30 secs.... see where im going?

But this aspect of the game is OVERALL f***d up, no need to start fighting over this again,lets just leave it as it needs a fix.

Im sorry i have no reason to lie:

i use ADV Swarms with prof 4 and 2 Cx Damage mods.
Im not lying. I even have the name of the tanker written around, he played for Dark Legion.

-Shot 1 volley of Swarms to scare him,
-As he got into the ''city'' are for cover (ambush i planed) he ate the 4 STD Prox mines while i reloaded.
-He decided to stop there and shoot at me, i responded with 3 STD ADV packed AV nades, 2 hit; 1 missed
-He decided he was low on HP and started moving (Exceedingly fast if i may..)
-I , while he was repairing armor shot him 3 more volleys
-He obviously outran me while i reloaded again and turned around in a corner where the ''fantastic'' feature tankers love about swarms kicked in and the next two volleys made a 90 degree turn avoiding walls and i got hit markers again.

He survived and fled.
A vein in my head popped.

Not saying Swarms are not VERY strong , just saying its funny tankers all they do is bash on AV weaponry but they wouldnt bat an eye if Armor repairers stay as they are. THIS IS BIASED; and not in the true nature of looking for BALANCE

AHA.so THEY ARE in business...
They dont get 1 shotted as (not you adamance) some tankers claim by AV.

Case rest.
Im off for a cig ...

idc about tanks :D There I said it :P

actually, I only get one shotted by one specific AV weapon... the assault forge gun.... such massive amount of damage in so little time.... it out does even my proto rail gun in both speed and damage..... id say that needs reworking..

the second thing that kills me the fastest is the lol nades, 3 of them takes down all 7000HP of armor that I have in under 5 seconds, from soloists and groups... if anything, the AV nades are the top AV weapon that needs to be nerfed, changed or just plain removed...

1-Again beinga little selfish here aint ya' .What about us Infantry trying to have fun vs other infantry instead of having to worry about tanks? Biased thought is biased.

2-So basically,if i run proto gear i shoudlnt be able to get killed by MLT/STD gear at all.By your reasoning..hmm..Proto suits / weapons / gear might be UNDERPOWERED then...

3-I get it. But what you are saying is RPG / MMORP thought. This is a FPS,balance means that with skill, you can take out another player REGARDLESS of time invested in the game. If gear/time invested is always going to tryumph over skill, its not balance.

4- same as 3.

@ adamance
''1-Yes Tank users should have a natural advantage over infantry, its the purpose for deploying a tank.

2-E.G- Take 2 500k SP toons. One pays 300K for his MLT tank, one uses a free MLT fit. Why does the AV have a natural advantage over the Tanker when they spent no ISK or SP to achieve that?''

1- So should AV then have a natural advantage over vehicles,since its designed for that purpose.
2-Because its designed to take out tanks.Same as a MLT tank can kill any PROTO if he is not carrying AV weaponry.

@ Void Echo

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@ Adamace (wow im getting a beating here from tankers ..)

1-Yes but you have not put any effort or risk into using that fit, that is why AV is easy mode. I care not for balance, only the amount of effort someone has put into something.

2-Effort you never have to put in while Aving. If you put in 12m Sp into destroying tanks I would have no problem, you haven't put the same amount of effort in as a tanker has, thus solo you should never be able to beat them.

1-Effort? yeap. I'm missing on fun infatry vs infatry kills in order to spend a whole game hunting a tank,sometimes not even killing it,always not getting WP for pushing it back. Also, you care not for balance adamance, then why should WE AV infantry care for balance then...? You dont care for balance, and Void wants to get in a Pub match and unless we hace 3+ PROTO AV specialist working together,he want to be indestructible... I mean, lol.
The amount of effor will and SHOULD never be more powerful than SKILL, NEVER. SKILL > ALL

2-In this case, SP needed for tanks must be level to Infantry level, so that being a specialized AVer (with all things into consideration,dropsuit,weapon,sidearm,equipment,moddules,etc...) matches being a specialized tanker.

i feel for the infantry.it does seem a little silly that tanks can go into almost any match and pull off 25+-0 games and I always play by myself. Proto av can obviously stop me, but I expect it too and I can still manage to get good scores. I think the only time I really get completely ticked is when they have fully dedicated squads or have unfair vantage points. All talk about how it is now is a little pointless. Best to wait and see how the new changes play out. Which I have come to kinda like.

really, using what? I have yet to come close to a 5000 wp game with my logi character. 25's more of a low average. I also think it requires considerably less skill to pilot tanks. A few learning experiences, and some situational awareness and your good to go. The problem with tanks is that good builds are really set in stone. once you meet the requirements for them you can go around slaughtering infantry.

Are you actually admitting that there are intelligent tankers, more so intelligent than infantry?