Let's just ignore vehicles for this example, and focus on infantry vs infantry in a parallel universe.

Imagine this:

In this universe, suits need to be taken out with very specific weapons. No exception. If you don't have the right weapon to take out that suit, you are absolutely screwed. They can stand there and take it all night long while you dish it out.

Example:

- Player A has weapons designed to take out ADV suits, but ADV suits only. If militia/STD or proto attack this player, the player is defenseless. Nothing they do will harm a militia/STD or proto suit in any way worth a damn.

- Player B has weapons designed to take out militia/STD, but is completely defenseless against ADV and proto suits.

- Player C has weapons designed to take out proto suits, but is absolutely helpless against ADV and militia/STD suits.


So would this be balanced, or completely unbalanced and ridiculous? Cause this is almost exactly what anti-vehicle and anti-infantry players have to deal with.

Anti-vehicle - Only good against vehciles, vulnerable vs infantry and vehicles.
Anti-infantry- Only good against infantry, vulnerable vs vehicles and infantry.


And here's the vehicle players setup.

Anti-infantry & vehicle - Vulnerable only by AV players and some vehicles, but excellent against all vehicles and all infantry.


This is wrong and needs to change. Vehicles have way too much of an advantage. They should have to make hard choices like infantry players do.

Either:

1. Vehicles only good against other vehicles, but worthless against infantry
2. Vehicles only good against infantry, defenseless to other vehicles.

Or:

Infantry players need dedicated AV on all suits. Which means separate PG/CPU and slots for AV specific weaponry, this way infantry can carry both and be equally effective against vehicles and infantry. However the extra PG/CPU and slots can only be used for AV weapons (that way they can't be abused).

I don't use tanks so the fact I'd like them to be like tanks and represent a scary badass on the battlefield has nothing to do with tankers asking for unreasonable things.

But King you know swarms are broken as hell. Double DPS in prep for vehicle rebalance that never came.... now just double DPS, autolocking crutch launchers as Spkr says.

I think a tank did something naughty to him.

I'm still extending my offer to you. You can pilot one of my tanks, rail, blaster or missile, for however long, and we'll analyze the game. 5 per day, but only games that have ADV AV or higher count towards that total.

Afterwards, I'll make a post on here about it telling everyone how you did.

Okay, so ~21k damage. Still not buying it.

its called hardeners and reps.... and your swarm skill not being high enough. it normally takes about 3 volleys for someone to take down an average tanker if hes alone, it only takes one volley if there are multiple swarmers present...

teamwork and skill level are how your meant to kill us, not solo tactics with militia gear

Super powerful armour reppers are all that's keeping tankers in business, saving those canny shield tankers I hate so much.

1-it would be awesome if more people skilled into tanks, I would have tons more fun battling other tankers than I do now because of you AVers getting in the way of trying to have fun here.. I say let more people skill into tanks, should revive the game for more aged tankers like myself.


2-in my truly honest opinion about all the classes in the game, the more of a personal investment you make in a certain class SP wise should grant you the right and privilege to outperform all other players in other classes and your own that have not put as much personal investment in their own classes as you have done for yours...

3-ex: a 17 Mil total SP tanker (myself) should definitely out perform a single av guy with less than 5 mil SP in AV mainly because... well I put much more time and investment into tanks than hes done for AV...

3-ex 2: a 6 mil SP sniper should out perform a 2 mil SP AR mainly because the sniper put more time and investment into sniping than the AR user did for his own class.

get it yet?

4-in all of human history including new eden, personal investment and time put in have always come out on top and out performed everyone and everything that has not done the same ore similar.... those that do are called competitors and the human life span drives off this basic survival instinct, to out perform the competitors and everyone else in order to survive.

Why? I can walk into matches and have games better than I ever would have done in a tank.

That just tells me you're doing it wrong by trying to solo a tanker.