Respect you as a player, but you comments regarding vehicles always suck. Please just keep quiet on the subject, or become more flexible in your suggestions, in the same way I tell tankers to relax and consider what changes can be made without ******* one set of people over.

Also if you think tanks are easy mode and they don't have to make choice you are an idiot like Void Echo says, I play, and have played infantry for months now, its easy, it takes only a modicum of skill to get good at infantry foot work, and isn't all that complex.

You're trying to get them nerfed again? Good god some people just don't know when to quit lol

DJINN leukoplast once again shows how little he actually knows about vehicles

He thinks that vehicle have a weapons which can deal with infantry and vehicles, at best the blaster is the only one but it requires the pilot to risk his tank in CQC, the railgun is worse than the FG, and lolmissiles is worse than a mass driver

All our turrets require the pilot to aim, something that the majority of AV players do not have a clue about, AV nades - homing crutch no aim required spam from wherever and never miss, swarms fire and forget, keeps lock on if not looking at target, can lock on through cover, can jump and lock on and fire, no aim required, FG stronger and more splash than a vehicle mounted railgun and cheaper, requires some aim, plasma cannon needs a buff hardest AV weapon to use thus majority avoid using it

Not too mention it costs about 5games or more to replace if you lose one vehicle

While you think a basic tank is godly in the right hands we are still UP because lolproto AV which generally everyone has these days, play a PC match and proto is ther once again of course

i want ccp to hotfix ai to all mini vehicle turrets when unmanned and then let us lock it to ai only lol...maybe give us a skill tree for the ai as well make it smarter


it's learning muwahahahahaha

just for ***** and giggles their hp is still laughable for a tank

+1

Explain to me why the AI in the installations couldn't run on a tank too? It's big enough to have the compute power.

i want ccp to hotfix ai to all mini vehicle turrets when unmanned and then let us lock it to ai only lol...maybe give us a skill tree for the ai as well make it smarter


it's learning muwahahahahaha

just for ***** and giggles their hp is still laughable for a tank

+1

Explain to me why the AI in the installations couldn't run on a tank too? It's big enough to have the compute power.

1 players with 3 weapons to use at the same time?

yeah right....

What seems to be missed by nearly everyone is that Tanks require support, to use them solo is just ********, if you are and losing them.. tough. Look at Eve.. a solo Dread can be killed but a small fleet of HACs.. however if that Dread has a support fleet... then it's able to do it's job.. which is kill BIG stuff. while being protected.

I personally think that one guys with a swarm or a forge should not be able to kill a tank. but a team of guys should find it easy... promoting team work.

Nearly everyone i have seen using tanks uses them as a solo win button. which they are not.

also, often Tank chaps feel that tanks should be usable ALL the time in EVERY fight. This is simply stupid.. if we applied the same logi to suits, we would not have heavies, assults, scouts and logi.. or indeed the race variants. Just a single "cover all" suit and a single weapon that does the same DPS across all damage types at any range.

Now I can and do use tanks.. but only when they are needed and then using the correct (i hope) set up for the task i need them for... no point in running a rail tank into a city to kill infantry for example. Yet is seems that is what tanks chaps want... I have seen a post that asked for a tank to have two main weapons, a rail and a blaster...

It's time Dust got their head around what CCP do with their games... and it is not support solo game play, but infact team based play.

by your last remark, its seems as though you want CCP to make their game based on what you want, not how they intend.

I think he said the opposite

Let's just ignore vehicles for this example, and focus on infantry vs infantry in a parallel universe.

Imagine this:

In this universe, suits need to be taken out with very specific weapons. No exception. If you don't have the right weapon to take out that suit, you are absolutely screwed. They can stand there and take it all night long while you dish it out.

Example:

- Player A has weapons designed to take out ADV suits, but ADV suits only. If militia/STD or proto attack this player, the player is defenseless. Nothing they do will harm a militia/STD or proto suit in any way worth a damn.

- Player B has weapons designed to take out militia/STD, but is completely defenseless against ADV and proto suits.

- Player C has weapons designed to take out proto suits, but is absolutely helpless against ADV and militia/STD suits.


So would this be balanced, or completely unbalanced and ridiculous? Cause this is almost exactly what anti-vehicle and anti-infantry players have to deal with.

Anti-vehicle - Only good against vehciles, vulnerable vs infantry and vehicles.
Anti-infantry- Only good against infantry, vulnerable vs vehicles and infantry.


And here's the vehicle players setup.

Anti-infantry & vehicle - Vulnerable only by AV players and some vehicles, but excellent against all vehicles and all infantry.


This is wrong and needs to change. Vehicles have way too much of an advantage. They should have to make hard choices like infantry players do.

Either:

1. Vehicles only good against other vehicles, but worthless against infantry
2. Vehicles only good against infantry, defenseless to other vehicles.

Or:

Infantry players need dedicated AV on all suits. Which means separate PG/CPU and slots for AV specific weaponry, this way infantry can carry both and be equally effective against vehicles and infantry. However the extra PG/CPU and slots can only be used for AV weapons (that way they can't be abused).

Lol, again with the tanks? My tank easily gets destroyed by anybody worrying about it. Likewise, the only people that die by my tank are ppl who are out in the open jumping around it.

If anything just nerf the tracking on the blaster turret.

1 players with 3 weapons to use at the same time?

yeah right....

What seems to be missed by nearly everyone is that Tanks require support, to use them solo is just ********, if you are and losing them.. tough. Look at Eve.. a solo Dread can be killed but a small fleet of HACs.. however if that Dread has a support fleet... then it's able to do it's job.. which is kill BIG stuff. while being protected.

I personally think that one guys with a swarm or a forge should not be able to kill a tank. but a team of guys should find it easy... promoting team work.

Nearly everyone i have seen using tanks uses them as a solo win button. which they are not.

also, often Tank chaps feel that tanks should be usable ALL the time in EVERY fight. This is simply stupid.. if we applied the same logi to suits, we would not have heavies, assults, scouts and logi.. or indeed the race variants. Just a single "cover all" suit and a single weapon that does the same DPS across all damage types at any range.

Now I can and do use tanks.. but only when they are needed and then using the correct (i hope) set up for the task i need them for... no point in running a rail tank into a city to kill infantry for example. Yet is seems that is what tanks chaps want... I have seen a post that asked for a tank to have two main weapons, a rail and a blaster...

It's time Dust got their head around what CCP do with their games... and it is not support solo game play, but infact team based play.