i find it amusing that ppl send mail or post threads about proto pub stompers.
if you got the isk to use them do so.
i dont see what the deal is anyway what you mad that you die more to the proto then the regular militia fit?
are the proto players supposed to go militia to make you feel better about your scrubness?
get good get a proto and use it thats it. besides the threads are useless a month later because you see the same player a few weeks later using the proto suit with the excuse of "well everyone else does it"
just stop. your waisting space on ther forums with it. worry about real issues like the lag in planetary conquest where the real players who count need the ccp devs assistance. have a nice day.

We. Don't. Care.

obviously someones tiny scrub ego got hurt because a STD PLC cannon one shot his proto suit

People still complain about a game mechanic that someone earned through time invested which doubles as a goal for newer players to achieve? What's the world coming to?

In pubs anything above advanced gear is trying pretty hard.

Just saying.

Especially if you aren't playing the intended way and you're in a squad.

People be mad they can't afford/haven't skilled into proto so they go around crying about "tryhards" and "protobears" or what have you to make themselves feel better. It's a sort of psychological defense mechanism to believe the only reason you died is because the other person had a shinier suit than them.

Fact of the matter is most people who are stomping you probably don't even have an ADV fit set up because people pubstomping have hundreds of millions of ISK (like me) that dont have anything better to spend it on. It's not "tryhard", it's simplifying my fits because ISK has become completely and utterly useless to me. I bought 1000 suits that has lasted me for about 3 months now and I still have hundreds left over.

We don't care that you whine. We don't care that you say it's unfair. We don't care that we lost 200,000 or 500,000 or 1,000,0000 ISK in a match (which never happens) when we have an essentially indefinite supply of ISK. Stop whining, stop creating these pointless threads, and go get better. No one is going to hold your hand or try and make you feel better because you got killed by Mr. Big Bad Protobear.

We. Don't. Care.

In pubs anything above advanced gear is trying pretty hard.

Just saying.

Especially if you aren't playing the intended way and you're in a squad.

Its funny how a corp of scrubs called anonymous spend so much of their time on the forums telling ppl what they should post or think, seems almost fascist, didn't your reply to a mail i sent you regarding your squad losing to a team of randoms include a whine about "using protogear"

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

On a side note, people who have proto but can't afford to run it 24/7 are not managing their isk properly.

And neither do we, but we will happily go on making fun of proto squads in pubs cuz it's like....UFC fighters going all out on a pile of kittens.

It's just sad and funny and mesmerizing all at the same time.

I could... then i started playing with tanks lol

but you use proto in pubs. lol how hypocrytical of you.

You've seen me in countless proto suits?

Lies and slander good man. The only proto you see me in on any average day is my Ishukone Forge Gun, because god gun is god gun. Even that is on an advanced suit, and only comes out when people decide to drop too many vehicles. I can't help it if no one wants to kill me and I have to pull in 20+ infantry kills cuz some scrubs thought it was ok to drive a vehicle with me around.

And that last line you quoted of me was 100% troll sarcasm. Of course this game was built for proto PC squads.

I'm just saying that proto pub squads are sad and make the rest of us laugh (some rage). That's all.

Lost almost 100 million ISK when Uprising first launched trying to make a PC worthy logi ship....that....that did not go well.

And to this day I've yet to enter a single PC match that doesn't give me a full system freeze.

Aaaand I still fly logi even though I barely go past 3 matches with it and it costs me 600K per death

Lost almost 100 million ISK when Uprising first launched trying to make a PC worthy logi ship....that....that did not go well.

And to this day I've yet to enter a single PC match that doesn't give me a full system freeze.

Aaaand I still fly logi even though I barely go past 3 matches with it and it costs me 600K per death

At this moment in time I believe fellow corp members should help out derpship pilots with isk.

so your telling me u never used proto vs us in fw?
denial is something.
but if you feel you need to deny it its cool my point to this thread is dont hate on someone for using proto gear if thats 1 what they prefer 2 they have the money 3 because the just feel like it.
from now on when i see u guys in fw i will use proto gear because i have the isk to do so. also so i can pull 30 to 40 kills on you and you know im good for it.

I could... then i started playing with tanks lol

At this moment in time I believe fellow corp members should help out derpship pilots with isk.

I have a live stream and plenty of recorded videos on my youtube. Most of those do not have proto gear, because I do not use proto gear in most matches.

I also do not play FW.

All I'm saying is proto pub stomping literally takes no skill. When my noob ass tops most of my pubs solo in militia gear, you KNOW trolling pubs in proto squads takes no skill. That's all. You're welcome to it, it doesn't bother me in the least. Simply stating facts. Majority of pubs offer no real competition, so bringing your sunday best is just...silly.

But hey, play whatever way makes you happy

I'm not hating on anyone, just stating my opinions on the matter as someone who does more than plenty fine solo in militia gear most days.

If PC didn't **** my PS3 and if my anxiety wasn't so high these days (**** comms) I would have plenty of ISK to just fly the days away. All my proto gear is wasted because infantry play is so easy and predictable for me, I just want to fly again. These new dropships look boss, so saving my SP now if my brain allows it lol. We really need a queue system for skills like in EVE, where you select a skill and all your SP earned is immediately dumped into that skill until it's unlocked.

::shrugs::

I've been on a self imposed squad ban since Uprising launched, though I might start going mic'less now that squad finder is a thing.

I'm not hating on anyone, just stating my opinions on the matter as someone who does more than plenty fine solo in militia gear most days.

If PC didn't **** my PS3 and if my anxiety wasn't so high these days (**** comms) I would have plenty of ISK to just fly the days away. All my proto gear is wasted because infantry play is so easy and predictable for me, I just want to fly again. These new dropships look boss, so saving my SP now if my brain allows it lol. We really need a queue system for skills like in EVE, where you select a skill and all your SP earned is immediately dumped into that skill until it's unlocked.

::shrugs::

I've been on a self imposed squad ban since Uprising launched, though I might start going mic'less now that squad finder is a thing.

new dropships?? what in new patch we are getting new ones?

Well technically old dropshps, the Grimsnes and....whatever the calamari one is called.

They're currently set to receive a dramatic buff, and are basically whole new ships. If the changes hold, it's going to be a lot less painful being a pilot, if you can figure out some fits (and there are some mean fits you can make with these new numbers and one or no turrets)

my th3 truth acc is a pilot so since i specced into logi ships that means i get sp back? because someone told me they were removing them.

Logi and assault dropships, enforcer HAVs, logistics and scout LAVs are all being removed.

At the very least I think it's safe to imagine a full refund of the vehicle command tree.

sweet i got 8 million plus sp in my enforcer tanks too awsome. now i can use the sp for my minmitar or amarr logi

I don't know what "waisting" is, but it sounds dirty

Also the "get good and get proto suits" argument is moot. There's nothing skill full about accumulating a massive amount of skill points, it's all about time.

That is all I really got to say about that, not arguing one way or the other.

EDIT: Well, I guess I'd also like to say something in regards to that last bit in the OP. Participating on Planetary Conquest doesn't make you any more of a "real" player than anyone else here. Congratulations, you've earned control of some random district in a garbage region of New Eden! Would you like a cookie?

In pubs anything above advanced gear is trying pretty hard.

Just saying.

Especially if you aren't playing the intended way and you're in a squad.

better players compete. plain and simple.
pub matches with the way the q system is putting all new guys on one side with one squad of solid players vs an entire stacked team is not skill.
thats just a massacre.
you dont have to argue a fact is a fact.
accumulating skill points is considered skill. obviously.
because those skills are being used to make you that much of a better player that and teamwork.

I made a few accounts in BETA and they each have over 10m sp without me ever playing them ... that SP hasn;t taken any skill to acquire because there is a thing called passive SP

Good players dont use Proto gear all the time .. fact is if you always play with a gear advantage you get into bad habits, sure you have the ISK to not worry about losing proto suits but if you get into the habit of playing recklessly because you can afford too and you become a bad player ... take it from experience .. when you run into enemies who have the same level of gear as you and you've got into the habit of playing recklessly because you've been stronger gear wise than your opponents it's extremely difficult to suddenly revert to how you used to play before you starting stomped new players and you will get absolutely destroyed ...

Spend some time playing in miltia/standard/adv gear be the one at a disadvantage and you will improve as a player .. I got so used to rolling proto gear that I actually got worse and started playing like an idiot running around solo getting 20+-0 in pub games and then went into PC with the same mentality and got owned .. since then I dont use proto gear in pub games I run miltia/standard and sometimes adv if im up against a squad of alliance members and when you get used to playing at a disadvantage you get so much better its unreal .. you think more about what your doing where your going who to target etc because you know you'll likely lose in a straight gun fight so you have to play smart to nullify the gear advantage .. when you get used to playing like this and then switch to your most expensive suit you become an absolute beast .. i now save my proto suits for PC

And neither do we, but we will happily go on making fun of proto squads in pubs cuz it's like....UFC fighters going all out on a pile of kittens.

This is another way to see it ;

Every time you Proto Stomp a battle you making new players leave, and by doing so you costing CCP money because they losing potential new costumers. Some of us understand this and use only Advanced gear for the benefit of everyone.

But you carry on being salvage... your stats and personal satisfaction is much more important than the game.

HAHAHAHA. What a cute idea. Take it easy on the noobs? Get real man. I'm all for helping someone learn the game. But I'm not going to use lesser gear to make them feel better.

If people don't stick around then they simply don't like the game and that is CCP's fault really. We all stuck it out through the protostomps to gain SP and earn our protosuits. The noobs can do the same. As the saying goes, HTFU.

Not offence ... but if you need Prototype equipment all the time, YOU ARE THE NOOB. People with skills don't need Proto **** to do well at this game.

This is another way to see it ;

Every time you Proto Stomp a battle you making new players leave, and by doing so you costing CCP money because they losing potential new costumers. Some of us understand this and use only Advanced gear for the benefit of everyone.

But you carry on being salvage... your stats and personal satisfaction is much more important than the game.

+1 for having a point worthy of consideration.
-1 for excessive use of martyr-sauce

There are plenty of reasons to leave this game other than a protostomping; and who's to say that CCP isn't losing CCP money by failing to implement a proper matchmaking system?

In pubs anything above advanced gear is trying pretty hard.

Just saying.

Especially if you aren't playing the intended way and you're in a squad.

And neither do we, but we will happily go on making fun of proto squads in pubs cuz it's like....UFC fighters going all out on a pile of kittens.

It's just sad and funny and mesmerizing all at the same time.

Best Analogy Ever

- Prototype equipment is only for PC, use advanced gear for PUB battles.

Winning a match feels good.

Winning a match going 26-0 feels even better.

I'm telling you this because I don't think you have experienced it, and therefore don't understand why someone would run proto fits in a pub game.

Winning a match feels good.

Winning a match going 26-0 feels even better.

I'm telling you this because I don't think you have experienced it, and therefore don't understand why someone would run proto fits in a pub game.

And neither do we, but we will happily go on making fun of proto squads in pubs cuz it's like....UFC fighters going all out on a pile of kittens.

It's just sad and funny and mesmerizing all at the same time.

When are these proto epeeners going to cut the ego feeding selfish mindset that they are somehow entitled to be better than anyone else?

You are ******* over balance.
You are ******* over new customers to the product.
You are forgetting that not everybody has the time or interest to grind out the best gear in the shortest amount of time.

You are also ignorant of the fact that if I don't yet have full proto gear that I will get to that point at some point. When that happens I still won't agree with that one sided game play.

You so leet? Fight ppl your own strength. I find it boring and pointless to beat up on less powerful or new players to feed my ego. I prefer not to be a p*ssy d*uchebag by justifying the poor matchmaking system for my own amusement.

If your so "skilled" then champion matchmaking that pits you against like skilled/geared players.

Until then you are a self-serving troll that is devolving this game down to an epeen pissing contest.

i find it amusing that ppl send mail or post threads about proto pub stompers.
if you got the isk to use them do so.
i dont see what the deal is anyway what you mad that you die more to the proto then the regular militia fit?
are the proto players supposed to go militia to make you feel better about your scrubness?
get good get a proto and use it thats it. besides the threads are useless a month later because you see the same player a few weeks later using the proto suit with the excuse of "well everyone else does it"
just stop. your waisting space on ther forums with it. worry about real issues like the lag in planetary conquest where the real players who count need the ccp devs assistance. have a nice day.

ill just use my advance vs all of your proto wearing corps

u will remain a pub stomping corp

Posts like this comes across as nothing more than rage and jealousy and holds no argument.

Okay so I'm reading along in this thread, laughing at some things and shaking my head at others. I'll tell you what, I think it's a blast trying to take out someone in proto gear. It's challenging. I run around in a standard or advanced suit, varying on mood, the few proto stuff on me being some links or a few guns. **cough plasmacannon/charge rifle cough**

I get an adrenaline rush when I see glowing red eyes, strafe around, and get him with quite a few shots with a shotgun, or my all time favorite. Standard Gallente Scout with A Toxin (standard as far as I know) assault rifle with a kill on a proto heavy. I earned it, even if he does get me back three times over.

What I am curious about though, is whether or not any of you who do run in proto gear and auto red line, miss the challenge? Not saying that it always works out with an auto red line cuz that's ridiculous. But it's a prime example. When a game stops being challenging for me, it's not worth playing anymore. And this game, at the very least, causes me to cuss in three languages once a day. Tis a fantastic bonus!

Cheer's Y'all, happy hunting and thanks for putting up with my thoughts!

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When I run with the team that has a proto squad in it it is just as boring and one sided as when you are opposite that group. The only time it is fun is when the teams are pretty balanced and there is give and take.

What I am curious about though, is whether or not any of you who do run in proto gear and auto red line, miss the challenge?

Posts like this should come across as concern for game development and balance as a product rather than a narrow-minded view of game play that only serves to inflate one's own ego. Forget what you can do in the game as your make-believe alter ego and worry about how the game works as a product that is going to retain a player base.

I'll make the point again that everyone is going to eventually be in proto level gear. More players will play that are more skilled. The difference is those who justify easy, cheap game play with zero sportsmanship versus playing in the spirit in which the game was designed. Who cares how many pixels you can shoot?

You are exploiting a poorly developed feature and justifying it for lols. What are you going to do when that feature is gone? Complain that you are losing too much despite better game balance and overall enjoyment?

You can go to any poorly developed game and be number one at exploiting the bad game balance. A good game with good balance can be supported by anybody regardless of how good they are at it or if they even play at all.

beld you seem like a groupie. first you send hatemail to one of my members and comment on his thread then u do the same to me.
almost cute if u ask me. say what u need to say i also used proto that match and although your entire side had teamplayers and other good corps in it and ours only had us and all blues who went negative and stayed in the redline while my squad of six made you fight till the last 5 bars of armor i wouldnt talk so much trash because if you were elite as you think you would have redlined this corp of scrubs but sorry for you you couldnt. besides teamplayers carried you in that game if i recall they made tops not you sooo what are you bragging about? being carried? i got an idea for you join one of the elite corps that are better then us then brag about them beating us because it seems like a move you would pull. i also recall your reply in that msg saying lol i know your team was one sided im just pullin your chain remember?

i find it amusing that ppl send mail or post threads about proto pub stompers.
if you got the isk to use them do so.
i dont see what the deal is anyway what you mad that you die more to the proto then the regular militia fit?
are the proto players supposed to go militia to make you feel better about your scrubness?
get good get a proto and use it thats it. besides the threads are useless a month later because you see the same player a few weeks later using the proto suit with the excuse of "well everyone else does it"
just stop. your waisting space on ther forums with it. worry about real issues like the lag in planetary conquest where the real players who count need the ccp devs assistance. have a nice day.

Yeah, you guys shouldn't try to win matches. Winning is for losers.

This is another way to see it ;

Every time you Proto Stomp a battle you making new players leave, and by doing so you costing CCP money because they losing potential new costumers. Some of us understand this and use only Advanced gear for the benefit of everyone.

But you carry on being salvage... your stats and personal satisfaction is much more important than the game.

You went negative I didn't, and it was a team of randoms, the presence of 1 teamplayer does not make a squad of teamplayers and besides I'm mainly pointing out the hypocrisy of your thread when you like to play the "they were using protogear" card yourself to mitigate failure.

And groupie? dunno I just have a very keen dislike of you and your corp after reading you're dickish forum posts then watching you get stomped in pub games every time I see you.

Not offence ... but if you need Prototype equipment all the time, YOU ARE THE NOOB. People with skills don't need Proto **** to do well at this game.

+1 for having a point worthy of consideration.
-1 for excessive use of martyr-sauce

There are plenty of reasons to leave this game other than a protostomping; and who's to say that CCP isn't losing CCP money by failing to implement a proper matchmaking system? I agree with OP. There's other stuff to worry about, besides not everyone quits from getting stomped early in an FPS game career. -plenty of people buckle-down and knuckle-up.

but yes, your point is not lost on me.

lol at +1 but then the -1 awsome bro.
but yea the proto stomping isnt the issue the game mechanics are 80% of why alot of the good players are leaving is because of lag. failure of devs working to keep their promis on the game and stuff like that i think proto stomping is the least of this games issue.

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You went negative I didn't, and it was a team of randoms, the presence of 1 teamplayer does not make a squad of teamplayers and besides I'm mainly pointing out the hypocrisy of your thread when you like to play the "they were using protogear" card yourself to mitigate failure.

And groupie? dunno I just have a very keen dislike of you and your corp after reading you're dickish forum posts then watching you get stomped in pub games every time I see you.

Your corp is more than welcome to show it's interstellar might against us if you're feeling truly up to the task. Otherwise, everything that spews out of your mouth is just words. And in the words of the great Douglas MacArthur (an American General in case you did not know):

"Whoever said the pen is mightier than the sword obviously never encountered automatic weapons.GÇ¥

In pubs anything above advanced gear is trying pretty hard.

Just saying.

Especially if you aren't playing the intended way and you're in a squad.

the real problem is heavies with assault rifles who are seriously compensating for a SERIOUS lack of skill.

If you have to have 1000 armour just to be able to use an AR then you are a scrub.

Also LOL at people who pull out 2+ tanks at a time in pub matches.

People use proto as a crutch more than "they've earned it".

posting the full conversation would make more sence considering i was talking to ultramarines about a clan battle pc match calling them on it. not proto pub stompers sooo your point is invalid and making yourself look stupid.
before you go trying to contradict somones words you should really learn to read a full conversation.
so the jokes on you **** tard.

The only reason this topic is worth a fart is new player experience.

omfg people leave because they choose to not because of proto gear. lmfao
nice try but NO.
they leave because to them this game is just to much to take in or to boring but definetly not the proto stomp.

I stopped playing because the first battle I entered after leaving the academy had me and a bunch of other NPC corp noobish players pitted against 2 full squads of proto pubstompers. There are many others like me.

There is no way any new player can compete with that.

posting the full conversation would make more sence considering i was talking to ultramarines about a clan battle pc match calling them on it. not proto pub stompers sooo your point is invalid and making yourself look stupid.
before you go trying to contradict somones words you should really learn to read a full conversation.
so the jokes on you **** tard.

What is "sence"?

Anyway, I happened to have read the entire conversation.

These comments were not actually taken out of context as you claim because in these statements you were not actually talking about PC, you were insulting the Ultramarines and talking about how the they were a bunch of pubstompers.

By the way, how can they be "pubstompers" if they lose 90% of their matches? This seems very contradictory, just saying.

Moving on, a couple comments later you claimed that you would be able to stomp full proto squads of Ultramarines while using advanced gear. The general flow of the conversation leads the reader to the conclusion that you were in fact claiming this would occur in pubs or FW.

This I would like to see lol.

Later in the thread you did attempt to goad Ultramarines into attacking your district, but the entirety of the conversation was definitely not about "a clan battle pc match calling them on it".

Do you have to try hard to make yourself look like an idiot, or does it come naturally? Are you even aware that you do?

there is. its called playing more till you get better.
and no i understand where you are coming from tho but really is it the players fault? or the devs fault for 1. dumping loads of no skilled players into the pits without experience 2.not making a tier 1. tier 2. and tier 3. player ques for players can face their skill of players? ppl will wear there suits because they earned them. do you think the thought of someone saying "your trash because you use proto" matters?
no it doesnt. weather it was easy or hard to pull 40 & 0 it doesnt matter. ppl will use what they have because they want to.
same way on eve if i go off in space to mine or goof off in space anyone is entitled to cannon blast you and pod you.
its a cutthroat style of game. adapt or die.

invalid... for 2 reasons. 1 your using an alt no balls.
2. reported for personal attacks nub.

In the current state of the game, yes it is the players' fault directly. Players know when they are facing off against n00bs, but most of you "vets" will throw on full proto for the laughs. Sure it may be entertaining, but it is not conducive to the long term health of the game. Most console players simply won't play if it isn't fun. Getting stomped like this in every match you play for months is simply not fun.

DUST may be part of New Eden, but it is not comparable to EVE. In EVE, new players have many different options to choose from. There is a vast free roam world, with different securities. While one may choose to venture out in Nulsec, you aren't forced to go there, ever. In EVE n00bs have the ability to warp away if things start looking grim.

In DUST, you have 16 vs 16 in fairly small combat zones. you can't choose your opponent, unless doing PC, which you need Proto to compete in anyway. Then, once in one of these pubstomp matches you either quit or lose, either way you take a loss, whether it is in ISK, or stats.

Protostomping is bad, yes, you should feel bad.

There is much more n00b forgiveness in EVE than DUST.

If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, as they say.

heat? lol your using an alt and im the one who cant stand the heat. your hiding and using an alt for 2 reason being banned or simply scared to post it under your real name.
but hey new eden is also full of those kind of ppl.

ADAPT OR DIE.

dont try and make yourself look good there was 3 teamplayers and another corp on your side. we only had us. and still you had so much trouble even holding 3 letters lol you make me laugh with your diva attitude. your hate for us only makes us know we are doing our job. grow up some kid will you.

heat? lol your using an alt and im the one who cant stand the heat. your hiding and using an alt for 2 reason being banned or simply scared to post it under your real name.
but hey new eden is also full of those kind of ppl.

Sorry anon im laughing st you now reported for personal attacks hahahagaga you just got caught out bullshitting and going against yiur own words lol your now officially a joke lofingl.

This aint earth your guilty untill you prove yourself inosent... so yip still a joke ......hahahahahahahaha.

I use proto suits because otherwise people would cry and accuse me of cheating when i murder them with militia gear...

im not bigging myself up AT ALL

HTFU!

Anon you have yet to link your evidence ...... you just dont want anyone else to see it...hoho .

Reports people out for perceived personal attacks.

lol

wasnt bigging myself either. was just stating that if the wallet is there and skill points where used why not run proto?
whats so bad about it?
people complain about proto pub stomp then you get groupies who agree with ppl who complain but then u see them using it as well. lol smh

Anon you have yet to link your evidence ...... you just dont want anyone else to see it...hoho .

you seem like you feel some type of way.

I linked the original convo. It's right there for all to see. I have no reason to lie about it.

ANON is salty because he made himself out to look like a foolish hypocrite.

I do feel some type of way...

#entertained

they got bandaids for open sores.

Ah yes, the common sentiment among those who rely on tens of millions of SP worth of passive skills and proto gear to be able to win in pubs. LOL

So, tell me, how exactly does one "ADAPT OR DIE" in DUST?

Should I just AFK my way to 20 mil SP, or just let my character sit on passive SP for a year?

do what you think is best but the 20 plus million sp ive earned is put to use very well. i dont just win pubs either. nor do i care if i win or lose the topic want about winning or losing. you dont like faction warfare then there is public matches or you can create new characters everytime you reach your 1200 wp max to stay in acadamy

deal with it or leave cod seems to be a game for you.

Personally it is pretty funny watching folks call themselves important players because they're doing pc. That got a lollerskate from me dude, right on with the self righteousness. But yeah, crying about proto is funny. When I feel the QQ building up because golly gee my butt hurts from all the proto's butt-fisting me...I go...well gee...I'm sucking...then I put down my exoslashadvsuit.com and I load up my Protolollerskatesfreedom.jpg and i bellow "This is why we can't have nice things!" as I merrily begin unloading a massive ton of extremely ridiculously wide area of effect splash damage on all those pretty black suits and I make them go splat.



...then I get shotgunned from behind and I QQ some more cause my butt hurts again

pointing me out would be posting a full conversation starting with the ultramarines comment you made.
and you do care because if you didnt you wouldnt continue to argue about it. your here trying to prove another mans point.
you his girl?
then when i report you you mention it like 3 or 4 times now its idgaf... classic BUMP sitting here waiting time isnt building your sp friend.
go grind out some pubs to make you a beast SON.

morted lol so so cute how you ride the man.
im sure he can speak for himself.

but where does your corp stand? ive never seen you
EVER.
so let me ask you this-
you skilled into proto gear right?
im sure you did but your not in planetary conquest-right?
really doesnt matter. but since you dont use proto in pubs why did you skill into it?
me and beld talk trash to eachother so what competiton is trash talk we both know the skill we have and played vs eachother his team was better then ours as we only had 1 squad.
they had many more players working together so yes it was 16 vs 6 and to bring his team to the last few bars of armor says more then what your saying now.
write a paragraph about what your corp is doing.

i am not in planetary conquest no i went to it and left my first corp as they had no intention of doing it..and looked for a place amoung the current elite...at fist i was in the pfbhz and then i was in impswarm..went to internal error and considered my self happily a part of negative feedback...for some reason my old corp wsg had a tendencie to run into the imperfects in closed beta and the left a solid impression on me..this was before when zitro and nynjanomix and alldin kan all tanked and i had ...adv nades and proto swarm ona logi v.k0 and the charybdis...they were the best hunt..and they were the only challenging kills for me other than duna and try harder. i am not a part of pc because most of the people i would play with are in teamplayers or eon. i have no interest really in learning to play with new people and i have no tolerance for weaker players than myself i will not be a part of a corp if i am near the top players....the only corps i could be in then are either eon...or foreign that i am aware of..and while i do play eu afternoon times on est cost server. i do not know of which eu corps i could compare to teamplayer..very few veteran corps have high lines on recruitment...it is a sore spot for me. since neg collapsed i have found no real home that is pc-able. so i stay with my friend psycho because their are remains of neg in his corp. i have been playing dust to long to be a try hard..i enjoy fighting people i know..and any one else im generally not even paying attention. ..so is that enough of an explanation i have no interest in pc because my corp is gone and merged with eon and i am not with them ..so i pub harvest..maybe one day i will find a place..that is structured ..but for now..i am stocking and waiting..and like i said i only go after certain people with good gear..i actually have suits built just for scrubs i have no respect for lol.

if i come after you in proto gear its not because i am proto stomping ..it because i respect your gaming ability.(note by proto i mean 100% proto) (not proto weapon on non proto suit i do that all the time) for pubs i run stnd maybe adv ..no one can call me a proto stomping vet..i dont run mlt because i get acussed of cheating allot..i get like 4 msgs a day about my syndicate smg lolz and the same for my stnd md

i find it amusing that ppl send mail or post threads about proto pub stompers.
if you got the isk to use them do so.
i dont see what the deal is anyway what you mad that you die more to the proto then the regular militia fit?
are the proto players supposed to go militia to make you feel better about your scrubness?
get good get a proto and use it thats it. besides the threads are useless a month later because you see the same player a few weeks later using the proto suit with the excuse of "well everyone else does it"
just stop. your waisting space on ther forums with it. worry about real issues like the lag in planetary conquest where the real players who count need the ccp devs assistance. have a nice day.

They limit fittings in this game to 30. With enough skills spread about, it's difficult to have a large set of PRO-quality fits, ADV-quality fits, and lower quality because you straight-up run out of space.

I experienced the fitting limit even when I hadn't skilled into suits. It was easy enough to have a fast scout fit, some regular assault fits, some AV fits, a cheap forge gun fit, and some logistics fits... and just run out of space.

Once you've skilled into a few weapons and/or suits, it gets worse. It's kinda surprising they haven't already fixed or addressed this, since at least one of the CCP staff that plays has gone "generalist" and is leveling up everything. To actually use all the stuff they skill into would easily make them run out of fitting space.

As a practical matter, unless you have a very narrow set of fits, if you've got various PRO-quality fits then you may not have space to have many really cheap fits for pubs.

There are threads about this in Feedback, but CCP already took note of it in a weekly roundup I think. When we might get it is anyone's guess.

If sounds like you need to hop in a squad and ask your squad mates to fill some roles. I've never had more than 10 fits. Sometimes less is more.

I don't know what "waisting" is, but it sounds dirty

Also the "get good and get proto suits" argument is moot. There's nothing skill full about accumulating a massive amount of skill points, it's all about time.

That is all I really got to say about that, not arguing one way or the other.

EDIT: Well, I guess I'd also like to say something in regards to that last bit in the OP. Participating on Planetary Conquest doesn't make you any more of a "real" player than anyone else here. Congratulations, you've earned control of some random district in a garbage region of New Eden! Would you like a cookie?

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Sooooooooooo you're saying instead of enjoying the versatility of multiple roles you would rather rely on other people. I bet you're one of those people who complains non stop about tanks but can't be bothered to make a cheap forge gun fit... I wish people would stop making excuses for CCP. There should be more than 30 fittings allowed. Period. No excuses.

he plays with a squad all the time so he has no reason to complain because one of his squad mates will take care of the tank for him

There is all kinds of fun to be had in this game and limiting your role is pointless. I focus my SP on my logibro. But I still have a cheap sniper/forge/scout/whatever. Because this is a video game. And it's fun. I would of quit already if I had to run the same **** all the time....

My fun sounds more fun than your fun. lol

I agree with the overall point, just not the attitude accompanying it!
A lot of noobs don't understand the trials and tribulations required to be able to run proto 24/7, some don't even realise they can get it to!

Just shrug 'em off, while im here though illuminati, stop whinimg at people whining, its childish and idiotic!
You wanna solve the problem, adopt a noob, like a mentorship or tutorage, knowledge is power, give some to the noobs!

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Sooooooooooo you're saying instead of enjoying the versatility of multiple roles you would rather rely on other people. I bet you're one of those people who complains non stop about tanks but can't be bothered to make a cheap forge gun fit... I wish people would stop making excuses for CCP. There should be more than 30 fittings allowed. Period. No excuses.

Winning a match feels good.

Winning a match going 26-0 feels even better.

I'm telling you this because I don't think you have experienced it, and therefore don't understand why someone would run proto fits in a pub game.

proto bears r why ppl r y going into sniping..


because the forge gun works well against them...

its also the cause of why the free default lav was removed.

and the cause of a lot of other problems..


hey its like the governement currently...



every one is blaming every1 else like idiots!.

They limit fittings in this game to 30. With enough skills spread about, it's difficult to have a large set of PRO-quality fits, ADV-quality fits, and lower quality because you straight-up run out of space.

I experienced the fitting limit even when I hadn't skilled into suits. It was easy enough to have a fast scout fit, some regular assault fits, some AV fits, a cheap forge gun fit, and some logistics fits... and just run out of space.

Once you've skilled into a few weapons and/or suits, it gets worse. It's kinda surprising they haven't already fixed or addressed this, since at least one of the CCP staff that plays has gone "generalist" and is leveling up everything. To actually use all the stuff they skill into would easily make them run out of fitting space.

As a practical matter, unless you have a very narrow set of fits, if you've got various PRO-quality fits then you may not have space to have many really cheap fits for pubs.

There are threads about this in Feedback, but CCP already took note of it in a weekly roundup I think. When we might get it is anyone's guess.

I posted links to the convo, which would clearly back up everything I stated to any who care to go read it for themselves.

I really don't care. Honestly.

How am I trying to prove another man's point? All I was doing was pointing out the hypocrisy in your OP by quoting comments you made contradicting yourself in another one of your threads, which I provided links to.

Maybe I am his girl . How does it make you feel to be not only proven a hypocrite, but trolled by a girl?

It was always idgaf, not my fault you can't tell when you're being trolled...

wow, you're so gangster SON.

i am not in planetary conquest no i went to it and left my first corp as they had no intention of doing it..and looked for a place amoung the current elite...at fist i was in the pfbhz and then i was in impswarm..went to internal error and considered my self happily a part of negative feedback...for some reason my old corp wsg had a tendencie to run into the imperfects in closed beta and the left a solid impression on me..this was before when zitro and nynjanomix and alldin kan all tanked and i had ...adv nades and proto swarm ona logi v.k0 and the charybdis...they were the best hunt..and they were the only challenging kills for me other than duna and try harder. i am not a part of pc because most of the people i would play with are in teamplayers or eon. i have no interest really in learning to play with new people and i have no tolerance for weaker players than myself i will not be a part of a corp if i am near the top players....the only corps i could be in then are either eon...or foreign that i am aware of..and while i do play eu afternoon times on est cost server. i do not know of which eu corps i could compare to teamplayer..very few veteran corps have high lines on recruitment...it is a sore spot for me. since neg collapsed i have found no real home that is pc-able. so i stay with my friend psycho because their are remains of neg in his corp. i have been playing dust to long to be a try hard..i enjoy fighting people i know..and any one else im generally not even paying attention. ..so is that enough of an explanation i have no interest in pc because my corp is gone and merged with eon and i am not with them ..so i pub harvest..maybe one day i will find a place..that is structured ..but for now..i am stocking and waiting..and like i said i only go after certain people with good gear..i actually have suits built just for scrubs i have no respect for lol.

if i come after you in proto gear its not because i am proto stomping ..it because i respect your gaming ability.(note by proto i mean 100% proto) (not proto weapon on non proto suit i do that all the time) for pubs i run stnd maybe adv ..no one can call me a proto stomping vet..i dont run mlt because i get acussed of cheating allot..i get like 4 msgs a day about my syndicate smg lolz and the same for my stnd md

People still complain about a game mechanic that someone earned through time invested which doubles as a goal for newer players to achieve? What's the world coming to?

I agree with you but that doesn't mean we got to like your for it :P
I've seen many times on the battlefield where a proto pub stomping team would lose to a bunch of randoms so it's not always one sided like everyone claims though it is pretty funny to see
I've fought you on many occasions and would fight you again anyday it's more challenging to fight proto or at least good players cause even if I am fighting a team of proto players I'll give them hell before I die

I agree with the overall point, just not the attitude accompanying it!
A lot of noobs don't understand the trials and tribulations required to be able to run proto 24/7, some don't even realise they can get it to!

Just shrug 'em off, while im here though illuminati, stop whinimg at people whining, its childish and idiotic!
You wanna solve the problem, adopt a noob, like a mentorship or tutorage, knowledge is power, give some to the noobs!

You obviously don't know Anon, He has spent a lot of time taking newberries and turning them into killing machines.

People can't assume they will jump on a FPS that is also branded an MMO and assume they will start killing the top level people's...

No lvl 10 in a MMO think's they are gonna take on a lvl 90 and do well.. With that mentality steel sharpens steel, the harder the competition with the better gear and you get decent result's? Well your personal skill only get's better everyday... and your situational awareness get's a work out like no one's business.

it seems to havegotten your attention enough to post on it so obviously it was worth something snuk'ems

Yeah, did I mention new player experience as the reason or did you miss that part Mancy?

and to be honest the proto suits arent even that good last night in my alt to where im all tanker and have absolutly no skill whats so ever went 22 & 1 in all militia gear the suits arent the problem
its the players who all want to start off killers and dont want to put in the time to be great or solid players.
i do just fine in militia, & advanced suits are my main choice of suits.
i use proto as stated before but vs solid competition
or if i cannot kill someone in my advance.
but do i rage? no ask any anonymous player or anyone who squads with me alot and they too will tell you i use advanced suits 90% of the time. but the point to the threat is why complain about it? one day you will have one and enjoy your days of pro stomping.
till then you just gotta deal with getting that ass busted.

and to be honest the proto suits arent even that good last night in my alt to where im all tanker and have absolutly no skill whats so ever went 22 & 1 in all militia gear the suits arent the problem
its the players who all want to start off killers and dont want to put in the time to be great or solid players.
i do just fine in militia, & advanced suits are my main choice of suits.
i use proto as stated before but vs solid competition
or if i cannot kill someone in my advance.
but do i rage? no ask any anonymous player or anyone who squads with me alot and they too will tell you i use advanced suits 90% of the time. but the point to the threat is why complain about it? one day you will have one and enjoy your days of pro stomping.
till then you just gotta deal with getting that ass busted.

i wont train snipers

Great initiative! But out of curiousity: why wouldn't you train snipers?

most dont have a mic and it makes it pointless to carry one who cannot recon the field for his/her team.
when i was a sniper in bf3 i not only played the part i also called out enemy infantry i couldnt pick off.
which made my team aware of what was coming and how to prepare. most snipers in this game dont use mics and wont bother to communicate all they play for is there kdr.

thats not true I snipe most the time and I'm always taking out uplinks nono hives and the dam logis reviving people plus protecting the objectives i'm not in it for the KDR

thats not true I snipe most the time and I'm always taking out uplinks nono hives and the dam logis reviving people plus protecting the objectives i'm not in it for the KDR

i find it amusing that ppl send mail or post threads about proto pub stompers.
if you got the isk to use them do so.
i dont see what the deal is anyway what you mad that you die more to the proto then the regular militia fit?
are the proto players supposed to go militia to make you feel better about your scrubness?
get good get a proto and use it thats it. besides the threads are useless a month later because you see the same player a few weeks later using the proto suit with the excuse of "well everyone else does it"
just stop. your waisting space on ther forums with it. worry about real issues like the lag in planetary conquest where the real players who count need the ccp devs assistance. have a nice day.

and well if this is so then ur a good sniper but lets be foreal only a few do this properly not many who do.
but kudos to u for being that guy i respect that alot./

im willing to teach noobs how to play and whats basic for all suits core skills and how to use the battlefield to their advantage.
they just dont know bethyy.

I want a thread on, Proto stomper (me) vs Proto stompers(people who don't like me)

I don't need your charity, thank you, I just need a squad!
If the case is your teaching people, stop whining!

If you need help with training the assaults, let me know. I will add the channel to my list just in case.

thats not true I snipe most the time and I'm always taking out uplinks nono hives and the dam logis reviving people plus protecting the objectives i'm not in it for the KDR

word this will help 2 vets anyone else up for the job?
and anyone else wanting to learn from closed beta scrubs like us?
lol

The thing is your a sniper, and that carry's a bad name, ppl will always jump on the redline/KDR *****-in aspect,.
Those of us like yourself that don't care about KDR and do what you do, don't often get recognized.

ANON Illuminati I like that your willing to train new people but, don't push guys like this out due to the class they want to play.

but heres another fact.
Teamwork gets you alot of wins and if your a blueberrie losing alot try working together.
no reason to have 7 to 9 snipers in one match this is also another game known problem.
not the players who kill these guys join a game and instantly head for mountains and or tall towers with no intention to play as a team.