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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:02:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:The only reason this topic is worth a fart is new player experience. it seems to havegotten your attention enough to post on it so obviously it was worth something snuk'ems
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Shikabane Ouji
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:18:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:This is another way to see it ;
Every time you Proto Stomp a battle you making new players leave, and by doing so you costing CCP money because they losing potential new costumers. Some of us understand this and use only Advanced gear for the benefit of everyone.
But you carry on being salvage... your stats and personal satisfaction is much more important than the game. omfg people leave because they choose to not because of proto gear. lmfao nice try but NO. they leave because to them this game is just to much to take in or to boring but definetly not the proto stomp. I stopped playing because the first battle I entered after leaving the academy had me and a bunch of other NPC corp noobish players pitted against 2 full squads of proto pubstompers. There are many others like me.
There is no way any new player can compete with that. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:31:00 -
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Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:This is another way to see it ;
Every time you Proto Stomp a battle you making new players leave, and by doing so you costing CCP money because they losing potential new costumers. Some of us understand this and use only Advanced gear for the benefit of everyone.
But you carry on being salvage... your stats and personal satisfaction is much more important than the game. omfg people leave because they choose to not because of proto gear. lmfao nice try but NO. they leave because to them this game is just to much to take in or to boring but definetly not the proto stomp. I stopped playing because the first battle I entered after leaving the academy had me and a bunch of other NPC corp noobish players pitted against 2 full squads of proto pubstompers. There are many others like me. There is no way any new player can compete with that.
there is. its called playing more till you get better. and no i understand where you are coming from tho but really is it the players fault? or the devs fault for 1. dumping loads of no skilled players into the pits without experience 2.not making a tier 1. tier 2. and tier 3. player ques for players can face their skill of players? ppl will wear there suits because they earned them. do you think the thought of someone saying "your trash because you use proto" matters? no it doesnt. weather it was easy or hard to pull 40 & 0 it doesnt matter. ppl will use what they have because they want to. same way on eve if i go off in space to mine or goof off in space anyone is entitled to cannon blast you and pod you. its a cutthroat style of game. adapt or die. |
Shikabane Ouji
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:34:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:
posting the full conversation would make more sence considering i was talking to ultramarines about a clan battle pc match calling them on it. not proto pub stompers sooo your point is invalid and making yourself look stupid. before you go trying to contradict somones words you should really learn to read a full conversation. so the jokes on you **** tard.
What is "sence"?
Anyway, I happened to have read the entire conversation.
These comments were not actually taken out of context as you claim because in these statements you were not actually talking about PC, you were insulting the Ultramarines and talking about how the they were a bunch of pubstompers.
By the way, how can they be "pubstompers" if they lose 90% of their matches? This seems very contradictory, just saying.
Moving on, a couple comments later you claimed that you would be able to stomp full proto squads of Ultramarines while using advanced gear. The general flow of the conversation leads the reader to the conclusion that you were in fact claiming this would occur in pubs or FW.
This I would like to see lol.
Later in the thread you did attempt to goad Ultramarines into attacking your district, but the entirety of the conversation was definitely not about "a clan battle pc match calling them on it".
Do you have to try hard to make yourself look like an idiot, or does it come naturally? Are you even aware that you do? |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:37:00 -
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Ill say this again as iv said it in many other threads. CCP originally said that proto equipment should not be sustainable from pub games. This was true back in chrome when fully specked proto suits cost round the 1 mill mark. (Both my vk0 and vk1 heavy suits with proto mods and wepons used to cost just over 1 mill isk.) If the proto prices were returned to that of crome we would only see the occasional proto stomp as allot of these proto bears would run out of isk or proto suits eventually. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:48:00 -
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Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:
posting the full conversation would make more sence considering i was talking to ultramarines about a clan battle pc match calling them on it. not proto pub stompers sooo your point is invalid and making yourself look stupid. before you go trying to contradict somones words you should really learn to read a full conversation. so the jokes on you **** tard.
What is "sence"? Anyway, I happened to have read the entire conversation. These comments were not actually taken out of context as you claim because in these statements you were not actually talking about PC, you were insulting the Ultramarines and talking about how the they were a bunch of pubstompers. By the way, how can they be "pubstompers" if they lose 90% of their matches? This seems very contradictory, just saying. Moving on, a couple comments later you claimed that you would be able to stomp full proto squads of Ultramarines while using advanced gear. The general flow of the conversation leads the reader to the conclusion that you were in fact claiming this would occur in pubs or FW. This I would like to see lol. Later in the thread you did attempt to goad Ultramarines into attacking your district, but the entirety of the conversation was definitely not about "a clan battle pc match calling them on it". Do you have to try hard to make yourself look like an idiot, or does it come naturally? Are you even aware that you do?
invalid... for 2 reasons. 1 your using an alt no balls. 2. reported for personal attacks nub. |
Shikabane Ouji
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:49:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:This is another way to see it ;
Every time you Proto Stomp a battle you making new players leave, and by doing so you costing CCP money because they losing potential new costumers. Some of us understand this and use only Advanced gear for the benefit of everyone.
But you carry on being salvage... your stats and personal satisfaction is much more important than the game. omfg people leave because they choose to not because of proto gear. lmfao nice try but NO. they leave because to them this game is just to much to take in or to boring but definetly not the proto stomp. I stopped playing because the first battle I entered after leaving the academy had me and a bunch of other NPC corp noobish players pitted against 2 full squads of proto pubstompers. There are many others like me. There is no way any new player can compete with that. there is. its called playing more till you get better. and no i understand where you are coming from tho but really is it the players fault? or the devs fault for 1. dumping loads of no skilled players into the pits without experience 2.not making a tier 1. tier 2. and tier 3. player ques for players can face their skill of players? ppl will wear there suits because they earned them. do you think the thought of someone saying "your trash because you use proto" matters? no it doesnt. weather it was easy or hard to pull 40 & 0 it doesnt matter. ppl will use what they have because they want to. same way on eve if i go off in space to mine or goof off in space anyone is entitled to cannon blast you and pod you. its a cutthroat style of game. adapt or die. In the current state of the game, yes it is the players' fault directly. Players know when they are facing off against n00bs, but most of you "vets" will throw on full proto for the laughs. Sure it may be entertaining, but it is not conducive to the long term health of the game. Most console players simply won't play if it isn't fun. Getting stomped like this in every match you play for months is simply not fun.
DUST may be part of New Eden, but it is not comparable to EVE. In EVE, new players have many different options to choose from. There is a vast free roam world, with different securities. While one may choose to venture out in Nulsec, you aren't forced to go there, ever. In EVE n00bs have the ability to warp away if things start looking grim.
In DUST, you have 16 vs 16 in fairly small combat zones. you can't choose your opponent, unless doing PC, which you need Proto to compete in anyway. Then, once in one of these pubstomp matches you either quit or lose, either way you take a loss, whether it is in ISK, or stats.
Protostomping is bad, yes, you should feel bad.
There is much more n00b forgiveness in EVE than DUST. |
Shikabane Ouji
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:51:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote: invalid... for 2 reasons. 1 your using an alt no balls. 2. reported for personal attacks nub.
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, as they say. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:53:00 -
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Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Banning Hammer wrote:This is another way to see it ;
Every time you Proto Stomp a battle you making new players leave, and by doing so you costing CCP money because they losing potential new costumers. Some of us understand this and use only Advanced gear for the benefit of everyone.
But you carry on being salvage... your stats and personal satisfaction is much more important than the game. omfg people leave because they choose to not because of proto gear. lmfao nice try but NO. they leave because to them this game is just to much to take in or to boring but definetly not the proto stomp. I stopped playing because the first battle I entered after leaving the academy had me and a bunch of other NPC corp noobish players pitted against 2 full squads of proto pubstompers. There are many others like me. There is no way any new player can compete with that. there is. its called playing more till you get better. and no i understand where you are coming from tho but really is it the players fault? or the devs fault for 1. dumping loads of no skilled players into the pits without experience 2.not making a tier 1. tier 2. and tier 3. player ques for players can face their skill of players? ppl will wear there suits because they earned them. do you think the thought of someone saying "your trash because you use proto" matters? no it doesnt. weather it was easy or hard to pull 40 & 0 it doesnt matter. ppl will use what they have because they want to. same way on eve if i go off in space to mine or goof off in space anyone is entitled to cannon blast you and pod you. its a cutthroat style of game. adapt or die. In the current state of the game, yes it is the players' fault directly. Players know when they are facing off against n00bs, but most of you "vets" will throw on full proto for the laughs. Sure it may be entertaining, but it is not conducive to the long term health of the game. Most console players simply won't play if it isn't fun. Getting stomped like this in every match you play for months is simply not fun. DUST may be part of New Eden, but it is not comparable to EVE. In EVE, new players have many different options to choose from. There is a vast free roam world, with different securities. While one may choose to venture out in Nulsec, you aren't forced to go there, ever. In EVE n00bs have the ability to warp away if things start looking grim. In DUST, you have 16 vs 16 in fairly small combat zones. you can't choose your opponent, unless doing PC, which you need Proto to compete in anyway. Then, once in one of these pubstomp matches you either quit or lose, either way you take a loss, whether it is in ISK, or stats. Protostomping is bad, yes, you should feel bad. There is much more n00b forgiveness in EVE than DUST.
sorry you feel its bad but to be honest nobody cares proto suits are made to be used. ccp shoulda thought of the outcome. not the players fault. if people want to quit the game for it then so be it maybe this isnt the game for them if they quit that fast for one reason they wouldnt of stayed long after updates and or possible future nerfs. so still nobody cares. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 10:56:00 -
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Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote: invalid... for 2 reasons. 1 your using an alt no balls. 2. reported for personal attacks nub.
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, as they say.
heat? lol your using an alt and im the one who cant stand the heat. your hiding and using an alt for 2 reason being banned or simply scared to post it under your real name. but hey new eden is also full of those kind of ppl.
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Shikabane Ouji
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:03:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote: invalid... for 2 reasons. 1 your using an alt no balls. 2. reported for personal attacks nub.
If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, as they say. heat? lol your using an alt and im the one who cant stand the heat. your hiding and using an alt for 2 reason being banned or simply scared to post it under your real name. but hey new eden is also full of those kind of ppl. Yes, heat. I proved you wrong, and you got salty because of it. Then you reported me for "personal attacks" lol. How exactly did I attack you personally?
I only stated that you "make yourself look like an idiot". I didn't actually call you an idiot, or attack you in any way. The fact that you took offense at this statement only proves it's validity.
Anyway, what makes you think I'm an alt? |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:03:00 -
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ADAPT OR DIE.
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Shikabane Ouji
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:07:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:ADAPT OR DIE.
Ah yes, the common sentiment among those who rely on tens of millions of SP worth of passive skills and proto gear to be able to win in pubs. LOL
So, tell me, how exactly does one "ADAPT OR DIE" in DUST?
Should I just AFK my way to 20 mil SP, or just let my character sit on passive SP for a year? |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1139
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:09:00 -
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Sorry anon im laughing st you now reported for personal attacks hahahagaga you just got caught out bullshitting and going against yiur own words lol your now officially a joke lofingl. |
Mortedeamor
Internal Rebellion
382
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:10:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Beld Errmon wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:i find it amusing that ppl send mail or post threads about proto pub stompers. if you got the isk to use them do so. i dont see what the deal is anyway what you mad that you die more to the proto then the regular militia fit? are the proto players supposed to go militia to make you feel better about your scrubness? get good get a proto and use it thats it. besides the threads are useless a month later because you see the same player a few weeks later using the proto suit with the excuse of "well everyone else does it" just stop. your waisting space on ther forums with it. worry about real issues like the lag in planetary conquest where the real players who count need the ccp devs assistance. have a nice day. Its funny how a corp of scrubs called anonymous spend so much of their time on the forums telling ppl what they should post or think, seems almost fascist, didn't your reply to a mail i sent you regarding your squad losing to a team of randoms include a whine about "using protogear" The lady doth protest too much, methinks. beld you seem like a groupie. first you send hatemail to one of my members and comment on his thread then u do the same to me. almost cute if u ask me. say what u need to say i also used proto that match and although your entire side had teamplayers and other good corps in it and ours only had us and all blues who went negative and stayed in the redline while my squad of six made you fight till the last 5 bars of armor i wouldnt talk so much trash because if you were elite as you think you would have redlined this corp of scrubs but sorry for you you couldnt. besides teamplayers carried you in that game if i recall they made tops not you sooo what are you bragging about? being carried? i got an idea for you join one of the elite corps that are better then us then brag about them beating us because it seems like a move you would pull. i also recall your reply in that msg saying lol i know your team was one sided im just pullin your chain remember? You went negative I didn't, and it was a team of randoms, the presence of 1 teamplayer does not make a squad of teamplayers and besides I'm mainly pointing out the hypocrisy of your thread when you like to play the "they were using protogear" card yourself to mitigate failure. And groupie? dunno I just have a very keen dislike of you and your corp after reading you're dickish forum posts then watching you get stomped in pub games every time I see you. dont try and make yourself look good there was 3 teamplayers and another corp on your side. we only had us. and still you had so much trouble even holding 3 letters lol you make me laugh with your diva attitude. your hate for us only makes us know we are doing our job. grow up some kid will you. which teamplayers? 3 teamplayers does not mean the match is over anon just that they're are people in the match that are actually fun to kill....you wanna know the only time i pull my best **** ina pub..when i see teamplayers...(well will be again now that ive recovered from ccp bankrupting my character) i would only be concerned by a select few.
.and they're are several people in teamplayers that count as the BEST fight of their class in dust..no FORGE could have more fun than dueling with alldin kan lol still my yummiest time in dust. and i think reg is widely confirmed as one of if not THE deadliest slayer..so i can understand if your scores were low because you were testing yourself vs the specc vs specs...ive died quiet a bit in closed beta just because i loved to chase alldin kans old tanks around.
and teamplayers besides their base gungame the reason they win is in their name...so you should look at it like this...they're were 3 team players..running together...you were in a full squad? ..they better not have won the match without dieing..i may die a few times but i would make sure to kill them a few as well. TEAMPLAYERS is only an excuse if you dont have the gear to compete..and even then...a mlt grenade can kill a proto suit so can a mlt forge..sniper? what did you do see the name and give up..common
they are the only people in dust that you can guarantee kill u with gun game gear and teamwork all of the 3 evils of dust lol
and they are no AE or mottanii japan running around melee glitching and speed firing md's and runing with modded kin cats
..if beld ran solid so should have you..he is a vet and you claim to be the same dont go insulting beld he was once one of the best tankers in dust 514 it is not his fault ccp ruined that and he is still a force to be reckoned with.
the fact is other than you forum warrioring i have not seen much from your corp..i have seen a few matches where yall did well but they were pubs. ....beld was in negative feedback his pc exp and dust exp over all most likely trumps every member in your corp. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:10:00 -
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Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote:Shikabane Ouji wrote:[quote=ANON Illuminati] invalid... for 2 reasons. 1 your using an alt no balls. 2. reported for personal attacks nub. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, as they say. heat? lol your using an alt and im the one who cant stand the heat. your hiding and using an alt for 2 reason being banned or simply scared to post it under your real name. but hey new eden is also full of those kind of ppl. Yes, heat. I proved you wrong, and you got salty because of it. Then you reported me for "personal attacks" lol. How exactly did I attack you personally?
I only stated that you "make yourself look like an idiot". I didn't actually call you an idiot, or attack you in any way. The fact that you took offense at this statement only proves it's validity.
Anyway, what makes you think I'm an alt?[/quote
ok im salty. got no time to back and forth with you. regardless of what you think you may have accomplished. reported either way personal attacks and an alt. lol cute if you ask me.
back to the topic you dont like proto gear being used against you become a video game designer then call shots on whats fair. fact is its in the game and will be used. you crying and complaining about it doesnt and wont change it. i got well over half a billion and will use proto if i feel the need too and will not hate someone for it. |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:12:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Sorry anon im laughing st you now reported for personal attacks hahahagaga you just got caught out bullshitting and going against yiur own words lol your now officially a joke lofingl.
how? post the full conversation then call me out otherwise chopping parts from a conversation to prove your own point is invalid.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
1139
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:15:00 -
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This aint earth your guilty untill you prove yourself inosent... so yip still a joke ......hahahahahahahaha. |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:18:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:This aint earth your guilty untill you prove yourself inosent... so yip still a joke ......hahahahahahahaha.
meh BUMP.
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1371
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:20:00 -
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I use proto suits because otherwise people would cry and accuse me of cheating when i murder them with militia gear...
im not bigging myself up AT ALL |
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ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:23:00 -
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morted lol so so cute how you ride the man. im sure he can speak for himself.
but where does your corp stand? ive never seen you EVER. so let me ask you this- you skilled into proto gear right? im sure you did but your not in planetary conquest-right? really doesnt matter. but since you dont use proto in pubs why did you skill into it? me and beld talk trash to eachother so what competiton is trash talk we both know the skill we have and played vs eachother his team was better then ours as we only had 1 squad. they had many more players working together so yes it was 16 vs 6 and to bring his team to the last few bars of armor says more then what your saying now. write a paragraph about what your corp is doing.
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pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:25:00 -
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Anon you have yet to link your evidence ...... you just dont want anyone else to see it...hoho . |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:26:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:I use proto suits because otherwise people would cry and accuse me of cheating when i murder them with militia gear...
im not bigging myself up AT ALL
wasnt bigging myself either. was just stating that if the wallet is there and skill points where used why not run proto? whats so bad about it? people complain about proto pub stomp then you get groupies who agree with ppl who complain but then u see them using it as well. lol smh
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Shikabane Ouji
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:28:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote: HTFU!
Reports people out for perceived personal attacks.
lol |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:28:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Anon you have yet to link your evidence ...... you just dont want anyone else to see it...hoho .
BUMP |
ANON Illuminati
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:29:00 -
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Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote: HTFU!
Reports people out for perceived personal attacks. lol
you seem like you feel some type of way.
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ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1371
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:30:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:ChromeBreaker wrote:I use proto suits because otherwise people would cry and accuse me of cheating when i murder them with militia gear...
im not bigging myself up AT ALL wasnt bigging myself either. was just stating that if the wallet is there and skill points where used why not run proto? whats so bad about it? people complain about proto pub stomp then you get groupies who agree with ppl who complain but then u see them using it as well. lol smh
... was actually talking about myself... but ok
Also the directors look more kindly on prot for PC... |
Shikabane Ouji
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:30:00 -
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pegasis prime wrote:Anon you have yet to link your evidence ...... you just dont want anyone else to see it...hoho . I linked the original convo. It's right there for all to see. I have no reason to lie about it.
ANON is salty because he made himself out to look like a foolish hypocrite. |
Shikabane Ouji
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
5
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:31:00 -
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ANON Illuminati wrote:Shikabane Ouji wrote:ANON Illuminati wrote: HTFU!
Reports people out for perceived personal attacks. lol you seem like you feel some type of way.
I do feel some type of way...
#entertained |
ANON Illuminati
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
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Posted - 2013.10.07 11:33:00 -
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Shikabane Ouji wrote:pegasis prime wrote:Anon you have yet to link your evidence ...... you just dont want anyone else to see it...hoho . I linked the original convo. It's right there for all to see. I have no reason to lie about it. ANON is salty because he made himself out to look like a foolish hypocrite.
lol im salty but your the one posting about it 3 times now. i reported you. this is your third or forth time posting about me reporting you get over it move foward or backward doesnt matter.
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