Good clans/corps have..

Rules & Regulations that include Sexual Harassment Policy

"Failure of any member to follow the rules and regulations, regardless of rank, title or tenure, can result in various levels of corrective action by Community leadership. This action can include verbal or written counseling, warning level increase, loss of rank or title, suspension and dishonorable discharge..."

I take it your corp has these kind of rules?

Yes we do.

This corp should be outed just so others like your friend will know about this beforehand so they can either steer clear or at least be informed if they do join that corp.

honestly im surprised people still use those words as sexual insults... when I call a red or teammate a f-g, Im thinking hes an ******* that needs to get his ass kicked because hes being a ******* idiot in game and its getting in the way of me helping the team get a victory... im not thinking that hes a homosexual... I could care less about that if you can pull the trigger of your gun to kill the enemy.

I rarely ever think of sexuality when it comes to games, this lifestyle is still new and is going through growing pains, basically going through the stereotypes and sensitive issues.


true gamers don't care what the **** you are; male, female, gay, straight, lesbian, black, white. as long as you can help them to gain victory, youl have the respect you want.

its those little kids that care about what you are.. my advice, either stay away form the kids or kill them in battle and gloat about it.

True

But say you where in a group, you said this or that. But he came to you saying "can you cut it out while i am around"

would you? at least apologize for saying it?

The point of the post was that, HE DID ask for it to quit, and was called "An overly sensitive *****"

Mind if i message you some time in game? Under a different name?

nah, I wouldnt apologize for it, I really mean to call the idiots a ******* ******* in any way I can think of.

I don't give in to sensitive people or pressure, I speak my mind, if your offended by it, your best chance it so mute me.
if you ask respectfully and mannered then yeah, il call the assholes something else but I wont change the way I talk because someone is sensitive to it. that honestly not my problem.

people have their own vocabulary and I have mine. if what I say means something different to you than it does to me, eventually wel both adapt to what each other's meaning behinds words are.

it seems that he lacks confidence in himself because of this, that's what im getting out of it.

I was never asked on this, I honestly want to see what is said out there.

But as you said, say I was this individual, and you were talking much unnecessary trash to the enemy. If I asked in such a way that was neither demeaning of you, or my cause, you would pipe down. Or at least find a new one.

I can careless of swearing. And honestly, I didnt ever have a problem of using "gay" as an insult.

Then I was talked a bit on it, so... kinda asking about.

As a openly gay gamer for the last 17 years all i can say is you've just gotta get over the little stuff, rarely do ppl say these things with actual malice towards the ppl they might be insulting, sometimes they do, then if you wish you document it and report it.

Your friend seems to have the right idea though, if a quite word doesn't change it just move on these games are huge and there is always welcoming groups that don't care or even openly welcome ppl with diverse backgrounds and ways of life, smart people know there is strength in diversity.

People would be wise to remember that what they say in game is kept in vast logs, in eve a copy of the chat logs is kept on your computer, players would have years of convos, here we don't have them or perhaps we don't have access to them, but rest assured CCP does, and if you cross the line they will if prompted kick you in the butt.

(south park had a good episode regarding the use of homophobic insults and their context, my partner doesn't agree with it but I think they have point.)

Name and shame them my friend, watch as the community prepares for war against the clan!
Swearing and the odd competive stuff "w*****r" is generally accepted, but I think that racial, homophobic, or religious slurs are uncalled for and unnecessary.

Unfortunately we live in an odd world and some people lack alot of the better attributes, I think I speak on behalf of the entire community when I extend my deepdst sympathies for your friend and I hope he continues to enjoy the game and the positive side of the community.

this guy gets it

you don't speak for me, iv already stated my view on this.

Had any more awkward conversations with female gamers void? even months after negative feedback I still remember that hilarious convo you were having when i joined squad, has anyone let you in on the faux pas that is asking a lady her age yet?

I find it pretty sad that people get offended over words, especially when its not directed at them.

This world has gotten too politcally correct, no wonder the work place is becoming ******.

Please no fighting. There is enough negativity out there, and just trying to shed some light and get some insight is going to cause this, this shows me...

You are showing us some of the worst sides humanity has to offer.

Please no fighting. There is enough negativity out there, and just trying to shed some light and get some insight is going to cause this, this shows me...

You are showing us some of the worst sides humanity has to offer.

I didn't realise you'd chased her off, now its even more funny :D

you can blame the liberals for that bullshit

I do, liberals are awful.

you can blame the liberals for that bullshit

I also forgot to mention the state of the economy and how weak America has become.

I'm signing off for the night. Thank you for all the replies. Both sides of this discussion.


Also, trying to keep up on this topic when I can only post every so many minutes (thanks PS2 bomber for ruining this), this is pretty hard.

I again thank you all on this.

Though I do what to add.

People do get offended by words. I don't know about you, but we have gotten into fist fights over words. Have you not been irritated by the mom that wont watch her child in a grocery store? That obstinate child who is just screaming over something? Not over hear a conversation with a dude with his girl? You can hear it in his tone of voice that he just verbally slapped her?

So in other words, hearing someone call another (F.A.G.) even if it wasn't directed at you, can be a little disheartening. Why in previous cultures this was seen as bad, cultures/ civilization that are now long since dead and gone, this was seen as bad among them, but some how, in our more of a modern society that insulting ones way of life...is ok....

Makes me glad im not american but I feel bad for them, how far they have fallen since the 20's

Your right, I get wound up incredibly easily! [:ugh]
Especially when the troll bait is so easy!

I can't post often enough to police my own thread.

Either or, I'm off for some sleep. If this thread is locked, I blame Void. Even if he didn't cause it, I'm just gonna blame him.

No reason really, like how I blame him for Panda's being endangered or male pattern baldness, I do place this one on him


Though, speaking of sensitivity, when we can be seen as adults. This medium that is.

Look, we cant even show females in a positive roll with out being 15 year old boys who just found dads Playboy stash

I hate the way my country has gone since Obama was first elected.

in the past century, we were THE super power of the planet, now Obama has given that role to Russia.

..... -_- I didn't start ****...

I think you need to start another thread, because you're wildly off topic.

Panda.... the blood of millions of Pandas are because of you!

I'm just exhausted from too long at work and my midnight sip is kicking in.

No hard feelings. Just me being me saying that.

Also, I owe you a tank.

Cheers

P.s - I don't need to start another topic. I just need to wake up early and regain control of it ( if there is anything left)

I'll be on Dust on another toon. I hope to see you guys on the battle field.

I find it pretty sad that people get offended over words, especially when its not directed at them.

This world has gotten too politcally correct, no wonder the work place is becoming ******.

Political correctness is there to help people feel comfortable its all too often used as a bad term. It has its place and derogatory remarks is one of those places. Words are offensive and hurtful when the meaning and the vitriol behind it is obvious.

As a gay man myself I would rather have people stand with me if I have to call out a dickhead (calling a person a *** or a situation gay is a dickish thing to do.) Than do it on my own which is hard, upsetting and can be very lonely if no one else stands with you.

I hope that more stand with me and others who are openly gay than don't.

I hope that we, the community as a whole, can look past the idea of 'its only trolling' and block and report people like this for bullying to CCP.

Political correctness is there to help people feel comfortable its all too often used as a bad term. It has its place and derogatory remarks is one of those places. Words are offensive and hurtful when the meaning and the vitriol behind it is obvious.

As a gay man myself I would rather have people stand with me if I have to call out a dickhead (calling a person a *** or a situation gay is a dickish thing to do.) Than do it on my own which is hard, upsetting and can be very lonely if no one else stands with you.

I hope that more stand with me and others who are openly gay than don't.

I hope that we, the community as a whole, can look past the idea of 'its only trolling' and block and report people like this for bullying to CCP.

I don't want to sound mean or anything but I honestly don't care enough to be offended by any of those insults. I have a much, much darker view of the world than most people but I also get the bittersweet knowledge that in the scheme of things it's not worth it to to be upset over.

I must say I use that word alot.. Im Irish it's just how we some of us talk. I don't mean it in offence. One of my mates swings the other way. we try not to say it too much around him. He understand though that it is never directed it at him

your view on the world will never be more hateful than mine.

just to let you know.

I must say I use that word alot.. Im Irish it's just how we some of us talk. I don't mean it in offence. One of my mates swings the other way. we try not to say it too much around him. He understand though that it is never directed it at him

Makes me glad im not american but I feel bad for them, how far they have fallen since the 20's

I take it your corp has these kind of rules?

If any Corp doesn't they aren't worth your time.

by saying that people SHOULD be sensitive because of political correctness will get hardly anyone to stand with you.


political correctness is a ******* joke, hands down.

regardless of background, if your weak and appear weak, in the real world, your going to be kicked to the curve.

being gay doesn't entitle you to special treatment, regardless of your views. I would give you some respect if you didn't expect or want everyone to treat you like a child.

Racism and homophobia have absolutly no place anywhare as far as im concerned. Normally when it comes to nameing and shaming im not in favour but when someone is consistantly racist or homophobic then id gladly name and shame. These kids ned to be educated or at least informed that such oppinions should be kept to themselves in adult comunitys. If your friend has any issues concerning homophobia then get them to report the partys involved.

It's so sad that our society (well, maybe "society" is not the best term, since I would say this actaully extends to the whole planet) is so used to refer to sexuality or race as an insult.

It's so... withering.

However, I have an idea of the ****storm that a gamer woman runs into when playing online games. Personally (as a woman), I don't really want to get a microphone to talk with people. I know it would be helpful for some games (like this one) to coordinate with my team, but I really don't feel motiveted to use a mic when I play.

In the end, I would use it just a few times, because there is no way I would talk in a mic during a public game, knowing of what generally happens to my friends.

If people doesn't insult you or tell you to STFU, it's because the whole thing is getting very creepy.

Sometimes I feel so disgusted because of what happens in the voice chat (DUST is not the case, but there are quite enough women on Call of Duty and some other game) that I feel so bad and I can't have fun any longer. I just turn my PS3 off.

A) I am not a child nor would I wish to be treated like one.

B) I did not ask people to be sensitive I asked people to stand up/speak out against people who use derogatory terms in an obviously mean way.

C) Being Gay does not make one weak if anything it makes you stronger and more able to stand up to idiots.

D) I don't want special treatment I wish to be treated like any other person and mocked for my inability to hit someone with a gun not for my preference to have sex with them.

E) Get some Gay friends and talk to them you'll find in general we're very nice people who just want to be able to play our games without being mocked for being who we are, just as you shouldn't call a black person n****r or an asian person "slanty eyed". I promise you we don't want to have sex with you if thats what you're worried about, I guarantee that.

F) Back to your mums basement Troll. ;-)

America is a broken country as is our economy but it certainly isnt the liberals fault more like the upper class with their bought out 15% tax bracket. and the war mongering republicans so sad to watch a country that used to be for the middle and lower class go against the very ideas it was founded upon..but America like every other democracy has reached its future destination,and become the corrupt lie that every democracy before turned into. this change has nothing to do with liberal's or the evolution of our culture...useing politically correct terms did not cause america's ruin the people robbing our government of revenue and then making choice to spend what revenue we have on war is why our country is broken. with the upper classes taxes half what the lower and middle classes lol america shares the fate of every democracy collapse and ruin revolution and change it is very sad humans never learn we never change and history continuously repeats itself.

i never said anything about obama i certainly did not vote for him actually i didnt vote for mcain either i opt hen its a choice between 2 evils. and it doesnt matter who is president republican or democrat no one can say the state of our government could be laid on one parties shoulders. certainly not one preseidents soldier america was not ruined by one presidency but by a series of bad coices made by both parties because ultimatley in america what you represent personally does not matter in politics allt hat matter is what side you are on left or right..dems vote for dems just because they are dems and so do republicans..my only point in my statement was that the republicans of today represent the exact oposite of what their party was founded on ..the democrats of today represent the ideal america was founded on thee original republican party the VIRGINIAN REPUBLICAN PARTY (asa virginian i feal the need to point that out) represented the same ideals that the democrats do now and the republicans of today represent the same ideal the original federalists represent. the issue with america didnt begin with the presidency it began with congress one by one our representatives were bought out by mega corps...those congressmen have been holding open loopholes that allow people like obama and anyone in the upper class to LEGALLY PAY half of what any other American citizen pays. on top of that unlike the presidency our congressmen have 0 term limit meaning the same ******* who made assinine choice in world war 2 and vietnam is stil STILL REPRESENTING US ... they're are people in congress who have been voting for their personal taxes to be lowered while ours are raised for over 50 years ...THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH OBAMA..and sadly their is nothing our figurehead of a president can do about that...it is highly unlikely that majority of the congress will ever vote to adjust and fix the tax system as that would cost them money...and it is highly unlikely our economy will ever not be in debt again.

A. Ok then, my view is that anyone who wants others to go by political correctness is a child.

B. that wont happen often, people are going to say hurtful things and even if your offended by them, they wont care if its not directed towards you.

C. im not saying being gay is making you weak, im not homophobic, im saying your appearing weak because your asking for people to stand by your side when your trying to fight something.

D. wanting people to stop using terms that offend you is wanting special treatment.

E. I have a gay uncle, I love him and respect him, im not homophobic in any way nor will I ever be, if your uncomfortable because of what people say (even though its not directed towards you), then good luck out there. i don't care what or who you ****, but if you try anything on me, your going to get in a fight.

F. we don't have a basement, and im 18 so of course I still live with my parents, im barely in my 1st semester of college after I graduated last spring.

True

But say you where in a group, you said this or that. But he came to you saying "can you cut it out while i am around"

would you? at least apologize for saying it?

The point of the post was that, HE DID ask for it to quit, and was called "An overly sensitive *****"

i have 2 gay uncles they get bashed all the time...

Here are the guys at "Extra Credit" on harassment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt9GwmOWoqo

I would just like to remind everyone that if you are being harassed that you should file a support ticket with the GMs. We take these matters very seriously.

I would speak with your Uncle then and ask him how he would react if someone in the street shouts F*G! at him or his partner. Someone shouting that in a game is a similar situation, when you are trying to live your life and someone says horrible things about you in a blatantly nasty manner its a jarring horrible experience.

I have had it a few times in the street, I have even been attacked for holding a boyfriends hand in the street so sometimes if I ask reasonably that people try to understand what it can be like for a gay person to live openly I would hope they would. I am glad that the majority in this thread understand and have stood with me either in giving tacit support to the sentiment of the thread or even liking mine and others posts.

I like to think of playing games as a fun pastime, but if I come in for abuse from someone for being myself, I am who I am after all ;-) then meh I'll mute them and mock them in open channel and report them if they send me hateful messages, then move on to the next round.

Maybe you are correct about the term 'political correctness' though its too loaded a term for knuckle dragging numptys who read and listen to too much right wing media. I'll call it something else then...


How about 'not being a prick'?


Good luck in college, may it open your mind a bit more.

It's a goddamn shame. I wish people wouldn't act like a child. SO what if people's gay? That's there's liking. That's like me not liking carrots as a snack, but liking grapes. It's a choice.

my uncle doesn't care about insults, he knows that people cant harm him by words. its called maturity.

im may come off as a prick but its not my problem. don't like my attitude, don't care.

If you mail me those players names, I will go out of my way to wreck these so called players.

Whatever happened to just let things be? If someone has a different sexual orientation, than let them. It's not hurting anyone. Like seriously, put yourself in there shoes. Then how would you feel?

http://youtu.be/hlVBg7_08n0

Watch this^^^

All was fine till, after a while, he's noticed a large some of the community ( with in game) and with in the corp of some words going around. He doesnt like people screaming F.A.G. in an unfavorable term. As in, you get killed and hear "F'ing F.A.G.". Let me repeat, with in game, he hears people scream this and is getting offended by this. Even from this corp I spoke of earlier.

I am not quite sure why your friend is taking this personel?, its clearly used as a generic term as a "AW CRAP" word and not directed at a gay person?

Good clans/corps have..

Rules & Regulations that include Sexual Harassment Policy

"Failure of any member to follow the rules and regulations, regardless of rank, title or tenure, can result in various levels of corrective action by Community leadership. This action can include verbal or written counseling, warning level increase, loss of rank or title, suspension and dishonorable discharge..."

I have nothing to say on this subject that hasn't been said already, but its important, and I'm glad it's being discussed.

Alright. THIS wasn't directed TO me, but I was witness to this, and I would call these "KIDS" out, but in all, it would just harm the victim more. But this is something I want to bring to you, the adult side of this community.

I got a friend into this game who is gay. Now, I'm not saying cartwheels, rainbows coming from his arse, but he does enjoy the company of men.

WELL, hes stayed with the game, and enjoyed it properly. Got him self, now, i think close to 12m SP. So, yes, invested some time into this, got him into " my corp" ( I use this term loosely now) and have had some great time.

All was fine till, after a while, he's noticed a large some of the community ( with in game) and with in the corp of some words going around. He doesnt like people screaming F.A.G. in an unfavorable term. As in, you get killed and hear "F'ing F.A.G.". Let me repeat, with in game, he hears people scream this and is getting offended by this. Even from this corp I spoke of earlier.

A town hall meeting has come up and I brought this up. The response "He should learn to HTFU and learn to get over it", to as far as "This is how I talk. If he doesn't like this, he should leave"
My response to this was immediately, "You are justifying being an a-hole. You don't want to change how you talk around this guy, but would much rather continue the way you talk, not in regard to how you might actually offend this guy"

Well, you can see how long he stayed with in the corp. I even left friends and family to even follow him on his journey in being blue. And guess what, this wasn't just there, even in other corps, but it did do something.

The previous corp, the group caught wind of why he left, and it had others spool up and raise their hands saying "this also offends me"

One of them was black. I then received a message outside of game saying "F'ng 'n' ( yes, the n-bomb) should learn to grow up, and HTFU because life is unfair, people ingeneral, in the real world are going to talk to him like that and he should just learn to adjust"

This continued back and forth down to it ending in being called a "n-bomb lover" ( please replace n-bomb for a more or less, 6 letter word starting with n, a few g's, and a 'R')

Well, the corp soon got them selves a holding cell for new players, to teach and mold new players. Cohoerted my friend to rejoin, under new management, and rather a good guy did talk him back in, including the black guy from before.

Long story short, someone in that first corp told me they are now planing on closing this previous corp because they let both of these two in, because of how they left this first corp ( which I seen them leave under the terms of "I'm tired of hearing my sexuality being constantly used in a negative text, and treatment of race ( including N-bombing) is not acceptable as an adult."

So, I come to you guys, he doesnt know the corp he is in, is going to nuke, and take out some rather good names from the corp as...as far as I can tell, because of being a child.

So I ask you, was anyone being in the wrong here? Should I make this corp public ( I won't but I gotta ask)

I'm just left baffled, that someone can confront another, asking them to quit and they can just "I don't want to change, it is YOU that has to change"

I felt I needed to share and start making this public.

TL;DR crowd

Calling that red dot that gunned you down a "gay" can offend people in your squad. And has, and has escalated to an almost ridiculous point that, I want this a little out there.

Call 'em out.

They have no problem voicing their opinion to one of us, why not everyone?
They should be just as proud of who they are in their bigotry.

Ha, but doesn't the OP describe 92 percent of the corporations in New Eden?

honestly im surprised people still use those words as sexual insults... when I call a red or teammate a f-g, Im thinking hes an ******* that needs to get his ass kicked because hes being a ******* idiot in game and its getting in the way of me helping the team get a victory... im not thinking that hes a homosexual... I could care less about that if you can pull the trigger of your gun to kill the enemy.

Here are the guys at "Extra Credit" on harassment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt9GwmOWoqo

honestly im surprised people still use those words as sexual insults... when I call a red or teammate a f-g, Im thinking hes an ******* that needs to get his ass kicked because hes being a ******* idiot in game and its getting in the way of me helping the team get a victory... im not thinking that hes a homosexual... I could care less about that if you can pull the trigger of your gun to kill the enemy.

I rarely ever think of sexuality when it comes to games, this lifestyle is still new and is going through growing pains, basically going through the stereotypes and sensitive issues.


true gamers don't care what the **** you are; male, female, gay, straight, lesbian, black, white. as long as you can help them to gain victory, youl have the respect you want.

its those little kids that care about what you are.. my advice, either stay away form the kids or kill them in battle and gloat about it.

good luck.

You can't split the meaning of a word like that, because that's not the way that language works. Arguing that "I don't mean it that way" is absolutely meaningless- no one else can hear your thoughts, and putting up a disclaimer like that doesn't win you a free pass. Invoking a word will always call to mind every definition, positive and negative, of that word.

Let me be the first to say that I use the word gay in game when I die in a way I view as soft,, weak, or with feminine traits, I will not apologize for this as it has no direct derogatory insinuation toward someone who is gay, nor do gays own the rights to the word gay. As a matter of fact most of this post is gay...... There is some validity where personal attacks are concerned but this is within a corp surely they can simply seperate from one another, I mean does this need to be a public debate? I mean name calling? That's where we are?

I'd also like to bring up the topic of verbally bashing those with disabilities, especially autism (which, for whatever reason, gets a terrible rap on Eve, and to a lesser extent here).

My past job had me working as a school bus aide for disabled children. These are some of the nicest kids I've ever had the pleasure of getting to know, and it makes me furious when I see people saying things that generalize all disabled people as incapable of thought or emotion.

It's that moment where you want to reach your fist through the headset and bash their face inward.

It's hard to treat a word as "just a word" when it has a boatload of history weighing it down...

I find it sad that you are so weak then, where I grew uo if you needed someone to stand by you were kicked down. Too many people in this day in age have become weak little babies. Grow up, if you cant deal with a word then dont use the internet and dont leave the plastic bubble you must live in.

This goes for anyone and everyone.

Alright. THIS wasn't directed TO me, but I was witness to this, and I would call these "KIDS" out, but in all, it would just harm the victim more. But this is something I want to bring to you, the adult side of this community.

I got a friend into this game who is gay. Now, I'm not saying cartwheels, rainbows coming from his arse, but he does enjoy the company of men.

WELL, hes stayed with the game, and enjoyed it properly. Got him self, now, i think close to 12m SP. So, yes, invested some time into this, got him into " my corp" ( I use this term loosely now) and have had some great time.

All was fine till, after a while, he's noticed a large some of the community ( with in game) and with in the corp of some words going around. He doesnt like people screaming F.A.G. in an unfavorable term. As in, you get killed and hear "F'ing F.A.G.". Let me repeat, with in game, he hears people scream this and is getting offended by this. Even from this corp I spoke of earlier.

A town hall meeting has come up and I brought this up. The response "He should learn to HTFU and learn to get over it", to as far as "This is how I talk. If he doesn't like this, he should leave"
My response to this was immediately, "You are justifying being an a-hole. You don't want to change how you talk around this guy, but would much rather continue the way you talk, not in regard to how you might actually offend this guy"

Well, you can see how long he stayed with in the corp. I even left friends and family to even follow him on his journey in being blue. And guess what, this wasn't just there, even in other corps, but it did do something.

The previous corp, the group caught wind of why he left, and it had others spool up and raise their hands saying "this also offends me"

One of them was black. I then received a message outside of game saying "F'ng 'n' ( yes, the n-bomb) should learn to grow up, and HTFU because life is unfair, people ingeneral, in the real world are going to talk to him like that and he should just learn to adjust"

This continued back and forth down to it ending in being called a "n-bomb lover" ( please replace n-bomb for a more or less, 6 letter word starting with n, a few g's, and a 'R')

Well, the corp soon got them selves a holding cell for new players, to teach and mold new players. Cohoerted my friend to rejoin, under new management, and rather a good guy did talk him back in, including the black guy from before.

Long story short, someone in that first corp told me they are now planing on closing this previous corp because they let both of these two in, because of how they left this first corp ( which I seen them leave under the terms of "I'm tired of hearing my sexuality being constantly used in a negative text, and treatment of race ( including N-bombing) is not acceptable as an adult."

So, I come to you guys, he doesnt know the corp he is in, is going to nuke, and take out some rather good names from the corp as...as far as I can tell, because of being a child.

So I ask you, was anyone being in the wrong here? Should I make this corp public ( I won't but I gotta ask)

I'm just left baffled, that someone can confront another, asking them to quit and they can just "I don't want to change, it is YOU that has to change"

I felt I needed to share and start making this public.

TL;DR crowd

Calling that red dot that gunned you down a "gay" can offend people in your squad. And has, and has escalated to an almost ridiculous point that, I want this a little out there.

........d not struggling with who you are.

Why would i ? im awesome....

;)

This proves the point. Constant use of the word (and others) has desensitized us to the word's true meaning. It's just like driving to and from work. You do it so often that your brain goes into "auto-pilot" and before you know it, you have reached your destination without much detail of how.

The "n" word is just ignorant when used, as it was born from a decrepid era yet is used as a socially accepted greeting. Baffles me really and I am part Black. The "f" word, when used to display anger or frustration towards someone is equally appauling. How would you like it if you were no longer called by your name and it was replaced instead based on a flaw of yours. "You aren't Greg anymore. I think we'll call you 'Captain McStubby' because you are missing one of your apendeges."

To people it offends, stand the hell up and say something because if you don't, 1. you are in no position to complain and 2. you are just as guilty by letting it continue should it offend someone else. Seriously.

Remember...you can't cure "stupid". And ignorance? Well, that is just a deadlier strain of stupid.

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True, it makes us unafraid of pc libs and there hate speech doctrine that attempts to control how we think. We in my country are free and that independent cavalier mentality will be present anywhere you see my name and as such it carries the right to hurl dreadful insults at the red dot that CAN'T EVEN HEAR IT, as for the ladies it offended second hand, you have a mute button, block button, leave corp button, or my personal recomendation an uninstall dust button........

why is this thread still here?

the matter is over, resolved. go on with your character's life.

don't care lol... your still an awesome ass hole