DUST Search - Received a contrived hate speech for asking one to be "reasonable"

Void Echo wrote:

ponies test wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

honestly im surprised people still use those words as sexual insults... when I call a red or teammate a f-g, Im thinking hes an ******* that needs to get his ass kicked because hes being a ******* idiot in game and its getting in the way of me helping the team get a victory... im not thinking that hes a homosexual... I could care less about that if you can pull the trigger of your gun to kill the enemy.

I rarely ever think of sexuality when it comes to games, this lifestyle is still new and is going through growing pains, basically going through the stereotypes and sensitive issues.

true gamers don't care what the **** you are; male, female, gay, straight, lesbian, black, white. as long as you can help them to gain victory, youl have the respect you want.

its those little kids that care about what you are.. my advice, either stay away form the kids or kill them in battle and gloat about it.

True

But say you where in a group, you said this or that. But he came to you saying "can you cut it out while i am around"

would you? at least apologize for saying it?

The point of the post was that, HE DID ask for it to quit, and was called "An overly sensitive *****"

nah, I wouldnt apologize for it, I really mean to call the idiots a ******* ******* in any way I can think of.

I don't give in to sensitive people or pressure, I speak my mind, if your offended by it, your best chance it so mute me.
if you ask respectfully and mannered then yeah, il call the assholes something else but I wont change the way I talk because someone is sensitive to it. that honestly not my problem.

people have their own vocabulary and I have mine. if what I say means something different to you than it does to me, eventually wel both adapt to what each other's meaning behinds words are.

it seems that he lacks confidence in himself because of this, that's what im getting out of it.


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ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.09.24 07:51:00 - [1] - Quote Alright. THIS wasn't directed TO me, but I was witness to this, and I would call these "KIDS" out, but in all, it would just harm the victim more. But this is something I want to bring to you, the adult side of this community. I got a friend into this game who is gay. Now, I'm not saying cartwheels, rainbows coming from his arse, but he does enjoy the company of men. WELL, hes stayed with the game, and enjoyed it properly. Got him self, now, i think close to 12m SP. So, yes, invested some time into this, got him into " my corp" ( I use this term loosely now) and have had some great time. All was fine till, after a while, he's noticed a large some of the community ( with in game) and with in the corp of some words going around. He doesnt like people screaming F.A.G. in an unfavorable term. As in, you get killed and hear "F'ing F.A.G.". Let me repeat, with in game, he hears people scream this and is getting offended by this. Even from this corp I spoke of earlier. A town hall meeting has come up and I brought this up. The response "He should learn to HTFU and learn to get over it", to as far as "This is how I talk. If he doesn't like this, he should leave" My response to this was immediately, "You are justifying being an a-hole. You don't want to change how you talk around this guy, but would much rather continue the way you talk, not in regard to how you might actually offend this guy" Well, you can see how long he stayed with in the corp. I even left friends and family to even follow him on his journey in being blue. And guess what, this wasn't just there, even in other corps, but it did do something. The previous corp, the group caught wind of why he left, and it had others spool up and raise their hands saying "this also offends me" One of them was black. I then received a message outside of game saying "F'ng 'n' ( yes, the n-bomb) should learn to grow up, and HTFU because life is unfair, people ingeneral, in the real world are going to talk to him like that and he should just learn to adjust" This continued back and forth down to it ending in being called a "n-bomb lover" ( please replace n-bomb for a more or less, 6 letter word starting with n, a few g's, and a 'R') Well, the corp soon got them selves a holding cell for new players, to teach and mold new players. Cohoerted my friend to rejoin, under new management, and rather a good guy did talk him back in, including the black guy from before. Long story short, someone in that first corp told me they are now planing on closing this previous corp because they let both of these two in, because of how they left this first corp ( which I seen them leave under the terms of "I'm tired of hearing my sexuality being constantly used in a negative text, and treatment of race ( including N-bombing) is not acceptable as an adult." So, I come to you guys, he doesnt know the corp he is in, is going to nuke, and take out some rather good names from the corp as...as far as I can tell, because of being a child. So I ask you, was anyone being in the wrong here? Should I make this corp public ( I won't but I gotta ask) I'm just left baffled, that someone can confront another, asking them to quit and they can just "I don't want to change, it is YOU that has to change" I felt I needed to share and start making this public.
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.09.24 07:54:00 - [2] - Quote Oh and while I am at it " hearing" "This isn't a girl friend corp" one more time because a female squads up, let alone is asked to join, I thank you plenty for scaring off the female base in this game. I mean, it is small as is, lets remove maybe another 10% off already. No.... you talking like this just makes you sound like a sexist/racist bigot.
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 2	Posted - 2013.09.24 08:11:00 - [3] - Quote Flamesea wrote: Good clans/corps have.. Rules & Regulations that include Sexual Harassment Policy "Failure of any member to follow the rules and regulations, regardless of rank, title or tenure, can result in various levels of corrective action by Community leadership. This action can include verbal or written counseling, warning level increase, loss of rank or title, suspension and dishonorable discharge..." I take it your corp has these kind of rules?
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.09.24 08:20:00 - [4] - Quote I know this is just calling a red "gay" but they where offended, brought it up and was asked to "HTFU". I know this might be taking this too far, but... I feel they were wronged, and obviously for leaving, they felt wronged.
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 4	Posted - 2013.09.24 08:25:00 - [5] - Quote Well, when this does get locked, by what, I haven't a clue. Either or, your actions are not only judged, but graded. Honestly, I hope he can join a good strong corp and take this other one down. When the inevitable lock comes in, I do thank you all for the responses past, present, and future. And those who cannot post when it is locked.
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 5	Posted - 2013.09.24 08:31:00 - [6] - Quote Flamesea wrote: ponies test wrote: Flamesea wrote: Good clans/corps have.. Rules & Regulations that include Sexual Harassment Policy "Failure of any member to follow the rules and regulations, regardless of rank, title or tenure, can result in various levels of corrective action by Community leadership. This action can include verbal or written counseling, warning level increase, loss of rank or title, suspension and dishonorable discharge..." I take it your corp has these kind of rules? Yes we do. Mind if i message you some time in game? Under a different name?
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 5	Posted - 2013.09.24 08:46:00 - [7] - Quote Void Echo wrote: honestly im surprised people still use those words as sexual insults... when I call a red or teammate a f-g, Im thinking hes an ***** that needs to get his ass kicked because hes being a *** idiot in game and its getting in the way of me helping the team get a victory... im not thinking that hes a homosexual... I could care less about that if you can pull the trigger of your gun to kill the enemy. I rarely ever think of sexuality when it comes to games, this lifestyle is still new and is going through growing pains, basically going through the stereotypes and sensitive issues. true gamers don't care what the you are; male, female, gay, straight, lesbian, black, white. as long as you can help them to gain victory, youl have the respect you want. its those little kids that care about what you are.. my advice, either stay away form the kids or kill them in battle and gloat about it. True But say you where in a group, you said this or that. But he came to you saying "can you cut it out while i am around" would you? at least apologize for saying it? The point of the post was that, HE DID ask for it to quit, and was called "An overly sensitive ***"
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.09.24 08:52:00 - [8] - Quote Here are the guys at "Extra Credit" on harassment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dt9GwmOWoqo
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.09.24 09:05:00 - [9] - Quote Void Echo wrote: ponies test wrote: Void Echo wrote: honestly im surprised people still use those words as sexual insults... when I call a red or teammate a f-g, Im thinking hes an ***** that needs to get his ass kicked because hes being a *** idiot in game and its getting in the way of me helping the team get a victory... im not thinking that hes a homosexual... I could care less about that if you can pull the trigger of your gun to kill the enemy. I rarely ever think of sexuality when it comes to games, this lifestyle is still new and is going through growing pains, basically going through the stereotypes and sensitive issues. true gamers don't care what the you are; male, female, gay, straight, lesbian, black, white. as long as you can help them to gain victory, youl have the respect you want. its those little kids that care about what you are.. my advice, either stay away form the kids or kill them in battle and gloat about it. True But say you where in a group, you said this or that. But he came to you saying "can you cut it out while i am around" would you? at least apologize for saying it? The point of the post was that, HE DID ask for it to quit, and was called "An overly sensitive *" nah, I wouldnt apologize for it, I really mean to call the idiots a *** ***** in any way I can think of. I don't give in to sensitive people or pressure, I speak my mind, if your offended by it, your best chance it so mute me. if you ask respectfully and mannered then yeah, il call the assholes something else but I wont change the way I talk because someone is sensitive to it. that honestly not my problem. people have their own vocabulary and I have mine. if what I say means something different to you than it does to me, eventually wel both adapt to what each other's meaning behinds words are. it seems that he lacks confidence in himself because of this, that's what im getting out of it. I was never asked on this, I honestly want to see what is said out there. But as you said, say I was this individual, and you were talking much unnecessary trash to the enemy. If I asked in such a way that was neither demeaning of you, or my cause, you would pipe down. Or at least find a new one. I can careless of swearing. And honestly, I didnt ever have a problem of using "gay" as an insult. Then I was talked a bit on it, so... kinda asking about.
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.09.24 09:20:00 - [10] - Quote Please no fighting. There is enough negativity out there, and just trying to shed some light and get some insight is going to cause this, this shows me... You are showing us some of the worst sides humanity has to offer.

ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.09.24 09:29:00 - [11] - Quote I'm signing off for the night. Thank you for all the replies. Both sides of this discussion. Also, trying to keep up on this topic when I can only post every so many minutes (thanks PS2 bomber for ruining this), this is pretty hard. I again thank you all on this. Though I do what to add. People do get offended by words. I don't know about you, but we have gotten into fist fights over words. Have you not been irritated by the mom that wont watch her child in a grocery store? That obstinate child who is just screaming over something? Not over hear a conversation with a dude with his girl? You can hear it in his tone of voice that he just verbally slapped her? So in other words, hearing someone call another (F.A.G.) even if it wasn't directed at you, can be a little disheartening. Why in previous cultures this was seen as bad, cultures/ civilization that are now long since dead and gone, this was seen as bad among them, but some how, in our more of a modern society that insulting ones way of life...is ok....
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.09.24 09:35:00 - [12] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: ponies test wrote: Please no fighting. There is enough negativity out there, and just trying to shed some light and get some insight is going to cause this, this shows me... You are showing us some of the worst sides humanity has to offer. Your right, I get wound up incredibly easily! [:ugh] Especially when the troll bait is so easy! I can't post often enough to police my own thread. Either or, I'm off for some sleep. If this thread is locked, I blame Void. Even if he didn't cause it, I'm just gonna blame him. No reason really, like how I blame him for Panda's being endangered or male pattern baldness, I do place this one on him Though, speaking of sensitivity, when we can be seen as adults. This medium that is. Look, we cant even show females in a positive roll with out being 15 year old boys who just found dads Playboy stash
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 11	Posted - 2013.09.24 09:40:00 - [13] - Quote Void Echo wrote: ponies test wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: ponies test wrote: Please no fighting. There is enough negativity out there, and just trying to shed some light and get some insight is going to cause this, this shows me... You are showing us some of the worst sides humanity has to offer. Your right, I get wound up incredibly easily! [:ugh] Especially when the troll bait is so easy! I can't post often enough to police my own thread. Either or, I'm off for some sleep. If this thread is locked, I blame Void. Even if he didn't cause it, I'm just gonna blame him. No reason really, like how I blame him for Panda's being endangered or male pattern baldness, I do place this one on him Though, speaking of sensitivity, when we can be seen as adults. This medium that is. Look, we cant even show females in a positive roll with out being 15 year old boys who just found dads Playboy stash ..... -_- I didn't start ****... Panda.... the blood of millions of Pandas are because of you! I'm just exhausted from too long at work and my midnight sip is kicking in. No hard feelings. Just me being me saying that. Also, I owe you a tank. Cheers P.s - I don't need to start another topic. I just need to wake up early and regain control of it ( if there is anything left) I'll be on Dust on another toon. I hope to see you guys on the battle field.
ponies test Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 12	Posted - 2013.09.24 10:14:00 - [14] - Quote I want to quote that video I posted on page 1 It is like we gave the school bully access to the intercom and told him that the WHOLE school would and could hear anything he said. NO CONSEQUENCES