-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

There's a lot of QQ here. But it's not your typical QQ, and it's really rather a QQ about others' QQ.

So +1

whoa whoa whoa hold on there, us heavies complaining about our FG? since when?

i've seen FG nerf threads but a thread about FG being UP??

i want what you're smoking there lol

I am a forge gunner.

Towers are overpowered

Stay away from my forge gun

(fyi i dont towere snipe)

Forge Gun buff requests are probably trolling threads and I saw just one of them time ago.

Forge Gunners frequently ask for Tank nerfs. Some of them actually do whine about their FG not being able to solo a tank, which is absolutely false.

While I kind of share the same sentiment... aren't snipers in the same category? It's a playstyle which takes very little risk for decent rewards, while also being incredibly boring to play.

Most people would probably rather watch paint dry than sit in the redline or on top of a tower all day, but then there are those who really can't get fun out of the game doing anything that requires a modicum of spatial awareness.

Well... They won't ever get my respect, but the game designer in me also wants to say that it's not a bad idea to give those people something fun to do. While it's frustrating to deal with, in turn we "others" get to enjoy entertaining threads like this, sharing our disdain in solidarity.

If one headshot with a Charge sniper (dedicated sniper with proficiency and damage mods) is not enough to OHK a heavy sniper, 2 kaalakiota headshots (when the enemy is not moving you can easily land 2 headhots with a tac sniper) sure can.

Snipers can be really annoying, but nothing prevents me from flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back.

redline rail tanks cant see much... soooo they arnt particularly dealy to anything besides tanks who wander around like they are immune to gunfire... wich means if the railtank diddnt get them soemthing else would of.


soooo take mountain rail tanks off this list of gripes?

I understand your point of view, but I wouldn't put snipers in the same category.

Snipers can only kill infantry, though, and they are easy to snipe back once you spot them. They can't move while aiming and, unless they're sniping in a heavy suit, one single headshot is more than enough to kill a proto sniper with armor plates.

If one headshot with a Charge sniper (dedicated sniper with proficiency and damage mods) is not enough to OHK a heavy sniper, 2 kaalakiota headshots (when the enemy is not moving you can easily land 2 headhots with a tac sniper) sure can.

Snipers can be really annoying, but nothing prevents me from flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back.

SO let me get this straight, If I rail an enemy tank that is working hard to help his team in closer combat, this is me saying I have a weak tank, but I'll cheap shot other tanks, OR is this a tank with a powerful long range weapon using range, to supress and stop other tanks from killing my team?

CCP like people using the height advantages on this game, and a forge gunner a top a tower is not invincible, he is a sniper target, if your teams snipers cant supress or kill him, to bad, better luck next time.

Also rail tanks can shoot forgers off them towers, its a matter of knowing how.

So to generalize the OP, anything that uses range or tactical postioning should be ashamed of themselves.
By the same whacked out logic:
AR's you should be ashamed of using automatic weapons, try being a man and pull the trigger every shot.
Mass drivers, quit relying on explosions your cowards
Snipers, how about you come into submachine gun range.
Knova Knifers, try that from 50m
Tankers, how about you get out and try fight me.
Grenades, how about you don't explode.

etc etc etc

hahahahah "tactical"! You're actually defending such a broken mechanic as redline sniping! I've no arguments against such awesomeness, you win.

When did I whine about anything of those things? Your "generalization" is the most stupid I've ever seen.

man i hate those snipers who carry the kaalakiota SR. but then i just switch to my heavy sniper and find those guys, i once hunted down a sniper so many times in one game that he switch back to militia SR after losing too many of his officer weapon

Was he a Thaler?

omg he lost several Thales in the same match?

As is the how dare you use your long range weapons at long range rant on post#1

As is the how dare you use your long range weapons at long range rant on post#1

I love taking someones Thales, few minutes later you'll see their name on kill feed with an ADV SR, funny stuff.

As someone who likes to think he can read I'd say the post was not about the distance but more so the placement and cowardly behavior.

lol the only time I killed a Thaler he left the match. Even funnier.

I use a railgun sniper, I really love it. I don't really stay on the redline (unless my infantry gets pushed back to the redline) but I try to stay as far away from combat as I can, railguns' main advantage is range of course. The thing is though, with the render issues, railgun sniper tanks are actually easy to take out right now because swarms and lock on and fire from outside their render distance and so can FGs (well, not lock on anyway) so their missiles/projectile is totally invisible just like their suit. I just want to point out your rant was hilarious, even if uniformed, and made me lol so you get my like. BTW, even blaster and missile tanks are supposed to stay as far from enemy infantry as possible so they really shouldn't be wading into an enemy held objective infested with AV.

-Mountain railgunner:
You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

I'm a tanker, I know of the render issue, I know of the Swarm launchers and I know how fragile tanks are.

You said you're not redlining (of course, unless your team gets actually redlined, which is perfectly natural) and that's the same for me. I keep my distance, but I'm mobile and I don't use a hill which cannot be reached by enemy vehicles and infantry to retreat as soon as I take damage.

How is my thread uninformed?

If I'm not on the tower then the enemy team is likely to, better me for the sake of my team then them. If you don't want to deal with it then stay out of my limited 300 meter range or die or better yet, get a decent sniper. Get four dropships since I can't kill all of them before you get up there. Hell if you squish me with one, I'll send you mail telling you that was absolutely hilarious.

The rail tankers on hills is a problem and they are bad and should feel bad.

Forge gunners on towers is actually less of a problem and they are doing what they are supposed to be doing. People always forget the forge gun is not anti-vehicle it's anti-material.

Uninformed because it's highly opinionated.

That logic right there makes every post uninformed. Thanks for coming out Mr. Uninformed.

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

whoa whoa whoa hold on there, us heavies complaining about our FG? since when?

i've seen FG nerf threads but a thread about FG being UP??

i want what you're smoking there lol

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

reasonable, rational, grammatically proficent, hard to kill in game and lookin fine while at it in your caldari suit +1 when we gonna squad up again?

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

Hahaha thanks bud, actually English is not my first language, so it took a noticeable amount of time for me to type all that stuff.

I would squad up with you anytime, if you see me online then I'm ready to go.

Time well spent, I'm getting on in the next 10-20 minutes. Ill find you in our chat room o7

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

OP you are absolutely right and awesome quick question though is it by the same definition cowardly to retreat to the redline for a short period during a match or use the redline to recall? either way +1 dude

This is for all the forge gunners camping on buildings

As a Heavy who stays on the ground, I cannot condone tower camping with a FG. It is cowardly and it throws off the balance of the game.

Redline Sniper tanks are in the same club.

-1 to tower camping FG Heavies

-1 to redline railtanks

+1 to OP.

As a side note, those Ferrari Armor Tanks...

OP you are absolutely right and awesome quick question though is it by the same definition cowardly to retreat to the redline for a short period during a match or use the redline to recall? either way +1 dude

This is for all the forge gunners camping on buildings

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

The link doesn't work for me.

As a Heavy who stays on the ground, I cannot condone tower camping with a FG. It is cowardly and it throws off the balance of the game.

Redline Sniper tanks are in the same club.

-1 to tower camping FG Heavies

-1 to redline railtanks

+1 to OP.

As a side note, those Ferrari Armor Tanks...

(assuming your a lady) I wanna have sex with you. I don't even care that you're a money *****, I just want to **** that amazing mouth of yours

I actually am, but you scared the **** out of me

EDIT: I mean a lady, not a money *****!

Tact and grace, my friend, tact and grace.

I wonder how many women play this game... but from what I know I might be the only one on these forums.

I don't see either as cowardly. I can understand why you may think that, but If this was not part of the design, the redline would be off limits, rooftops would be beyond access.
A rail sniper/redline rail sniper can offer great 1 man home point defense, and also vehicle contol across the majority of a some maps, other maps their over look is minor and very restricted. This is good for the team with the rail tank, restricting movements of enemy tanks can swing a battle.
Same goes for a roof top forger, tho with these guys they cause a lot more issues for infantry. They can lock maps down for vehicles, stopping the enemy getting high to place uplinks, stopping tanks from running wild, and offering an effective overwatch on an objective.
Though it may annoy some, maybe red line snipers(sniper rifles) can get their ass out the mountain and counter the Forge gunner. I've lost a few rail tanks in the redline to people who knew how to get to me.

I've said it many times on these forums, but if someone chooses a certain tactic, thats their choice. They have fun doing it, fair play to them. The redline is not an area of "exploit" its a valid area to operate from. Tall builings are part of the game, placed there by design. It's not as if only 1 team gets a redline or access to tall building.

Really a case of HTFU on this one.

While I kind of share the same sentiment... aren't snipers in the same category? It's a playstyle which takes very little risk for decent rewards, while also being incredibly boring to play.

Most people would probably rather watch paint dry than sit in the redline or on top of a tower all day, but then there are those who really can't get fun out of the game doing anything that requires a modicum of spatial awareness.

Well... They won't ever get my respect, but the game designer in me also wants to say that it's not a bad idea to give those people something fun to do. While it's frustrating to deal with, in turn we "others" get to enjoy entertaining threads like this, sharing our disdain in solidarity.

Amen brother!

I don't see either as cowardly. I can understand why you may think that, but If this was not part of the design, the redline would be off limits, rooftops would be beyond access.
A rail sniper/redline rail sniper can offer great 1 man home point defense, and also vehicle contol across the majority of a some maps, other maps their over look is minor and very restricted. This is good for the team with the rail tank, restricting movements of enemy tanks can swing a battle.
Same goes for a roof top forger, tho with these guys they cause a lot more issues for infantry. They can lock maps down for vehicles, stopping the enemy getting high to place uplinks, stopping tanks from running wild, and offering an effective overwatch on an objective.
Though it may annoy some, maybe red line snipers(sniper rifles) can get their ass out the mountain and counter the Forge gunner. I've lost a few rail tanks in the redline to people who knew how to get to me.

I've said it many times on these forums, but if someone chooses a certain tactic, thats their choice. They have fun doing it, fair play to them. The redline is not an area of "exploit" its a valid area to operate from. Tall builings are part of the game, placed there by design. It's not as if only 1 team gets a redline or access to tall building.

Really a case of HTFU on this one.

yeah, I should take my tank, put the worst kind of turret for my tank type on(shield tank, blasters use WAY too much PG to fit a decent tank alongside the requisite coolants/damage mods), and charge the field so I get ripped in half in 12 seconds(skewing my numbers a bit high here). Or I use missiles, then I get ripped apart in 12 seconds, and laughed at.

or, I sit on a mountain, provide fire support where it is needed(like say onto that enemy tank, who, no matter what gun I'm using will outright murder me in every fight unless I get the drop on him, and he's a poorly fit, crappy driver, or I have significant range on my side) and have the height to revoke enemy air superiority.

Different tools for different uses. Shield tanks are very good for railgun usage as none of their tank mods are useful for a fight, and their lows can be left open via using the "efficient" models to stack mods for heavy burst damage over a decent period of time.

Railguns, thanks to their low track speed and massive range demand to be used from significant range and height as to ensure maximum battlefield control, anything less is pure folly.

so, we have a tank that is very poorly tanked, and hits like a truck. guess how you beat it? hit it once or twice(or use your own and hit him twice before he can even move and he's dead) so it has to hide to regen the 2/3 of it's shield you just took out for the next few minutes. when it comes out again, you hit it again. he'll move, then you take advantage of the time he's not shooting to push. or you keep hounding them until they recall or are killed.

Sorry that I'm not a battlefield derp who'll charge into suicide so you can have the free points you seem to want

Not quite that simple, my rail can take an ass wooping, and still hand out nice damage. The mistake people make is slow atacks from obvious places, knowing that I'm gunna let you hit me until my HP is between 1/4 and 1/2, then roll back rep, rinse repeat.
There are ways, but only a few players I've been against have been inventive. Also supression is a bastard for tanks, I know people love their 150WP prize, but a lot of the time they lose track of the game trying to get it.

yeah, I should take my tank, put the worst kind of turret for my tank type on(shield tank, blasters use WAY too much PG to fit a decent tank alongside the requisite coolants/damage mods), and charge the field so I get ripped in half in 12 seconds(skewing my numbers a bit high here). Or I use missiles, then I get ripped apart in 12 seconds, and laughed at.

or, I sit on a mountain, provide fire support where it is needed(like say onto that enemy tank, who, no matter what gun I'm using will outright murder me in every fight unless I get the drop on him, and he's a poorly fit, crappy driver, or I have significant range on my side) and have the height to revoke enemy air superiority.

Different tools for different uses. Shield tanks are very good for railgun usage as none of their tank mods are useful for a fight, and their lows can be left open via using the "efficient" models to stack mods for heavy burst damage over a decent period of time.

Railguns, thanks to their low track speed and massive range demand to be used from significant range and height as to ensure maximum battlefield control, anything less is pure folly.

so, we have a tank that is very poorly tanked, and hits like a truck. guess how you beat it? hit it once or twice(or use your own and hit him twice before he can even move and he's dead) so it has to hide to regen the 2/3 of it's shield you just took out for the next few minutes. when it comes out again, you hit it again. he'll move, then you take advantage of the time he's not shooting to push. or you keep hounding them until they recall or are killed.

Sorry that I'm not a battlefield derp who'll charge into suicide so you can have the free points you seem to want

(assuming your a lady) I wanna have sex with you. I don't even care that you're a money *****, I just want to **** that amazing mouth of yours

Wow what a lame thread. Im a rail tanker and fg sniper.
You complain about rong range weapon (rail)that is suposed to fire from safe place?
What it should be? MAYBE i should drive 50m next to point so you can swarm me, thanks.

But why you complain? You wont kill much infantry bec RENDERING. You can shoot enemy vehicles...but what? You wont destroy enemy hav bec he will drive back in speed of light. Its only good for kill other rail snipers, take down cooldown havs (or these under fire) or make them flee.

FG. I dont know for sure but ccp will make rooftop unplacable...you cant get on them.

Do you understand that you're comparing a "tank" to a "turret"? Can't you guys see there is something wrong with that?

It's a "vehicle", not an "installation"... Your use of a tank is to sit behind a redline shooting stuff... This game is not "point Blank", for the love of God...

...ok listen, you people win. It's impossible to have a dialogue when you can't (or don't want to) see how much this is broken and why this should not be in a game in first place. I give up.

Only one more thing to say:

Or I'm the best tanker ever, because I can leave the redline with a railgun Gunnlogi and survive, since you're saying it's such a crazy thing to do...

Or you're just hiding behind a wall of lies.

Since there is no way I'm such a good tanker, my bet is on the second one.

And this is the last thing I have to say to people defending redline tanks.

you do shields and survive? interesting..

I leave the redline in my rail tanks all the time, my aim is pretty dang good these days. There is only actually 1 map that I redline from, a tank using a high cliff, and range is not a broken mechanic, it is a tactic. Don't like it, learn how to kill him. Theres a way on all maps.

I don't always...

But that actually makes me better and better.

It's not easy to forge snipe high up in a tower. You're aiming at a pixel.
High above is the best way to forge a tank, when they run you can still hit them. Good tanks don't go down quickly, even with a proto forge.

It's not easy to forge snipe high up in a tower. You're aiming at a pixel.
High above is the best way to forge a tank, when they run you can still hit them. Good tanks don't go down quickly, even with a proto forge.