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Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
382
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:39:00 -
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-Mountain railgunner:
"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"
Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.
Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.
I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.
-Tower Forgegunner:
"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"
You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...
...and you whine about it!
...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!
Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety! The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw
And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get! More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.
-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.
This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.
CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are. |
chase rowland
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
1
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:45:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:- Mountain railgunner: "I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it" Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match. Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon. I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums. - Tower Forgegunner: "I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!" You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off... ...and you whine about it! ...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!! Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety! The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fwAnd some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get! More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind. -Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history. This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time. CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are. ^ this. i support this. thank god for people like you on the forums fighting for the few tankers left. |
Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
1574
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:48:00 -
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There's a lot of QQ here. But it's not your typical QQ, and it's really rather a QQ about others' QQ.
So +1 |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
383
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:50:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:There's a lot of QQ here. But it's not your typical QQ, and it's really rather a QQ about others' QQ.
So +1
lol thank you. |
daishi mk03
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
229
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:52:00 -
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Did I rail you from my redline? |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
537
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Posted - 2013.09.23 13:59:00 -
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whoa whoa whoa hold on there, us heavies complaining about our FG? since when?
i've seen FG nerf threads but a thread about FG being UP??
i want what you're smoking there lol |
Beck Weathers
High-Damage
118
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:01:00 -
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+1 i hate tower forge gunners, I refuse to have to specinto a sniper then switch to that sniper fit mid battle, just to plip away at a heavys huge EHP |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
1250
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:02:00 -
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I am a forge gunner.
Towers are overpowered
Stay away from my forge gun
(fyi i dont towere snipe) |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
388
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:06:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:whoa whoa whoa hold on there, us heavies complaining about our FG? since when? i've seen FG nerf threads but a thread about FG being UP?? i want what you're smoking there lol
Forge Gun buff requests are probably trolling threads and I saw just one of them time ago.
Forge Gunners frequently ask for Tank nerfs. Some of them actually do whine about their FG not being able to solo a tank, which is absolutely false. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
388
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:08:00 -
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ChromeBreaker wrote:I am a forge gunner.
Towers are overpowered
Stay away from my forge gun
(fyi i dont towere snipe)
If you don't tower snipe I've no problems with you, bud. |
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Chances Ghost
D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine
1018
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:13:00 -
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redline rail tanks cant see much... soooo they arnt particularly dealy to anything besides tanks who wander around like they are immune to gunfire... wich means if the railtank diddnt get them soemthing else would of.
soooo take mountain rail tanks off this list of gripes? |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
218
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:14:00 -
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While I kind of share the same sentiment... aren't snipers in the same category? It's a playstyle which takes very little risk for decent rewards, while also being incredibly boring to play.
Most people would probably rather watch paint dry than sit in the redline or on top of a tower all day, but then there are those who really can't get fun out of the game doing anything that requires a modicum of spatial awareness.
Well... They won't ever get my respect, but the game designer in me also wants to say that it's not a bad idea to give those people something fun to do. While it's frustrating to deal with, in turn we "others" get to enjoy entertaining threads like this, sharing our disdain in solidarity. |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
537
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:25:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:whoa whoa whoa hold on there, us heavies complaining about our FG? since when? i've seen FG nerf threads but a thread about FG being UP?? i want what you're smoking there lol Forge Gun buff requests are probably trolling threads and I saw just one of them time ago. Forge Gunners frequently ask for Tank nerfs. Some of them actually do whine about their FG not being able to solo a tank, which is absolutely false.
lol thats a first for me, i play with a FG as well and i don't complain about me not being able to solo a tank.
i think those heavy users are just scrubs. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
389
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:25:00 -
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Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:While I kind of share the same sentiment... aren't snipers in the same category? It's a playstyle which takes very little risk for decent rewards, while also being incredibly boring to play. Most people would probably rather watch paint dry than sit in the redline or on top of a tower all day, but then there are those who really can't get fun out of the game doing anything that requires a modicum of spatial awareness. Well... They won't ever get my respect, but the game designer in me also wants to say that it's not a bad idea to give those people something fun to do. While it's frustrating to deal with, in turn we "others" get to enjoy entertaining threads like this, sharing our disdain in solidarity.
I understand your point of view, but I wouldn't put snipers in the same category.
Snipers can only kill infantry, though, and they are easy to snipe back once you spot them. They can't move while aiming and, unless they're sniping in a heavy suit, one single headshot is more than enough to kill a proto sniper with armor plates.
If one headshot with a Charge sniper (dedicated sniper with proficiency and damage mods) is not enough to OHK a heavy sniper, 2 kaalakiota headshots (when the enemy is not moving you can easily land 2 headhots with a tac sniper) sure can.
Snipers can be really annoying, but nothing prevents me from flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD
949
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:28:00 -
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I'm not fond of redline snipers, but i save my real hatred for the redline. Tough problem to solve though.
For tower snipers, i often find myself wishing we could shoot while falling from the MCC. It wouldn't solve the problem but it would be hella fun. Other thing that comes to mind is fighters - i'm guessing that once we have fighters tower tops will be devoid of life. |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
537
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:29:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:
If one headshot with a Charge sniper (dedicated sniper with proficiency and damage mods) is not enough to OHK a heavy sniper, 2 kaalakiota headshots (when the enemy is not moving you can easily land 2 headhots with a tac sniper) sure can.
Snipers can be really annoying, but nothing prevents me from flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back.
man i hate those snipers who carry the kaalakiota SR. but then i just switch to my heavy sniper and find those guys, i once hunted down a sniper so many times in one game that he switch back to militia SR after losing too many of his officer weapon
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Sgt Buttscratch
SLAPHAPPY BANDITS
799
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:41:00 -
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SO let me get this straight, If I rail an enemy tank that is working hard to help his team in closer combat, this is me saying I have a weak tank, but I'll cheap shot other tanks, OR is this a tank with a powerful long range weapon using range, to supress and stop other tanks from killing my team?
CCP like people using the height advantages on this game, and a forge gunner a top a tower is not invincible, he is a sniper target, if your teams snipers cant supress or kill him, to bad, better luck next time.
Also rail tanks can shoot forgers off them towers, its a matter of knowing how.
So to generalize the OP, anything that uses range or tactical postioning should be ashamed of themselves. anyhting that use its abilities.... By the same whacked out logic: AR's you should be ashamed of using automatic weapons, try being a man and pull the trigger every shot. Mass drivers, quit relying on explosions your cowards Snipers, how about you come into submachine gun range. Knova Knifers, try that from 50m Tankers, how about you get out and try fight me. Grenades, how about you don't explode.
etc etc etc |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
390
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:46:00 -
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Chances Ghost wrote:redline rail tanks cant see much... soooo they arnt particularly dealy to anything besides tanks who wander around like they are immune to gunfire... wich means if the railtank diddnt get them soemthing else would of.
soooo take mountain rail tanks off this list of gripes?
Tanks don't need to "wander around like they are immune to gunfire" to be r*ped by a railgun.
Yesterday I got my longest kill of all times. Yes, pure luck, I know, but still I managed to kill a Dropship passenger (I was just aiming at the dropship) from 498m away, while I was under one of those large buildings on both sides of the bridge in Spine Crescent.
soooo no. |
Csikszent Mihalyi
DUST University Ivy League
218
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:46:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:While I kind of share the same sentiment... aren't snipers in the same category? It's a playstyle which takes very little risk for decent rewards, while also being incredibly boring to play. Most people would probably rather watch paint dry than sit in the redline or on top of a tower all day, but then there are those who really can't get fun out of the game doing anything that requires a modicum of spatial awareness. Well... They won't ever get my respect, but the game designer in me also wants to say that it's not a bad idea to give those people something fun to do. While it's frustrating to deal with, in turn we "others" get to enjoy entertaining threads like this, sharing our disdain in solidarity. I understand your point of view, but I wouldn't put snipers in the same category. Snipers can only kill infantry, though, and they are easy to snipe back once you spot them. They can't move while aiming and, unless they're sniping in a heavy suit, one single headshot is more than enough to kill a proto sniper with armor plates. If one headshot with a Charge sniper (dedicated sniper with proficiency and damage mods) is not enough to OHK a heavy sniper, 2 kaalakiota headshots (when the enemy is not moving you can easily land 2 headhots with a tac sniper) sure can. Snipers can be really annoying, but nothing prevents me from flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back.
True. On the other hand, snipers can be a lot more concealed (which effectively stops me from "flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back"), whereas with redline tanks and tower forges, you at least know what's up usually.
Not that it helps much to know. :) Just saying. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
390
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:51:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:SO let me get this straight, If I rail an enemy tank that is working hard to help his team in closer combat, this is me saying I have a weak tank, but I'll cheap shot other tanks, OR is this a tank with a powerful long range weapon using range, to supress and stop other tanks from killing my team?
CCP like people using the height advantages on this game, and a forge gunner a top a tower is not invincible, he is a sniper target, if your teams snipers cant supress or kill him, to bad, better luck next time.
Also rail tanks can shoot forgers off them towers, its a matter of knowing how.
So to generalize the OP, anything that uses range or tactical postioning should be ashamed of themselves. By the same whacked out logic: AR's you should be ashamed of using automatic weapons, try being a man and pull the trigger every shot. Mass drivers, quit relying on explosions your cowards Snipers, how about you come into submachine gun range. Knova Knifers, try that from 50m Tankers, how about you get out and try fight me. Grenades, how about you don't explode.
etc etc etc
hahahahah "tactical"! You're actually defending such a broken mechanic as redline sniping! I've no arguments against such awesomeness, you win.
When did I whine about anything of those things? Your "generalization" is the most stupid I've ever seen.
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Sgt Buttscratch
SLAPHAPPY BANDITS
800
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:54:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:SO let me get this straight, If I rail an enemy tank that is working hard to help his team in closer combat, this is me saying I have a weak tank, but I'll cheap shot other tanks, OR is this a tank with a powerful long range weapon using range, to supress and stop other tanks from killing my team?
CCP like people using the height advantages on this game, and a forge gunner a top a tower is not invincible, he is a sniper target, if your teams snipers cant supress or kill him, to bad, better luck next time.
Also rail tanks can shoot forgers off them towers, its a matter of knowing how.
So to generalize the OP, anything that uses range or tactical postioning should be ashamed of themselves. By the same whacked out logic: AR's you should be ashamed of using automatic weapons, try being a man and pull the trigger every shot. Mass drivers, quit relying on explosions your cowards Snipers, how about you come into submachine gun range. Knova Knifers, try that from 50m Tankers, how about you get out and try fight me. Grenades, how about you don't explode.
etc etc etc hahahahah "tactical"! You're actually defending such a broken mechanic as redline sniping! I've no arguments against such awesomeness, you win. When did I whine about anything of those things? Your "generalization" is the most stupid I've ever seen.
As is the how dare you use your long range weapons at long range rant on post#1 |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
390
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:55:00 -
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Chibi Andy wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:
If one headshot with a Charge sniper (dedicated sniper with proficiency and damage mods) is not enough to OHK a heavy sniper, 2 kaalakiota headshots (when the enemy is not moving you can easily land 2 headhots with a tac sniper) sure can.
Snipers can be really annoying, but nothing prevents me from flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back.
man i hate those snipers who carry the kaalakiota SR. but then i just switch to my heavy sniper and find those guys, i once hunted down a sniper so many times in one game that he switch back to militia SR after losing too many of his officer weapon
Was he a Thaler?
omg he lost several Thales in the same match?
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Sgt Buttscratch
SLAPHAPPY BANDITS
802
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Posted - 2013.09.23 14:59:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:
If one headshot with a Charge sniper (dedicated sniper with proficiency and damage mods) is not enough to OHK a heavy sniper, 2 kaalakiota headshots (when the enemy is not moving you can easily land 2 headhots with a tac sniper) sure can.
Snipers can be really annoying, but nothing prevents me from flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back.
man i hate those snipers who carry the kaalakiota SR. but then i just switch to my heavy sniper and find those guys, i once hunted down a sniper so many times in one game that he switch back to militia SR after losing too many of his officer weapon Was he a Thaler? omg he lost several Thales in the same match?
I love taking someones Thales, few minutes later you'll see their name on kill feed with an ADV SR, funny stuff.
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Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
391
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:02:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:
As is the how dare you use your long range weapons at long range rant on post#1
Long range doesn't mean "camping a mountain in the redline or the highest tower in the map".
Did I say anything against normal snipers?
Did I say anything against any other weapon used at its ideal range?
Did I say anything against Forge gunners on a "normal" building which can be reached without a dropship?
Did I say anything against a railgunner simply keeping the distance without exploiting a mountain in his redline to take cover after against anything?
Read again. |
Crash Monster
Snipers Anonymous
1373
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:03:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:As is the how dare you use your long range weapons at long range rant on post#1
As someone who likes to think he can read I'd say the post was not about the distance but more so the placement and cowardly behavior. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
391
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:03:00 -
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Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:
If one headshot with a Charge sniper (dedicated sniper with proficiency and damage mods) is not enough to OHK a heavy sniper, 2 kaalakiota headshots (when the enemy is not moving you can easily land 2 headhots with a tac sniper) sure can.
Snipers can be really annoying, but nothing prevents me from flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back.
man i hate those snipers who carry the kaalakiota SR. but then i just switch to my heavy sniper and find those guys, i once hunted down a sniper so many times in one game that he switch back to militia SR after losing too many of his officer weapon Was he a Thaler? omg he lost several Thales in the same match? I love taking someones Thales, few minutes later you'll see their name on kill feed with an ADV SR, funny stuff.
lol the only time I killed a Thaler he left the match. Even funnier. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
391
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:06:00 -
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Crash Monster wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:As is the how dare you use your long range weapons at long range rant on post#1 As someone who likes to think he can read I'd say the post was not about the distance but more so the placement and cowardly behavior.
omg thank you, that's exactly what I was trying to explain... |
Chibi Andy
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
539
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:13:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Sgt Buttscratch wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:Chibi Andy wrote:Keri Starlight wrote:
If one headshot with a Charge sniper (dedicated sniper with proficiency and damage mods) is not enough to OHK a heavy sniper, 2 kaalakiota headshots (when the enemy is not moving you can easily land 2 headhots with a tac sniper) sure can.
Snipers can be really annoying, but nothing prevents me from flying my dropship to them or just snipe them back.
man i hate those snipers who carry the kaalakiota SR. but then i just switch to my heavy sniper and find those guys, i once hunted down a sniper so many times in one game that he switch back to militia SR after losing too many of his officer weapon Was he a Thaler? omg he lost several Thales in the same match? I love taking someones Thales, few minutes later you'll see their name on kill feed with an ADV SR, funny stuff. lol the only time I killed a Thaler he left the match. Even funnier.
trying to find a thaler is even more of a b-i-t-c-h
they love to use the terrain bug where you see them but when you shoot at them they take no dmg. but the satisfaction you get when you know you made them lose an officer weapon is priceless |
Monkey MAC
killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance
647
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:14:00 -
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Would likd to point out they are already nerfing rooftops!
However rail turrets are designed for long range, but high walls on the new sockets counter this! In addition artillery turrets are planned for NLOS firing of weaponry! |
Commander Tzu
L.O.T.I.S.
8
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Posted - 2013.09.23 15:23:00 -
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I use a railgun sniper, I really love it. I don't really stay on the redline (unless my infantry gets pushed back to the redline) but I try to stay as far away from combat as I can, railguns' main advantage is range of course. The thing is though, with the render issues, railgun sniper tanks are actually easy to take out right now because swarms and lock on and fire from outside their render distance and so can FGs (well, not lock on anyway) so their missiles/projectile is totally invisible just like their suit. I just want to point out your rant was hilarious, even if uniformed, and made me lol so you get my like. BTW, even blaster and missile tanks are supposed to stay as far from enemy infantry as possible so they really shouldn't be wading into an enemy held objective infested with AV. |
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