I use a railgun sniper, I really love it. I don't really stay on the redline (unless my infantry gets pushed back to the redline) but I try to stay as far away from combat as I can, railguns' main advantage is range of course. The thing is though, with the render issues, railgun sniper tanks are actually easy to take out right now because swarms and lock on and fire from outside their render distance and so can FGs (well, not lock on anyway) so their missiles/projectile is totally invisible just like their suit. I just want to point out your rant was hilarious, even if uniformed, and made me lol so you get my like. BTW, even blaster and missile tanks are supposed to stay as far from enemy infantry as possible so they really shouldn't be wading into an enemy held objective infested with AV.

-Mountain railgunner:
You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

I'm a tanker, I know of the render issue, I know of the Swarm launchers and I know how fragile tanks are.

You said you're not redlining (of course, unless your team gets actually redlined, which is perfectly natural) and that's the same for me. I keep my distance, but I'm mobile and I don't use a hill which cannot be reached by enemy vehicles and infantry to retreat as soon as I take damage.

How is my thread uninformed?

If I'm not on the tower then the enemy team is likely to, better me for the sake of my team then them. If you don't want to deal with it then stay out of my limited 300 meter range or die or better yet, get a decent sniper. Get four dropships since I can't kill all of them before you get up there. Hell if you squish me with one, I'll send you mail telling you that was absolutely hilarious.

The rail tankers on hills is a problem and they are bad and should feel bad.

Forge gunners on towers is actually less of a problem and they are doing what they are supposed to be doing. People always forget the forge gun is not anti-vehicle it's anti-material.

Uninformed because it's highly opinionated.

That logic right there makes every post uninformed. Thanks for coming out Mr. Uninformed.

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

whoa whoa whoa hold on there, us heavies complaining about our FG? since when?

i've seen FG nerf threads but a thread about FG being UP??

i want what you're smoking there lol

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

reasonable, rational, grammatically proficent, hard to kill in game and lookin fine while at it in your caldari suit +1 when we gonna squad up again?

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

Hahaha thanks bud, actually English is not my first language, so it took a noticeable amount of time for me to type all that stuff.

I would squad up with you anytime, if you see me online then I'm ready to go.

Time well spent, I'm getting on in the next 10-20 minutes. Ill find you in our chat room o7

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

OP you are absolutely right and awesome quick question though is it by the same definition cowardly to retreat to the redline for a short period during a match or use the redline to recall? either way +1 dude

This is for all the forge gunners camping on buildings

As a Heavy who stays on the ground, I cannot condone tower camping with a FG. It is cowardly and it throws off the balance of the game.

Redline Sniper tanks are in the same club.

-1 to tower camping FG Heavies

-1 to redline railtanks

+1 to OP.

As a side note, those Ferrari Armor Tanks...

OP you are absolutely right and awesome quick question though is it by the same definition cowardly to retreat to the redline for a short period during a match or use the redline to recall? either way +1 dude

This is for all the forge gunners camping on buildings

-Mountain railgunner:

"I'm forced to sit on a mountain in my redline because my tank is crap and CCP refuses to buff it"

Well, you're the worst hypocrite ever, you have no problems killing other tankers working their big metal asses hard to help their team, going into the battlefield and living on the edge every single match.

Those people are vehicle operators like you, with the same problems, but unlike you they have the guts to bring their crap to the objective and they keep doing their job, no matter how much CCP nerfs their vehicles! And their efforts get randomly and suddenly annihilated (along their vehicles) by your particle cannon.

I'm ashamed to share the same category (Tanker) with you. You don't deserved to be called "Tanker", because as soon as you quit driving and supporting you stop being a "Tanker". The appropriate name for you is something that will have me banned for writing it on the forums.

-Tower Forgegunner:

"I have it hard, good tankers can survive to my Ishukone forge gun if they run away. And some dropsuits can survive up to 3 blast damage!"

You have a portable railgun cannon with damage mods and proficiency, 1,875 second charge time, 4 clip size, 2300 raw damage per shot with 2 dmg mods and proficiency (actually outdamages a prototype railgun!!!), no sway, no projectile fall off, no damage fall off...

...and you whine about it!

...AND YOU'RE ON A FRIGGIN' TOWER!!!

Infantry can't shoot back, tanks can't shoot back, not only because of the glitched render distance, but because the turret can't tilt that much. You have total control of the map, spamming your crazy weapon like a God's finger from above, killing anything, from infantry to vehicles and installations... and in total safety!
The only way to kill you is to snipe you off (which is almost impossible as long as you can take cover and you can laugh to the sniper and ignore him unless he has a Thale) or flying a dropship to your place, which can be destroyed in no time by yourself. Perfect example of this situation in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sktAvbnHvE4&feature=c4-overview&list=UUJe8E36GLsS5__3B3SYC0fw

And some of you justify yourselves because you're "Heavies" and heavy suits are underpowered and need all the help they can get!
More hypocrites, you should be ashamed of yourselves, hiding behind your HMG "brothers" or even a ground Forge gunner, nothing to do with your kind.

-Both of you redline railsnipers and camping forgegunners pretend to be enemies, instead you should shake your hands one each other for being the worst (insert correct word here) in this game's history.

This game would be immensely better without both of you, you're ruining other people's in-game experience and infesting the forums at the same time.

CCP won't do anything to stop you, so at least STFU on the forums, because you're ridiculous and rage-inducing for how pathetic you are.

The link doesn't work for me.

As a Heavy who stays on the ground, I cannot condone tower camping with a FG. It is cowardly and it throws off the balance of the game.

Redline Sniper tanks are in the same club.

-1 to tower camping FG Heavies

-1 to redline railtanks

+1 to OP.

As a side note, those Ferrari Armor Tanks...

(assuming your a lady) I wanna have sex with you. I don't even care that you're a money *****, I just want to **** that amazing mouth of yours

I actually am, but you scared the **** out of me

EDIT: I mean a lady, not a money *****!

Tact and grace, my friend, tact and grace.