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KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Void Echo wrote:

lol, their AV wasn't even advanced. do you think everyone has proto AV hello no, everyone is too lazy to do that.

1 tank per team... haha no, if you want infantry only game, go play call of duty and leave us be

NOT EVEYONE IS TOO LAZY TO DO THAT. I have All AV weapons at proto level,and guess what? Tanks CAN get away and CAN survive...And they are a pain to deal with...If a FGunner is NOT in an elevated place,hes useless,since he cant keep shooting the tanks unti l he gets the kill (like in the first map they played...) A swarm launcher specialist NEEDS to be at certain distance exposing himself to enemy infantry,same with AV nades.

Im sorry but its a VERY limited player per map game. 12 on each side?
if one team decides to bing out 3 tanks the amount of AV weaponry needed would be of a MINIMUM of 4 AV specialistsThat will get ravaged by enemy infantry and tanks alike,plus,making taking out so many tanks will be a prriority to the AV specialists while RISKING to loose the game because of inferior OBJECTIVE focused infantry.

So you dont want 1 tank per game? then leave FGs and tanks as they are.

Our friend here who made the video,Pirex was it? Just proof how powerful tanks are....
Turrets were useless vs it, AV was useless vs him and when something HURT him,he was fast enought to get away with impunity...

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Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1391	Posted - 2013.09.18 20:57:00 - [1] - Quote for the 1st time someone actually explains our side of the argument, in a non bias way: Thank you Pyrex
Yokal Bob G.R.A.V.E 282	Posted - 2013.09.18 21:14:00 - [2] - Quote +1 thanks for this Void Thanks to Pyrex for the vid too
ANDRE T3hGIANT TeamPlayers EoN. 1	Posted - 2013.09.18 21:15:00 - [3] - Quote He goes 22-0 vs dedicated anti tank players... and he's new at it. Nerf tanks.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1393	Posted - 2013.09.18 21:17:00 - [4] - Quote ANDRE T3hGIANT wrote: He goes 22-0 vs dedicated anti tank players... and he's new at it. Nerf tanks. if those guys were dedicated AV.... then the people who are 100% av are AV gods
Chances Ghost D3M3NT3D M1NDZ The Umbra Combine 939	Posted - 2013.09.18 21:47:00 - [5] - Quote ANDRE T3hGIANT wrote: He goes 22-0 vs dedicated anti tank players... and he's new at it. Nerf tanks. LOL level 2 granades packed AV and militia swarms is what passes as dedicated anti tank?????? hes also using a blaster tank and blaster mudrugars are the tanks that are doing the best right now. if he straps a rail or missles to the thing he will see why thats the case rather quickly (or rather not see since thats the whole problem) the blaster maddys are doing fine. its the other tanks that are suffering.
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact Cult of War 231	Posted - 2013.09.18 21:59:00 - [6] - Quote someone in his squad is using a 'daemon' shotgun it seems, have not seen one of those in a long time. Kind of jealous always wanted one to add to my BPO collection.
Kane Fyea DUST University Ivy League 1669	Posted - 2013.09.18 22:17:00 - [7] - Quote ANDRE T3hGIANT wrote: He goes 22-0 vs dedicated anti tank players... and he's new at it. Nerf tanks. You have got to be kidding me. Those guys were using either militia or standard SLs. I think I saw one advanced one. None of those guys were dedicated AV.
Our Deepest Regret Algintal Core Gallente Federation 251	Posted - 2013.09.18 22:27:00 - [8] - Quote ANDRE T3hGIANT wrote: He goes 22-0 vs dedicated anti tank players... and he's new at it. Nerf tanks. Err, no? CPOPyrex has been a tank player for ages. This is just the first time he's gone back into tanking in a while. He got 22-0 in that game because they were up against a sh*t squad. Starting at 10:36 he got jacked up. From 6,000 heath to 2,000. If he was so OP why didn't he stand there and take it?
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 2110	Posted - 2013.09.18 22:35:00 - [9] - Quote ANDRE T3hGIANT wrote: He goes 22-0 vs dedicated anti tank players... and he's new at it. Nerf tanks. Admittedly I started a fortnight ago, I got 22-0 more oft than not.... thats because I learnt from the best.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1635	Posted - 2013.09.18 22:52:00 - [10] - Quote i think we all see the problem here... armor reps. that is all, well i did have one more thing to say, with vehicles getting pushed from 1.5 they should atleast change resistance for explosives to give gunnlogi missile tanks a chance to take down armor tanks. as it stands its the norm for armor tanks to recharge their health while taking large missile fire.

Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1395	Posted - 2013.09.18 22:57:00 - [11] - Quote ladwar wrote: i think we all see the problem here... armor reps. that is all, well i did have one more thing to say, with vehicles getting pushed from 1.5 they should atleast change resistance for explosives to give gunnlogi missile tanks a chance to take down armor tanks. as it stands its the norm for armor tanks to recharge their health while taking large missile fire. without the armor reps we have armor tanks wouldn't last 1/10th of the amount of time they survive now. after the prophesized vehicle change hopefully the stats all get fixed but we will have survivability also.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 8615	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:13:00 - [12] - Quote Thank you Pryex for being credible on the subject.
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4589	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:14:00 - [13] - Quote Void Echo wrote: for the 1st time someone actually explains our side of the argument, in a non bias way: Thank you Pyrex What about my Shield tank?
XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4589	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:15:00 - [14] - Quote it stand no chance against a armor tank
Our Deepest Regret Algintal Core Gallente Federation 252	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:31:00 - [15] - Quote XxWarlordxX97 wrote: it stand no chance against a armor tank A Wiley shield tanker running a fit filled with damage boosters and a railgun is a scary prospect for a Maddy out in the open. They'd be popping us left and right if it wasn't for our broken reps.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1635	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:32:00 - [16] - Quote Void Echo wrote: ladwar wrote: i think we all see the problem here... armor reps. that is all, well i did have one more thing to say, with vehicles getting pushed from 1.5 they should atleast change resistance for explosives to give gunnlogi missile tanks a chance to take down armor tanks. as it stands its the norm for armor tanks to recharge their health while taking large missile fire. without the armor reps we have armor tanks wouldn't last 1/10th of the amount of time they survive now. after the prophesized vehicle change hopefully the stats all get fixed but we will have survivability also. face it the reps are the problem. when a light rep does more then what heavy rep should do they are broken. do the math, its true. if armor tank only used one light rep that would be more effective then a shield using a heavy booster. even armor LLAVs have more recovering ability then shield tanks. armor tanks survive 10x worse then what shield tanks can.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1139	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:34:00 - [17] - Quote Void Echo wrote: for the 1st time someone actually explains our side of the argument, in a non bias way: Thank you Pyrex ''Tanks Arent STrong'' ======> Doesnt die a single time even while being shot by a forge gun and a swarm launcher AT THE SAME TIME. In the first video , our friend here calls in his tank and some other player too (2 or 3 tanks maybe?) Each time the poor enemy team would take AV out they would get ravaged by infantry. The numers are WAY too small (12 vs 12? ) To sacrifice 5+ infatry players to try and take down 2 tanks... MLT tanks shouldnt die to 2 forge guns shot. PROTO FG vs MLT tank? SRSLY? He runs around in a 7800 HP tank,with resistance, easily owning people (And his aim sucks) and then says that tanks are not strong. Then says that FG need a nerf while getting hit by swarms and FG alike and he just walks off with his damage resistances and armor regen modules active asit is nothing LOL.... TAnks dont need a buff, they are ok as they are. The only sane thing he said is: ''TANKERS NEVER KNOW WHEN TO GT*O'' Good for him that he knows when to fight and when to leave.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1396	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:37:00 - [18] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Void Echo wrote: for the 1st time someone actually explains our side of the argument, in a non bias way: Thank you Pyrex ''Tanks Arent STrong'' ======> Doesnt die a single time even while being shot by a forge gun and a swarm launcher AT THE SAME TIME. In the first video , our friend here calls in his tank and some other player too (2 or 3 tanks maybe?) Each time the poor enemy team would take AV out they would get ravaged by infantry. The numers are WAY too small (12 vs 12? ) To sacrifice 5+ infatry players to try and take down 2 tanks... MLT tanks shouldnt die to 2 forge guns shot. PROTO FG vs MLT tank? SRSLY? He runs around in a 7800 HP tank,with resistance, easily owning people (And his aim sucks) and then says that tanks are not strong. Then says that FG need a nerf while getting hit by swarms and FG alike and he just walks off with his damage resistances and armor regen modules active asit is nothing LOL.... TAnks dont need a buff, they are ok as they are. The only sane thing he said is: ''TANKERS NEVER KNOW WHEN TO GT*O'' Good for him that he knows when to fight and when to leave. WAnt to BUFF TANKS? NERF FGs? DO IT, but then limit a battle to a MAXIMUM of 1 tank per team. BALANCE.... lol, their AV wasn't even advanced. do you think everyone has proto AV hello no, everyone is too lazy to do that. 1 tank per team... haha no, if you want infantry only game, go play call of duty and leave us be
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1396	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:39:00 - [19] - Quote ladwar wrote: Void Echo wrote: ladwar wrote: i think we all see the problem here... armor reps. that is all, well i did have one more thing to say, with vehicles getting pushed from 1.5 they should atleast change resistance for explosives to give gunnlogi missile tanks a chance to take down armor tanks. as it stands its the norm for armor tanks to recharge their health while taking large missile fire. without the armor reps we have armor tanks wouldn't last 1/10th of the amount of time they survive now. after the prophesized vehicle change hopefully the stats all get fixed but we will have survivability also. face it the reps are the problem. when a light rep does more then what heavy rep should do they are broken. do the math, its true. if armor tank only used one light rep that would be more effective then a shield using a heavy booster. even armor LLAVs have more recovering ability then shield tanks. armor tanks survive 10x worse then what shield tanks can. the reps are a problem, they don't tell how much they rep, they need to be redone so they accurately tell you how much they rep, if you nerf it right now, youl kill tanking all together.
ladwar Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 1636	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:47:00 - [20] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: He runs around in a 7800 HP tank the eHP is around 11,000 before you count reppers, so a 20,000 eHP armor tank. not OP or anything at all. proto SL 6 rounds base fire 6 330damage missiles= 14,300~ abouts and takes i forgot, 12 second about to fire.

XxWarlordxX97 Ancient Exiles 4590	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:49:00 - [21] - Quote Our Deepest Regret wrote: XxWarlordxX97 wrote: it stand no chance against a armor tank A Wiley shield tanker running a fit filled with damage boosters and a railgun is a scary prospect for a Maddy out in the open. They'd be popping us left and right if it wasn't for our broken reps. they still win at Railguns too
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3631	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:50:00 - [22] - Quote Our Deepest Regret wrote: ANDRE T3hGIANT wrote: He goes 22-0 vs dedicated anti tank players... and he's new at it. Nerf tanks. Err, no? CPOPyrex has been a tank player for ages. This is just the first time he's gone back into tanking in a while. He got 22-0 in that game because they were up against a sh*t squad. Starting at 10:36 he got jacked up. From 6,000 heath to 2,000. If he was so OP why didn't he stand there and take it? He should have died from a sneeze. OP vehicles are OP.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1140	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:53:00 - [23] - Quote Void Echo wrote: lol, their AV wasn't even advanced. do you think everyone has proto AV hello no, everyone is too lazy to do that. 1 tank per team... haha no, if you want infantry only game, go play call of duty and leave us be NOT EVEYONE IS TOO LAZY TO DO THAT. I have All AV weapons at proto level,and guess what? Tanks CAN get away and CAN survive...And they are a pain to deal with...If a FGunner is NOT in an elevated place,hes useless,since he cant keep shooting the tanks unti l he gets the kill (like in the first map they played...) A swarm launcher specialist NEEDS to be at certain distance exposing himself to enemy infantry,same with AV nades. Im sorry but its a VERY limited player per map game. 12 on each side? if one team decides to bing out 3 tanks the amount of AV weaponry needed would be of a MINIMUM of 4 AV specialistsThat will get ravaged by enemy infantry and tanks alike,plus,making taking out so many tanks will be a prriority to the AV specialists while RISKING to loose the game because of inferior OBJECTIVE focused infantry. So you dont want 1 tank per game? then leave FGs and tanks as they are. Our friend here who made the video,Pirex was it? Just proof how powerful tanks are.... Turrets were useless vs it, AV was useless vs him and when something HURT him,he was fast enought to get away with impunity...
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1399	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:53:00 - [24] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: Our Deepest Regret wrote: ANDRE T3hGIANT wrote: He goes 22-0 vs dedicated anti tank players... and he's new at it. Nerf tanks. Err, no? CPOPyrex has been a tank player for ages. This is just the first time he's gone back into tanking in a while. He got 22-0 in that game because they were up against a sht squad. Starting at 10:36 he got jacked up. From 6,000 heath to 2,000. If he was so OP why didn't he stand there and take it? He should have died from a sneeze. OP vehicles are OP. infantry is OP, they have 100% influence over what happens to this game and it has ***** everything up.
Our Deepest Regret Algintal Core Gallente Federation 254	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:55:00 - [25] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: ''Tanks Arent STrong'' ======> Doesnt die a single time even while being shot by a forge gun and a swarm launcher AT THE SAME TIME. Didn't die because he backed off whenever they brought out AV, and he had squadmates willing to jump out of the tank to defend it. Quote: In the first video , our friend here calls in his tank and some other player too (2 or 3 tanks maybe?) Each time the poor enemy team would take AV out they would get ravaged by infantry. The numers are WAY too small (12 vs 12? ) To sacrifice 5+ infatry players to try and take down 2 tanks.., MLT tanks shouldnt die to 2 forge guns shot. PROTO FG vs MLT tank? SRSLY? Yeah. Teamwork? People covering each other's backs? It looked so nice. You can't nerf teamwork, Checkmate. He also redacted and said that proto should beat Militia. Don't take it out of context. Quote: He runs around in a 7800 HP tank,with resistance, easily owning people (And his aim sucks) and then says that tanks are not strong. Then says that FG need a nerf while getting hit by swarms and FG alike and he just walks off with his damage resistances and armor regen modules active asit is nothing LOL.... Actually it's 6800 health, 2 hardeners, one pg extender, and a rep with a stage three turret. Very, very, very standard build that gets crushed in no time by good players. And what do you mean by "Getting hit by swarms and a FG like it was nothing"? He had to vamoose every time. He didn't sit and tank it, he retreated and left it to his teammates. This is smart playing. Nerf teamwork. Anyway, He was squad-ing with his corp against some really bad pub players, and he was still taking a hammering. Imagine if those guys had been good? Nerf teamwork. I find it amazing that tank players can watch this video and see a guy barely surviving but doing so thanks to the efforts of his team, but AV players can watch it and somehow see Godzilla rampaging through Tokyo. That is too funny. Quote: WAnt to BUFF TANKS? NERF FGs? DO IT, but then limit a battle to a MAXIMUM of 1 tank per team. BALANCE.... He wasn't calling for a Forge gun nerf. He loves Forge guns. He uses forge Guns. He says flat out how much the game sucked when Tanks were unstoppable. He is however, accurately pointing out the present innate imbalance between Vehicles and AV.
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1399	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:57:00 - [26] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Void Echo wrote: lol, their AV wasn't even advanced. do you think everyone has proto AV hello no, everyone is too lazy to do that. 1 tank per team... haha no, if you want infantry only game, go play call of duty and leave us be NOT EVEYONE IS TOO LAZY TO DO THAT. I have All AV weapons at proto level,and guess what? Tanks CAN get away and CAN survive...And they are a pain to deal with...If a FGunner is NOT in an elevated place,hes useless,since he cant keep shooting the tanks unti l he gets the kill (like in the first map they played...) A swarm launcher specialist NEEDS to be at certain distance exposing himself to enemy infantry,same with AV nades. Im sorry but its a VERY limited player per map game. 12 on each side? if one team decides to bing out 3 tanks the amount of AV weaponry needed would be of a MINIMUM of 4 AV specialistsThat will get ravaged by enemy infantry and tanks alike,plus,making taking out so many tanks will be a prriority to the AV specialists while RISKING to loose the game because of inferior OBJECTIVE focused infantry. So you dont want 1 tank per game? then leave FGs and tanks as they are. Our friend here who made the video,Pirex was it? Just proof how powerful tanks are.... Turrets were useless vs it, AV was useless vs him and when something HURT him,he was fast enought to get away with impunity... lol closed minded ignorant fool... I pity the world for allowing ignorance to thrive.. he could get away because apparently he has intelligence in tanking and knows his own weaknesses, and if you pay attention, none of the enemy's AV was above standard.. on your "AV gets ****** up by infantry" argument, get your damn blues to defend you, that's what you tell us when we go against infantry, take your own advice. its not our fault you suck at what you do (that was to anyone that complains about not being able to solo tankers in game, you just suck because you expect everything handed to you)
noob cavman A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 76	Posted - 2013.09.18 23:59:00 - [27] - Quote Tanks of all shape and fits are still very killable. The best av I saw in the vid was a cbr7 with maybe 1-2 dam mods. Do not forgot he cherry picks the best bits for his vids so in all probability that was one of a few games he did not lose his tank. Tanks are not op you cretins. A Prof 5 proto swarms scrub o/
JUNIOR SENIOR Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1	Posted - 2013.09.19 00:01:00 - [28] - Quote TY Pyrex for proof positive Tanks are OP.
KING CHECKMATE TEAM SATISFACTION 1140	Posted - 2013.09.19 00:01:00 - [29] - Quote Void Echo wrote: lol closed minded ignorant fool... I pity the world for allowing ignorance to thrive.. ==> Yup, you shouldt totally kill yourself. he could get away because apparently he has intelligence in tanking and knows his own weaknesses ==> Yup you should learn from him instead of whining on the forums on daily basis. on your "AV gets ****** up by infantry" argument, get your damn blues to defend you, that's what you tell us when we go against infantry, take your own advice. ==> Even with a tank, if one guy can solo in a tank and do good,so should an infantry be able to solo a tank and do good.You just tooke the most Expensive and HP strong wise side...thats all... @ Void: its not my fault you suck at what you do (that was to anyone that complains about every single AV being able to kill you,saying you need a BUFF and FG need a nerf, you just suck because you expect everything handed to you)
Void Echo Morsus Mihi Aperuitque Imperium 1402	Posted - 2013.09.19 00:05:00 - [30] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Void Echo wrote: lol closed minded ignorant fool... I pity the world for allowing ignorance to thrive.. ==> Yup, you shouldt totally kill yourself. he could get away because apparently he has intelligence in tanking and knows his own weaknesses ==> Yup you should learn from him instead of whining on the forums on daily basis. on your "AV gets ****** up by infantry" argument, get your damn blues to defend you, that's what you tell us when we go against infantry, take your own advice. ==> Even with a tank, if one guy can solo in a tank and do good,so should an infantry be able to solo a tank and do good.You just tooke the most Expensive and HP strong wise side...thats all... @ Void: its not my fault you suck at what you do (that was to anyone that complains about every single AV being able to kill you,saying you need a BUFF and FG need a nerf, you just suck because you expect everything handed to you) lol your calling me bad when your complaining about militia users not being able to solo a standard hull with probably proto modules? no one guy should not be able to solo a tank unless hes very, very good at it. in no other game does a single player ever destroy a big machine controlled by another player. one dropsuit doesn't equal a tank, if that were the case then the heavy suit we have should be able to be fitted with a compressed particle cannon. oh whats that? it cant because its not a vehicle? who knew that



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