your stupid if you have the mindset that vehicles are meant to be **** and this should be mainly or purely an infantry game

Your stupid since you want to turn DUST514 into Twisted meta. ITS A FPS.

First person SHOOTER.not tanker.

SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOTER

actually checkmate, Pyrex is a forger, anyone who watches his videos or knows him in game knows he is a forger

its not 100% shooter you ******... another point, why would they put vehicles in if they wanted it to be about infantry mainly?

NOBODY SAYS IT HAS TO BE ONLY about infantry.

All FPS have a vehicle element. But vehicles, IN FPS GAMES, are support role. Not , LOL me tanker i own all 12 red alone... like you want it to be.

Please comment on my post Void...i wanna hear how you try and say your opinion has more merit then someone elses, given the same context.

on other FPS do you put personal investment into vehicles? in other games do you pay for vehicles with your own ingame currency?

in this game, do you see vehicles being regenerated at random in the same place over and over again, in this game does pilot not suffer from the destruction of vehicles?

so the **** what if in other games they have support vehicles, I believe that the dropship counts as the support vehicle here.

on other FPS do you survive 2+ AV weaponry? in other games are you able to play as a tanker and NOT DIE?

in this game, do you see a single RPG take down your tank?

'' in this game does pilot not suffer from the destruction of vehicles?'' = Well yeah. Everybody hates to die and loose money. so?

You talk like if getting ALL PROTO AV and getting killed 5+ times for hunting TAnks and somettimes not even killing them is not investment at all.
I CANNOT REASON with you, you dont EVER put in someone elses shoes. You just think tank,tank,tank...
I created and played as a 8 mil tanker for a whole month,just to see what it was all about. I would really LOVE to see a vid of you killing a good tank/tanker ALONE.

seriously? I do it all the ******* time, ask other tankers how many times iv destroyed other tanks and been destroyed by them, and I do it all nearly solo, I never ask for help from AV unless its in a PC match, everywhere else, im either running solo or going with other tankers, and in every battle I destroy tanks alone..
New Flash.Then they are not good tanks/tankers. EASY.

OR he was unlucky and got AV naded by someone else and you thought (and i wouldnt be surprised) that you are allmighty there by your proto AV 1HKO's tanks

yes I think that tanks should be taken seriously because I am bored of the same old damn dull **** I get from every FPS out there.
This game will not shift and change just because 1 close minded player is bored. get over yourself.

also, in other games, no you don't get to play as a tanker, you don't get your own personal vehicle to invest in and upgrade with your own ****.
Might not be personal,but you CAN upgrade tanks with a lot of stuff (like BF3) and yes,you CAN BE A TANKER as a profesion.

Stop arguing with Checkmate, he is just a scrub who wants others to feel as impotent as he does.

He has no concepts of balance, and especially no idea of what is involved in tanking. Just let him be his scrubby self, and pretend he doesn't exist.

He has no value, and his opinions are even dumber than he is.

my opinion matters because I am a ******* tanker. how would you like your **** getting constantly ****** over without your consent.

I have skilled into both tanks and AV, my opinion has much more merit than some ignorant biased shithead who doesn't want Dust to be Dust

I think the same of you :3
How nice.

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Anyways echo. im trying to reason here wih you but you are not understanding me.

Tanks are not OP. AV is not OP.
If tanks get buff, there SHOULD be a limitation of the amound of tanks deployed in a 12 vs 12 battle...

Stop arguing with Checkmate, he is just a scrub who wants others to feel as impotent as he does.

He has no concepts of balance, and especially no idea of what is involved in tanking. Just let him be his scrubby self, and pretend he doesn't exist.

He has no value, and his opinions are even dumber than he is.

So...now you are assuming things? based on what?

No, I don't have 15 mil SP invested into tanks. Do you?

I went pure Forge gun after the HMG was decided by CCP to become a **** weapon. And i know for a fact, that against say...Ted Nugget, after 6 Forge gun shots against his Madruger, from an Ishukone Assault Forge gun with Prof 5 skill, he was still chugging along with a little under half HP out of my line of sight.

6 Forge hits, with a proto assault FG, with prof 5, with two complex damage mods...can't kill him because he knows how to tank, and knows when he needs to retreat. Now this was DURING his self judged execution of half a dozen blueberries. He was killing ****, while taking fire from a single Proto AVer, getting kills and still managed to easily get away.

We all know that until you have the SP to properly fit a tank, its a water balloon ready to pop.

We all ALSO know that a properly fitted tank is a damn god on the battlefield.

Why can't you admit that? The entire vehicle and AV **** needs a rebalancing, and that will come eventually.

What makes me assume you aren't a high SP tanker, or at least, not a pro...is your complete "ignorance" of both sides of the coin, or your simple refusal to admit that there's a problem on both ends of the Rock/Paper system.

Either or, after 6 months you are simply sounding like a douche who cares for nothing but the resurrection of the godmode that was tanks in the past, with no argument on how to actually balance the two to be in sync.

It's rock/paper/scissors. Even tanks HAVE to have a weakness in this game, or else wtf is the point of rock/paper/scissors?

It's rock/paper/scissors. Even tanks HAVE to have a weakness in this game, or else wtf is the point of rock/paper/scissors?

everything you know about tanks is wrong, dead wrong, try skilling into them and run them yourself (NO CORP FRIENDS HELPING YOU) and tell me that its easy.

tanks are not OP, av is not UP. if there would be a limitation on vehicles, CCP would kill its pilot community here, this is not call of duty.

yeah I do have 15 mill invested in tanks. since when have I denied that there is a problem with the balance?

wow... I hate bringing up my popularity status on the forums and hate bragging about anything but seriously.. do you know who I am?

if you knew who I am, then you wouldn't be asking me those questions.

im the loudest vehicle advocate of the community (I probably have more haters than anyone in the game). and anyone who knows of me knows that I despise infantry for the state of the game, and my fellow tankers know exactly what I want out of tanks, and its not godmode

This is your problem, you expect to run around solo with no team help and still not get killed lol
yeah....no, your dead wrong on that

For a tank to survive against proto av as it stands, more so if theres more than one of them, you pretty much need a good team behind you, whether they randoms or corp mates, either that or spend the match doing laps around the map.
in order for you to make a profit on tanking in general, you need to be one of the best at it, in the situation, if your just average, your nothing. that's the problem

even the dude in the video gets it, like he said, have a look who you got on your team, have a look whos on the opposite and then call your tank in or not based on that.....
that's fine and all, when your teamed up with competent people who will actually pay attention, listen and work for the team's victory... but no, most of the games I get in im always on the team with the stupid ass bluetards

everything you know about tanks is wrong, dead wrong, try skilling into them and run them yourself (NO CORP FRIENDS HELPING YOU) and tell me that its easy.

-You might be right, even with a 8mil + tanker accaunt i Might be wrong, no doubt on that one. Everybody makes mistakes.
-You are asking me to tank SOLO. So you are implying you want to be able to TANK solo and have great matches? Again, and as some tanker was pinpointing before, TEAMWORK is the key. I can DO REALLY well with a tank,even if im a sucky tanker,because i use teamwork, the concept of this game is teamwork, and even as atanker if you are just playing solo and trying to take on another team alone, you will ,and deserve to die.

tanks are not OP, av is not UP.
Agreed.

if there would be a limitation on vehicles, CCP would kill its pilot community here, this is not call of duty.
AGAIN WITH CALL OF DUTY, everytime you say that i convince myself a little more that you are hmhm.. SLOW minded.
OF COURSE THERE SHOULD BE A LIMITATION on vehicles. If vehicles get buffed and no limitations would exist this would be 12 tanks vs 12 tanks... i know THATS what you want,not only its stupid,but dont forget this is a FPS, and Infantry will and SHOULD always be present.

Yea, I've seen you complain consistently on the forums...as well as notice your total SP rising consistently. So you clearly are playing this game you hate so much.

So, why is it that you "don't have a problem with balance", yet at every turn...complain about the balance between tanks and AV. Please link a post where you say "A properly fitted tank can do wonders on a battlefield". I couldn't find one.

The only thing i ever see from you is that tanks are so god damn weak, that ANY solo AVer can pop them in a matter of seconds.

Pray tell me where you talk about ACTUAL balance between AV and tanks, instead of simply buffing tanks to where it takes at least 3 AV to destroy, which you have stated SHOULD be the case in MANY posts.

Don't you have some Dev response threads to say they should be developing **** better?

You have such a high concept of balancing, that you get angry at CCP for holding back a rework of vehicles to make a better balancing patch.

Aren't you satisfied with knowing you're a hypocrite, instead of making posts that explain it so vividly?

But then again, anyone else having an opinion contrary to yours is a mistake in itself.

I love how checkmate thinks there would be 12 v 12 tanks, he has seemingly forgotten about the vehicle limit.

Oh wait, he has never been tanking.

I love how the ret@rded General says im to be ignored yet reads and enjoys my every post.
Like i give a f*** what you think. Im waiting for Void to reply.Even if i think hes demented and WRONG, he defends what he sees correct,gives input and that makes him valuable to the community.
People thinking they are the smartass hot internet lol troll winners , are just sad.

Bro, you are sad

....what? are you actually implying that I am valuable to the community because I defend my views?

that could be why I have a lot of haters..

try skilling into them and run them yourself (NO CORP FRIENDS HELPING YOU) and tell me that its easy.
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This is your problem, you expect to run around solo with no team help and still not get killed lol